Comfirmation bias at a level of religious fervor is never good for rational, unbiased thinking.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT8| No, Donald. You don't.
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Comfirmation bias at a level of religious fervor is never good for rational, unbiased thinking.
User 463088
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Also, let's just acknowledge how Trump COULD have made himself look good with the Purple Heart thing:
"Folks. There's a man here. A Veteran. A hero. We love our Veterans. Don't we? Love our Veterans. And he offered me his Purple Heart. Offered it to me. Said I could have it. Because this is a movement, folks. A movement. And he wanted me to have it. And I said, I can't take it. I didn't earn that. I can't take it. But it's great, folks. It's great. Believe me. It's beautiful. And I thank him. We love our Veterans."
AND YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT. And you still get to pretend you're important for someone offering you their medal.
"Folks. There's a man here. A Veteran. A hero. We love our Veterans. Don't we? Love our Veterans. And he offered me his Purple Heart. Offered it to me. Said I could have it. Because this is a movement, folks. A movement. And he wanted me to have it. And I said, I can't take it. I didn't earn that. I can't take it. But it's great, folks. It's great. Believe me. It's beautiful. And I thank him. We love our Veterans."
AND YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT. And you still get to pretend you're important for someone offering you their medal.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
It's gotta be difficult to come up with a good answer that:
1.) That people will understand given most people don't even know what an email server is.
2.) That people will understand given that the email policy at the time was a joke.
3.) That people will understand given that confidential information classification is a joke among agencies.
Oh, and you have to keep people's attention too.
It's just so much to try to boil down. Then you are up against the clearly partisan FBI Statement.
Fragamemnon
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I get (but don't agree) where he's coming from ideologically, but vaccine dodgers are freeloading on the herd immunity from vaccine users to keep them safe. Doesn't modern libertarian thought make exceptions to externalities like that?
Ignatz Mouse
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I hadn't noticed that conservative columnist Jennifer Rubin came out against Trump: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...epublican-convention-2016-20160718-story.html
Brawndo Addict
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I was also thinking more 'boots on the ground' type of stuff with paid campaign staff and all the corresponding efforts that go alongside that. Start building those databases and volunteer networks.
User 463088
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You ignore the FBI completely. Admit having the server was a mistake. Stand by the fact that you didn't knowingly (and that's the important word) send classified information. Mention that you disagree with the classification system, as did Colin Powell and Condi Rice. And tell them you'r egoing to make information security a top priority in your White House.
It's not that hard, and I don't knwo why someone isn't sitting her down and fleshing this thing out a bit.
Cesare Borgia
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She's been slamming Trump since late 2015, and a few months ago began saying nice things about Hillary, even on foreign policy (!). Ironic given that she's one of the worst offenders in the "republican establishment" in terms of ludicrous attacks on the president, Hillary, etc I find this pretty interesting.
I also seem to remember she didn't like Rubio and would run negative, planted stories about him from the Bush campaign but I can't remember which GOP candidate she seemed to be supporting.
Ignatz Mouse
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She only comes onto my radar occasionally, usually for an outrageous anti-Obama thing. I just checked her article list and twitter, and damn, anti-Trump is her full-time job.
User 463088
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I freaking couldn't be paid enough to be a Trump surrogate right now. There's not enough money or vodka in the world to get me through that.
I think the issue is that anti-vax is the most salient issue for a huge share of people who hold it. They will 100% vote on it alone, regardless of their other beliefs. Whereas sane people wonder why we're even discussing it and vote based on anything else.
I actually don't know if I've ever seen a hard core libertarian (as in, voters for the lib party or the Paul crew) acknowledge the validity of market failure as an economic concept. Or, if they do, it doesn't matter because freedom, measured solely by government activity, is the only normative value of any merit.
Joe Shlabotnik
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No one's quit during the Manafort Era yet so we're not at peak dumpster fire.
Hillary really hates admitting she made a mistake when she still thinks it was basically an okay decision. It's one annoying trait she shares with Obama -- she tends to be confident that if she just explains things right she'll convince reasonable people.
metalslimer
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You can tell that any of the people who might actually be able to argue somewhat effectively are staying as far away as possible. Also I'll just say that Hilary's surrogates are almost as bad as her on the email question.
Black Mamba
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I am quoting this because it made me laugh. Good job.
Man, I can't even keep up with all the stupid shit going on in the Trump campaign.
Is it even fair to call it a dumpster fire, anymore? More like a an entire garbage dump yard catching fire.
There's a Russia joke in there with Vodka mention... for some reason I can't seem to joke about his campaign too much anymore. The guy has lost it.
A poll taken during and just after the RNC.
I would be curious to see if it moves, assuming anyone bothers to poll OK again.
User 463088
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The thing is, I don't think it was that big of a deal. Everyone did it, so who cares? I'd wrap her statement in a ton of qualifiers. She has been willing to admit it was a mistake...or at least qualify it with "I have said it was a mistake." Like...wrap it in whatever you want to.
Hot take:
Obama's attack on the GOP today can go one of two ways:
1) It forces the GOP to double down because they have to spite him at every chance.
2) It scares them enough to actually do it because Obama is popular enough to hurt them.
Either case, it's a win for us.
Trump is now tweeting a story about Hillary telling a dog to fuck off. lol
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hillarys_america_the_secret_history_of_the_democratic_party/
User reviews for Hillary's America is giving me life!
Back when some people were posting that poster I genuinely thought it was 100% fake. I was completely surprised when going to the movies this weekend and seeing that it was actually a real thing, currently playing!
Weekend box office was horrible, $2.5 Million.
User reviews for Hillary's America is giving me life!
Back when some people were posting that poster I genuinely thought it was 100% fake. I was completely surprised when going to the movies this weekend and seeing that it was actually a real thing, currently playing!
Weekend box office was horrible, $2.5 Million.
Oh, it continually attempts to materialize. It's just the Christian variant that they have no problem with that they continue to attempt to implement.
They'll keep tap dancing around the Nameless candidate and call Obama a dictator.
djplaeskool
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This would require humility.
Black Mamba
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They're going off the rails...
User 463088
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I mean, there has to be SOMEONE who can tell him something. Ivanka? Someone.
Brah, they ain't never been on the rails.
Tough spot for the Clinton campaign. Are they willing to go in on a Purple Heart recipient?
They're going off the rails...
Dubbedinenglish
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User 463088
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I can't find it online, but MSNBC just said that in the Survey Monkey poll, Hillary's bounce was big in the West and (I think they said) Midwest/Rustbelt.
I can't find the break downs, and I didn't have it on the TV with the DVR....they had actual numbers. In the West she went from 52/39 to 56/35. But, that was the only one I caught.
I can't find the break downs, and I didn't have it on the TV with the DVR....they had actual numbers. In the West she went from 52/39 to 56/35. But, that was the only one I caught.
BlastProcessing
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They're going off the rails...
How do two people single-handedly do something?
User 463088
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So, let's play Campaign Manager for a bit:
What do you do if you're the manager of the Trump campaign and he'll let you do pretty much anything you want? The stories aren't dying. They're getting worse. You need to change the narrative. What do you do?
What do you do if you're the manager of the Trump campaign and he'll let you do pretty much anything you want? The stories aren't dying. They're getting worse. You need to change the narrative. What do you do?
Joe Shlabotnik
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It probably cost about $100K to make though, tops.
metalslimer
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Eric Trumps response somehow makes Trumps response even worse because it implies that only weak women end up sexually harassed
Of course he's also obscured the fact that he was originally defending the horrific shit Ailes pulled
Of course he's also obscured the fact that he was originally defending the horrific shit Ailes pulled
Didn't you see the hyphen?
It was the Obama-Clinton hydra.
Quit.
I've suspected as such, because Democrats do much more reasonably with white men outside of the South, and Clinton will crush it among professionals.
Black Mamba
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https://www.scribd.com/document/319896703/NBC-News-SurveyMonkey-Toplines-and-Methodology-7-25-731
Interesting 58% put Hillary's speech as excellent or good with another 19% at okay. Just 20% poor or terrible. Stunning numbers.
Don't see the crosstabs you want, though.
User 463088
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It's 2:49 on the Beast Coast
1) Donald Trump said that if his daughter was harassed, she should get a new job.
2) One of his male-spawn said that his sister wasn't weak enough to be sexually harassed.
3) Donald Trump attacked a baby, after saying he loved the baby.
4) Donald Trump got a Purple Heart and said he always wanted one and was proud he got it the easy way.
5) His opponent announced she raised 3x as much money as he did.
6) The President of the United States repudiated him on television, and called out the entire GOP.
7) One of his male spawn tried to say he apologized to the Khan family, which never happened, thus keeping it in the cycle yet again.
How do you fix this?
1) Donald Trump said that if his daughter was harassed, she should get a new job.
2) One of his male-spawn said that his sister wasn't weak enough to be sexually harassed.
3) Donald Trump attacked a baby, after saying he loved the baby.
4) Donald Trump got a Purple Heart and said he always wanted one and was proud he got it the easy way.
5) His opponent announced she raised 3x as much money as he did.
6) The President of the United States repudiated him on television, and called out the entire GOP.
7) One of his male spawn tried to say he apologized to the Khan family, which never happened, thus keeping it in the cycle yet again.
How do you fix this?
They're going off the rails...
Obama and Clinton destabilized the Middle East. The Middle East being a utopian paradise under GWB (or anyone, ever). What the fuck is going on with these people?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
There's nothing you CAN do. The Trump campaign literally cannot run a positive campaign (he has virtually no coherent policy aims beyond vague xenophobic sentiments) so you have no real option but to either double-down on going as negative as possible or dial it back, which isn't going to work either.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Well if it's literally "anything you want" then it's make him flat out fucking apologize to the Khan family right this nanosecond. And then just start over with the kind of non-aggressive statement any other politician on Earth knows how to make in response to Khan's "attacks" and hope the cycle wears itself out.
Lol. Such a wide brush the GOP loves to paint with.
User 463088
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This is true, and I appreciate that. But, they need to turn it up to 11. They have to have something...anything they can put out there that the media would bite on. Something. There are some weakass attempts on twitter, but it's literally, bitching about Hillary telling a dog to fuck off.
They don't have an endorsement or something?
BlastProcessing
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Apologize. Actually apologize. Trump has to be willing to acknowledge his faults.
I would preemptively clean out my desk before I gave that advice.
metalslimer
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It's really difficult because the only way to fix this involves destroying Trump's image where he never admits he is wrong. Him admitting he was wrong on anything would immediately start to raise the idea in people's minds that maybe he isn't right about everything and speaking his mind all the time isn't a good thing.
Solution seems obvious. Tie your opponent to a popular outgoing president with climbing approval ratings and a repeatedly demonstrated ability to get 51% of the country to show up to national elections.
User 463088
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The best I can come up with is fire someone big. Like, something like that would maybe eat up a little bit of the news cycle. You need to find one fire to fight. You cannot survive a battle on 9 fronts. Make a big fuck up that can drown out the rest and then apologize for it? You're at rock bottom at the moment.
Dubbedinenglish
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"MIKE FIX THIS"
Fragamemnon
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All you can really do at this point is continue to reinforce the reality bubble to your strong supporters, get your reasonable elected official allies to tell everyone else you'll be a "good, staunch Republican" and try not to embarass them mulitple times a day.
Then hope the economy tanks later in the year in dramatic, 2008-grade fashion, because you can't win OH/PA/NC with their current urban employment numbers given how badly you are being outspent and out-hustled.
Then hope the economy tanks later in the year in dramatic, 2008-grade fashion, because you can't win OH/PA/NC with their current urban employment numbers given how badly you are being outspent and out-hustled.
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