Yeah it was great. But it was kind of depressing that all those folks believe in Democratic principles and voted for Trump. What do you even do about that?
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Yeah it was great. But it was kind of depressing that all those folks believe in Democratic principles and voted for Trump. What do you even do about that?
metalslimer
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I don't know maybe can get a more liberal racist than Manchin though!
Makes sense. Heller's about the only GOP Senator to have cause to worry in 2018, unless a Dem landslide happens.
El_Tiguere
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You find Bernie 2.0 ASAP and rally every Democrat behind her/him.
The Bill Nye segment is the only Tucker related thing I've seen since Stewart on Crossfire. I think I'll wait another decade before watching anything of his again.
neurosisxeno
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That segment was infuriating.
How the fuck is he an up and coming personality on that network?
All I see is that asshole in a bow-tie looking for validation. He always has this stupid look on his face and his 'conversations' with guests comprise of sticking to one fucking question and never, ever moving off of it no matter where it goes.
Maybe he just realized 'if I act like an insufferable cunt at all times, maybe I'll becoming a rising star on the network'? It seems to be working.
Aaron Strife
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Thankfully that's all we need.
Collins is a very unlikely vote for the GOP, at least for this plan.
Murkowski won't vote for anything that fucks Alaska over. What are they gonna do, primary her in six years so she can win another write-in campaign? No love lost there.
And Rand Paul who's in the "this doesn't strap my boots hard enough" category.
neurosisxeno
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There's probably 1 or 2 more Senators in that category. A lot of Senate Republicans are probably hoping they won't have to vote on this thing. In the House it doesn't matter because the seats are generally so safe--in the Senate all bets are off. They vote for the worst Healthcare Reform in history and odds are the get ousted next election.
Yea, after the CBO scoring odds are everyone up for reelection in 2018 is going to try and put as much distance between them and this bill as possible. I wouldn't be surprised if they worked behind the scenes to kill it off before it ever got to them.
Got the Shakes
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Remember how we were hearing that you can't trust the CBO? The White House's own estimates of the number of people who would lose insurance under their plan is actually higher than the CBO estimates.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/obamacare-uninsured-white-house-236019
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/obamacare-uninsured-white-house-236019
balladofwindfishes
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Not sure how his schtick even works. Seems very unlikable and annoying in every clip I've seen. I can't imagine Fox News viewers even like him on a personal level.
AntraxSuicide
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Y'all better check my post history because this has been one of my thoughts for awhile now. We already do S.S. cards, just make a national ID that counts as a voter ID, and send that shit out for free to every American. Then you flip the script from "The GOP is trying to uphold the sanctity of the vote" to "The GOP doesn't want everyone to be able to vote."
And as for a holiday, we should just have an election month. We already pay our taxes over 4 months, why do we need to count ballots in a 12 hour period?
Hmm I feel like this is something we should bring up to our Reps. May bring this up to my local indivisible group and see if it can spread.
neurosisxeno
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The same people who push Voter ID are curiously against a National ID. I think they argue if it were free it would take away revenue from states or some nonsense. Everywhere should just do mail-in like they do in the PNW. I wish Vermont had that system, then i could actually learn about some of these yokels on the ballot...
UberTag
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You should stop watching CNN.
Plenty of better networks out there that don't pay Jeffrey Lord to be a punching bag in the name of "equal time" and impartiality towards a regime that considers them the enemy.
This seems like too sensible of an idea to actually happen.
National ID = mark of the beast
Vestal
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Officerrob
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54 million....
So what does this actually mean?
This is a nothing burger. He thought Hillary was going to win and he was hedging to protect his caucus.
Bannon throwing Ryan under the bus so he can hijack the Republican Party. Bannon's into the whole cultural nationalism thing while Ryan is content with just watching poor people suffer.
BoogieWoogie
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It's a nothing burger to us, but to vindictive Donald?
It's such a weirdly vindictive thing since we already knew Ryan said this back in October, the only thing new is hearing it in his own words on the call.
davepoobond
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i'm not sure which is worse.
Doc Holliday
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So why is Breitbart doing this now?
RastaMentality
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Isn't that what republicans used in their obama antichrist narrative?
Emerson
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Because they don't have an actual ideology other than fucking everything up.
Holy shit that last quote sounds like it was directly from Trump
neurosisxeno
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If I recall correctly their claim was that Obama was going to make all the white Christians register with the Government much like Hitler did to the Jews, so he could then declare a state of emergency and put them all in FEMA camps which were basically concentration camps.
Yeaaaaa. Considering this I expect Trump to start backpedaling on the AHCA any day now.
gutter_trash
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kill Ryan's version of Healthcare Bill
Yep. But obviously anonymized since "I am the best negotiator on the planet" would sort of give it away.
What's funny is the president could have made a bill, chose not to, advertised that he wouldn't but would give guidance on the house bill, obviously failed to do that well, and now complains that he could have done it better, and in all likelihood it would have been worse. Sad!
Officerrob
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That quote is Trump or Kellyanne
neurosisxeno
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I severely doubt this President could have written or organized a committee to write a bill. I don't see him as the hands-on Obama or Clinton type where he carefully examines or gives actual input on pieces of legislation. He's more a GWB type where he says an idea and then people hand him bills that do almost nothing that he really wants and he blindly signs them. Or he just issues Executive Orders to get whatever he wants done.
RastaMentality
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FEMA camps were a top 3 obama conspiracy. the sheer insanity.
by "could have written a bill" I meant "had opportunity to" not "is capable of"
ItWasMeantToBe19
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JADE HELM was the best one.
Because a lot of major Republicans had to go and pretend it was worth looking into.
StopMakingSense
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FEMA camps go back to Clinton. Srsly. Went hand in hand with UN Black Helicopters and shit.
A really good Dollop was made out of that one at least.
AntraxSuicide
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Hopefully the Dems aren't stupid enough to start burning down our fundraising apparatus, and it should be a piece of cake to just raise the funds to pay for these IDs and go from there. It costs dick to laminate a card, especially in bulk, and so just get a few Clooney types to just front the cash. Could probably get a few foundations like the Gates Foundation to pay in a good bit.
But yes, mail in should be a federal requirement.
Be the change you want to see in the world, man! If we get control, this is a layup. Easy, no fighting required.
Maybe they think it's like one of those things where if you go all the away over to one side, you end up on the other side. Keep pushing until no one has healthcare, and then everyone will have healthcare.
Trump is a MASTER NEGOTIATOR, what are you talking about you traitor! /s
fake edit: incidentally my computer BSOD'd while I was typing this, I think DT is already after me
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