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PoliGAF 2016 |OT8| No, Donald. You don't.
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metalslimer
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He brought up a good point that he probably only thought that because it actually praised Donald Trump and only mildly bashed Clinton
I can't respect the man. He's boosting a party whose base would love to repeatedly send 150 volts through his cranium to "cure" his sickness (check the party platform). No amount of business savvy excuses this. It's despicable.
User 463088
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What are you talking about, it's a totally normal song in 3/4 time with over an octave of range.
"Annoying" is on the kinder end of the scale of words I'd use for Log Cabiners. I don't hold Republicans in high regard in general for this kind of blasé brushing-over of human rights, but LGBT folks should damn well know better.
thestopsign
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Care to elaborate?
VendettaRed07
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I'm gonna need more information here
User 463088
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I didn't want to get banned. If I spoke my mind.....lawd help us all.
Average range of a pop song is 7-10 notes, past that it is hard for untrained voices to sing clearly even if your range is higher. SSB is 12 notes (1.5 octave).
Preach.
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And this MSNBC reporter is on the floor of the convention, putting Nikki Haley and Mark Sanford on the spot regarding whether they'd vote for Trump. It took them a while to admit that they were voting for him. Awk-waaaard.
Officerrob
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Who are they?
That's not the only important issue to him.
StopMakingSense
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And there are other means to advocate for those important issues without selling-out the humanity of oneself and others.
I might prefer {Republican Platform item(s)}, but if I want to be able to look at myself in the mirror, there's a bare. minimum. theshold. that a party should be able to pass before earning my vote. That there be a minimum decency requirement shouldn't be a difficult concept.
Kaine, Vilsack and Stavridis.
She ended the interview, live, pleading with Rachel Maddow to not state that she spoiled the VP finalists. It was extremely awkward
So it's who has been reported. Out of those three I'd prefer the last two.
NYCmetsfan
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Vilisak please.
Voysa Reezun
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I can empathize. I feel the same way about black folks from Ben Carson to Stacey Dash. I don't expect respect from Republicans, but to have people like Carson and Dash give cover to racists willingly drives me insane.
Unlike Log Cabin Republicans, people like Carson and Dash are giving cover to racists to sell a bunch of books or to revive their D-List careers, which is even worse than just being really hopeful that you can change the GOP's mind because you like low taxes and intervening in Middle Eastern and Central Asian countries to promote American democracy. One is craven, and the other is just idealism (of a shitty set of ideals, certainly, but still).
EDIT: As far as those finalists, woof. Take whoever does the least harm in terms of losing Senators. So not Kaine, I guess.
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If it has to be one of those three...Vilsack
Officerrob
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Blah, I guess I'd take Vilsack out of those three
Me too. Kaine is painfully centrist if not conservative on some issues.
Boring ass choices. I can't believe these are her finalists.
metalslimer
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The big difference to me is that the GOP platform is just openly hostile towards LGBT people whereas the GOP platform is only secretly racist. Like you can't even defend the GOP platform on gay rights.
Oh and I guess Vilsack, but blah she's going to be safe.
The thing about his stance on bank deregulation most likely means Kaine is out.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-clinton-vp_us_578fc8e3e4b0bdddc4d2c86c
So it's likely the other two. I wish it was Warren but she might be more effective just going after Trump non-stop and it won't somehow reflect negatively on Hillary and the VP. I think the VP pick might mean less as long as it does no damage due to how many surrogates will be out there once the convention is over. It will be high quality at there no matter what.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-clinton-vp_us_578fc8e3e4b0bdddc4d2c86c
So it's likely the other two. I wish it was Warren but she might be more effective just going after Trump non-stop and it won't somehow reflect negatively on Hillary and the VP. I think the VP pick might mean less as long as it does no damage due to how many surrogates will be out there once the convention is over. It will be high quality at there no matter what.
NYCmetsfan
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I still want perez 
I just know trump will say something racist about him and make the latino vote 90-10
I just know trump will say something racist about him and make the latino vote 90-10
The last two make the most sense to me. Vilsack could solidify a Clinton win in Iowa and help to possibly garner some rural voters. Stavridis helps with her somehow being weaker than Trump on Terrorism and security.
My bet is on Vilsak
I still want perez
I just know trump will say something racist about him and make the latino vote 90-10
Give it time, it'll be 90-10 anyway
NYCmetsfan
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Perez!
User 463088
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Not after the issue with his backstory coming out.
Same here.
Box of Kittens
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That's pretty much my sentiment. Vilsack is a boring pick. Kaine is a bad pick masquerading as a boring pick. Stavridis is a too cute pick.
GutsOfThor
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Me three. I'd be disappointed if it's Kaine or Vilsack.
Would've been nice if Hillary could have found someone that could help her with her image amongst young people / "progressives"... but I guess part of the problem with that is people under the age of 30 only really know Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. The other progressive options that might be able to excite that same group over time either wouldn't survive the vetting process or don't mesh well with Hillary in terms of them working together throughout their term(s).
I'm still holding out hope for at least someone like Hickenlooper, but anyone not Kaine on that short-list will be fine, I guess.
I'm still holding out hope for at least someone like Hickenlooper, but anyone not Kaine on that short-list will be fine, I guess.
Obamacare *boos*
Liberals *boos*
Donald Trump *cheers*
Lower taxes *cheers*
Common Core *boos*
Not only was this presenter incredibly unorganized in her overall message, jumping from random topic to random topic, but I don't think she ever made an actual argument. She just hit standard right-wing talking points seemingly at random, then walked away.
Liberals *boos*
Donald Trump *cheers*
Lower taxes *cheers*
Common Core *boos*
Not only was this presenter incredibly unorganized in her overall message, jumping from random topic to random topic, but I don't think she ever made an actual argument. She just hit standard right-wing talking points seemingly at random, then walked away.
nature boy
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#teamVilsack
Honestly this is a big fuck you to Democratic voters. I also think it could turn off lots of Bernie people who had a hard enough time coming around and supporting Hillary. It's just dumb. I think Vilsak is the easy choice. No one knows who the hell Stavridis is.
That lady started her talk by suggesting being a stay-at-home mom was bad. I mean, come on.
Wait. I'll admit to being fuzzy on a lot of campaign finance rules, but is any of this allowed? Trump and Pence staffers participating in the meeting?
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