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PoliGAF 2017 |OT2| Well, maybe McMaster isn't a traitor.
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Cotton's a piece of shit, but he isn't dumb. I'm sure he realizes that his constituents benefit greatly from the programs in place. If he's seen voting for something that has real consequences in the quality of life for the people he represents, then that may hurt his re-election chances.
Or not. I could be talking out of my ass.
mightynine
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The response from the right on Maddow's Malady is a little too coordinated, if you know what I mean.
Christ, now I'm getting into conspiracy theories.
Christ, now I'm getting into conspiracy theories.
Point out the lie?
It's just terrible because the "MSM" (MSNBC included) is fighting an uphill battle. If you think this isn't a huge sore spot for her career I think you misunderstand the pettiness and steadfastness of the right.
benjipwns
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It's a shame that investigative journalism hasn't made the transition from print to a medium driven solely by ad revenue. I wonder what the hitch could be. Hmmm...
I just think we'll be hearing about this dumb night for the next 4 years in certain circles.
I don't think this helps Trump necessarily. I just think it was tremendously stupid on her part and torches her codicil if with the centrists that still remain.
benjipwns
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Some never left it
edit: benji
edit edit: I saw you change the date of that joke and somehow that makes it even funnier
PantherLotus
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PantherLotus
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look i don't disagree that WaPo and NYT are great, but do recall they were ground zero for the endless email headlines and fell 100% for the comey bait. poligaf is fine but rarely relevatory. PBS is fine if you like hearing rich folks talk to rich folks.
Head of Vengarl
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PBS Newshour is the only news I'm watching these days. They're doing good.
And this is the truth of the matter.
whyamihere
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Bored. Who cares. On to bigger things, like saving 24 million people from losing their health insurance.
Yep.
You honestly don't think Maddows credibility was dealt a huge blow tonight?
Fuck. I'm disappointed.
TheAbsolution
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This won't even be a thing by tommorow. *Yawns.*
But this is new.
Yeah, at least NPR is covering this from a legitimate policy angle concerning his position on the AMT and how much of it made up that tax bill.
And policy is where the battles need to be fought for those of us not in the IC. The utter disaster of the Trumpcare rollout is testament enough to that.
metalslimer
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Bwahaha. I turned it off halfway through O'Donnells show when Rachel was looking pretty uncomfortable. Just take the L and talk about fucking healthcare!
The healthcare bill that will end up with people bankrupt and/or dead. I will stick to the rule that actually groundbreaking news does not ever get a build up.
Mobius and pet octopus
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And people still deny that the trump admin is calculated in trying to control the new cycle, sometimes through "negative" publicity or "fumbles"? Shit is meant to distract.
Lawrence did stop around 35 minutes in and went to a different topic, Brian Williams started with the news but went to a different item after about 10 minutes. They even had someone on via phone that basically said "This really isn't much more then a distraction from the big stuff happening tomorrow and likely won't be in the news after it."
PantherLotus
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whyamihere
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(You probably should link to the person who made said joke)
https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/841835642753556480
Also, this reply gets it.
MSNBC as a network lost it's credibility long ago, at least for me. Maddow though is really losing traction with some on the left/center tonight, and only them, for reasons that they should really check with themselves for a good justification.
I think people are just very frustrated in general, which is legitimate. Rachel is just doing her job the way any opinion writer (which is what she is, primarily) would.
hydragonwarrior
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She was a leading voice in dissent against Trump and she was loud enough to stand out. However, this really does injure this movement, much to the glee of Repubs everywhere. She won't be trusted for a smoking gun for a good long while, which leads to who can reveal it? Colbert?
Carpe Libertatem
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The Washington Post or the New York Times, like it has always been
It's baffling to me that anybody was trusting Maddow to produce a smoking gun. You know she's not a news program, right?
metalslimer
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Yeah Maddow generally doesn't get scoops. For reference her biggest election scoops were PPP poll numbers, so I don't think we have to worry about whether people trust her. Now if WaPo or the NYT had tried this (they wouldn't because they don't need to hype a newspaper article), there would be a lot more of an issue.
Paul Ryan's already on that.
RastaMentality
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I still feel bad about Farenthold's huge charity piece going unnoticed. A load of time went into that but no one cared.
I do recall. What does the bolded actually mean though? Where are the non-rich folks on any network or cable television news?
hydragonwarrior
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Popularity is a huge damn deal. Dems need someone as loud and convincing as Hannity is to the right and she was really doing well in that regard.
Big and loud voices work and they can't only come from a newspaper headline.
I don't see how this damages her credibility, she clearly said she had Trumps Tax Returns, she had an actual tax return from a period of time that wasn't in the news and is in fact the most recent one, her other reporting before this still stands up, her broadcast leading it the topic even talked about the need for more information and that while this was a small leak, the more juicy stuff was still hidden further in the detailed stuff. It was other people afterwards with the whole news ticker and Lawrence that made it a mountain before she even got a chance to report it. All this does is deflate any 'hype' she might have for a story coming out BEFORE the story actually breaks, which no one who actually does leak stuff like this does, they don't announce anything. I hope this is a lesson for the entire staff at NBC, if you have something to report, report it, don't try to hype it. Let it stand on its own credibility or risk the aftermath of disappointment.
Worth noting that similar events in right-wing media get gobbled up gleefully by the base.
PantherLotus
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you make a good point. but i'm not talking about what's happening on the screen.
I don't see a need for someone like Hannity on the left and really don't see him appealing to anyone that isn't already firmly entrenched on the right. Well maybe independents and undecideds who will take a yelling idiot at his word and not do a modicum of fact checking.
PantherLotus
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The guy who gave it to her even said its possible it came from Trump, he has a history of this shit so its not even uncalled for.
Yes this.
Trump isn't actually capable of doing something like this and not having it leak, cmon.
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