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PoliGAF 2017 |OT2| Well, maybe McMaster isn't a traitor.

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He basically asked her why she thought Trump won and she went on to the typical answer her and Bernie went on; He tapped into "anger" and that Trump was full of shit. But then he was like " oh that's great. Trump lied to them but they don't care and still aren't voting for you Pocahontas".

He made it as awkward as possible for her pretty much

He actually called her Pocahontas?
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
He basically asked her why she thought Trump won and she went on to the typical answer her and Bernie went on; He tapped into "anger" and that Trump was full of shit. But then he was like " oh that's great. Trump lied to them but they don't care and still aren't voting for you Pocahontas".

He made it as awkward as possible for her pretty much

Wow, what the hell dude. I mean, he's not wrong that it wasn't economic anxiety but come on dude.
 
He actually called her Pocahontas?
Yeah

In the context it was sort of like , he wasn't "really" calling her that but asking what do you say to his voters who do call you that; and how does you're explanation of why Trump so actually explain the rhetoric on the right and why they like him

But yes he did
 
Sarcastically, as if he was Trump

I know that but still one some level disrespectful even in jest.


Yeah

In the context it was sort of like , he wasn't "really" calling her that but asking what do you say to his voters who do call you that; and how does you're explanation of why Trump so actually explain the rhetoric on the right and why they like him

But yes he did
Hardly surprising that he went for the caustic approach instead of asking the question in a more respectful manner, dude often wants to be taken more seriously than a comedian but shit like that...
 

benjipwns

Banned
Kind of reminds me of:

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benjipwns

Banned
This was Lou Dobbs quote of the day about Trump, WFB would have enjoyed it and tweeted it immediately @JKGalbraith (they were good buddies who couldn't go twenty seconds without ribbing each other):

Yesterday on Hannity he said:
Paul Ryan is not a conservative, never has been.

You can see why people might turn to Roger Ailes for help starting a conservative network. And why Murdoch might see this as a time to shake up things.

Remember a year ago when Fox was being attacked by Bretibart and co. as too anti-Trump and even guys like Hannity and Rush were hesitating to jump on board hoping Cruz could come through somehow* lol

*Lou always had been a Trump guy, as soon as Trump said Mexicans were rapists he was like "finally, somebody gets it!"
 
benji did you know that Trump's "Drain the Swamp" platform was just aping Victor Berger as I discovered doing research for a paper the other day?

that purity testing socialist Jew, should've unified with Roosevelt smh
 
Lord, if there was any justice in the world Warren would destroy Trump in 2020

Somehow I suspect the "Pocahontas" thing becomes the new "But her emails" if she runs
 

Got

Banned
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/28/first-estimate-of-2017-q1-gdp.html

Oh boy here comes that recession. Let's see how his followers like seeing things crumble, look for leadership and only see Trump at his golf course blaming Obama and talking about his electoral win.

finally.

all that winning that was promised.

Lol jesus... so not even NYT understands free speech.

if most of NeoGAF's members can't get it, then how can the Times get it?
 

benjipwns

Banned
benji did you know that Trump's "Drain the Swamp" platform was just aping Victor Berger as I discovered doing research for a paper the other day?

that purity testing socialist Jew, should've unified with Roosevelt smh
There were common sentiments used earlier. The Social Democratic Party and Mother Jones used it before or around the same time as Berger, so who knows who ripped off who since that's the same circle of people. Abolitionists used forms of it. I'm surprised it doesn't have earlier citations. But I guess nobody else built their seats of power in a swamp.

I mean, it was a literal swamp and they did have to more or less drain it after the Civil War to put in sewers and roads as there was a population boom and it already was below the river line. Before they just let it get all muddy and filled in since few stuck around and everything was far enough inland. Though the river was reported to have notably stunk all the way to the White House, well into the late 1800s. And that was from mostly natural runoff still, the start of mining just made it worse.

Until they built the Mall there was a whole bunch of nothing along the river:
National_Mall_circa_1901_-_Washington_DC.jpg

Capitol in the distance there and that's from the Washington Monument, there's still another two thirds of what's now the Mall to go behind us that was just trees and stuff.

Actually, there kinda still is a whole bunch of nothing along the river on DC's side. I assume people are still afraid of coming across a naked John Quincy Adams swimming in it.
 

Grexeno

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You jest, but in the latest The Weeds podcast Sarah Kliff said that her reporting was uncovering just that. That a lot of people in the "heartland" are ok with Trump taking away their healthcare, because it'll mean that those "other people" won't have it, either.

But, you know, economic anxiety and all that.
Well, I wasn't jesting. :p
 
But I guess nobody else built their seats of power in a swamp.
Not to be pedantic, but a lot of seats of power were built on swamps or wetlands. St. Petersburg, Mexico City, and Venice come to mind. Etymologists say both the word "Berlin" and the old name for Paris (Lutetia) might be derived from Slavic and Celtic words for swamp as well.
 
Yeah, Maher was being pretty brutal, using the exact rhetoric that Trump would use against any democrat running against him.

-Petty insult
-"Why didnt the democrats magically fix everything overnight?"

Stuff like that helped get Trump elected and the democrats need to be prepared for it and learn how to counter it.
 
For hyping up the 100 days, there really aren't a lot of stories on the various web pages of major news places about how big of a failure Trump is.

I thought the media loves a good train wreck?
 

benjipwns

Banned
I'm surprised benji fell for it, but it's a myth that DC was built on a swamp.
Any place with relative humidity over 67% and an extended period of temperatures above 80 is a swamp and should be illegal with penalty of death for residing there or visiting there or even thinking about there. This is non-negotiable. The line must be drawn here, this far, no further. Anyone who opposes me is an ally of the Republican Party.

Not to be pedantic, but a lot of seats of power were built on swamps or wetlands. St. Petersburg, Mexico City, and Venice come to mind. Etymologists say both the word "Berlin" and the old name for Paris (Lutetia) might be derived from Slavic and Celtic words for swamp as well.
Mexico City is a pretty good example of a horrible swamp. Thankfully, our President will have the population be moving north to build the wall and we can drain the swamp while they're gone.

Leningrad was a terrible seat of power. But it should be outlawed too for being a swamp. Moscow would be a pretty good swamp if it was warmer. Too dangerous to take the chance.

In fact, I'm pleased to announce I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever, we begin bombing in five minutes.
 
He basically asked her why she thought Trump won and she went on to the typical answer her and Bernie went on; He tapped into "anger" and that Trump was full of shit. But then he was like " oh that's great. Trump lied to them but they don't care and still aren't voting for you Pocahontas".

He made it as awkward as possible for her pretty much

Warren has a JD and has a good sense of what's going on because of work in her field of expertise. She's not giving the typical answer. She's giving more or less the right answer.
 

Beartruck

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Didn't want to start a new thread for this but this anecdote just happened to me. I have a coworker with a kid in the national guard who is scared we're going to war with North Korea but voted for Trump because she "couldn't let hillary win." Its like, every republican president since the 80's has started a war. What did she think would happen?
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
On Fox interview, Trump is signaling he might push for changes in senate rules, including the filibuster.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5415691170001/?#sp=show-clips

He also thinks one of his big accomplishments in first 100 days is creating the "foundations" for relationships with countries like... Japan, China. As if US had no relationship beforehand.

He ran on a platform of promising to destroy those relationships, and partially did, and his "achievement" is to backtrack on those promises while embarrassing himself and playing brinksmanship with a country that already fell off the edge.
 

dramatis

Member
I've been watching the latest Vic Berger video and it hit the Judge Jeanine clips where she shat on Paul Ryan for not babying Trump.

I'm thinking about how the latest attempt at healthcare was shepherded by Trump's admin and the House Freedom Caucus, without much ado from Ryan...and they still failed.
 
Paul Ryan is a failure, but the Freedom Caucus is one of the few things in the House is making things worse for Trump to pass anything. It scares the moderates away when things go too far right.
 

Slayven

Member
Paul Ryan is a failure, but the Freedom Caucus is one of the few things in the House is making things worse for Trump to pass anything. It scares the moderates away when things go too far right.

It is facisnating, you have a once in a generation chance to do everything you been promising, and yet they can't seem to tie their shoes.

Democrats been playing this right, sitting back and just saying "Thats y'alls man". Let them own every fucking thing
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/04/ro-khanna-trillion-dollar-plan/524754/ - Interesting interview w/ Ro Khanna, who just got elected to represent part of Silicon Valley. His big proposal is getting a massive expansion of the EITC (one that would be a gigantic increase for people without kids), and I really like the way he's talking about this stuff, because he's not trying to build a time machine.
Just finished reading the article. Damn I like what he's saying and I would kill for more apprenticeships. Part of the reason I'm looking into a trade right now is due to that model. If tech offered that I'd thrive but instead it feels like I have to be an all star to be hired.
 
It is facisnating, you have a once in a generation chance to do everything you been promising, and yet they can't seem to tie their shoes.

Democrats been playing this right, sitting back and just saying "Thats y'alls man". Let them own every fucking thing

The craziest thing to me was watching the republicans rise to power by advertising that they're going to repeal obamacare, then when they get elected their voters get pissed off because they'd be screwed without obamacare.

Like, what the fucking fuck, why did you vote for them? Did you think they were joking? Im so confused. This is not logical.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Would McConnell buckle if Trump places the pressure on him to remove the filibuster?

Trump's ability to place pressure on anything is reducing in ability every day.
I seriously doubt it.
 

Tommy DJ

Member
The craziest thing to me was watching the republicans rise to power by advertising that they're going to repeal obamacare, then when they get elected their voters get pissed off because they'd be screwed without obamacare.

Like, what the fucking fuck, why did you vote for them? Did you think they were joking? Im so confused. This is not logical.

Faith based decision making in the United States. They know there are issues with Obamacare. They hoped that the Republicans would fix those problems.
 

GrapeApes

Member
Would McConnell buckle if Trump places the pressure on him to remove the filibuster?
I think this is safe for the time being. It's hard to undo Democratic legislation. People seem to like it when the government is looking out for their interests. If Democrats ever run the table Republicans will find it hard to undo new programs. That could happen as soon as 2020. McConnell playing a long game. He's going to be an elected official longer than Trump.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Would McConnell buckle if Trump places the pressure on him to remove the filibuster?
McConnell, or someone, would talk to Trump for 10 minutes and completely change his mind. Trump would then declare his backing off from advocating the removal of the filibuster as a victory.

Trump can't convince anyone of anything, in part because he has absolutely no conviction or real knowledge about whatever he pushes at any given moment.
 
McConnell, or someone, would talk to Trump for 10 minutes and completely change his mind. Trump would then declare his backing off from advocating the removal of the filibuster as a victory.

Trump can't convince anyone of anything, in part because he has absolutely no conviction or real knowledge about whatever he pushes at any given moment.

It's been pretty entertaining watching his magical negotiation powers get exposed. His idea of "negotiating" was to threaten smaller businesses to get what he wants, and they'd settle because it wasnt worth the trouble. As it turns out, whenever you're going up against someone who can actually defend themselves......doesnt work so well.
 
Environmental events like never have black people. the super white folk music is probably just one of the reasons.

I mean, usually yes, but there have been lots of Hispanic Americans and Native Americans and Pakistani Americans speaking today.

All of the white people have done folk music, but they've only been 25% of speakers.

But all folk music.

It's bad.
 
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