Hi gaf, where do you guys go for your opposing viewpoints on political discussions and topics? I believe it's important to empower oneself with the rival faction's point of view to more coherently construct a counter argument. The best thing I could find to shed light on what trump supporters think is the AskTrumpSupporters subreddit, which is generally pretty civil, thankfully. I don't agree with them, but I at least see where they are coming from. Do you guys have any other news sources that accomplish a similar thing to avoid this new era of tunnel vision and echo chambers?
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT2| Well, maybe McMaster isn't a traitor.
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PantherLotus
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Aaron Strife
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Twitch and YouTube comments
benjipwns
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http://reason.com/
statist trash
in all honesty, you probably want something like http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ or https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/ or http://takimag.com/ or http://www.toqonline.com/ to "get inside a trump supporters head" on a semi-intellectual level rather than just daily news reaction like breitbart would have
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So today I went to the Fox News facebook page where the live feed of the White House... whatever you call it was streaming and just... read everything.
I mean at first I listened to what was going on, but it was basically just Spicer deflecting every fucking questions, so I turned my attention to the comments.
This was mainly in an attempt to learn about the way that the other side thinks and trying to understand why they would be in favor of the AHCA.
What I found was:
Most of these people don't understand how insurance works
None of them even understood what the ACA did in the first place
None of them care because they have to pay more money.
.... what the fuck do I do with this information?
I straight up tried to address individual people in the cacophany of comments and where they were at fault as an attempt to wake them up. I wasn't derogatory by any means, and was really open minded about the whole thing, but ultimately I think I was just spinning my wheels.
I mean at first I listened to what was going on, but it was basically just Spicer deflecting every fucking questions, so I turned my attention to the comments.
This was mainly in an attempt to learn about the way that the other side thinks and trying to understand why they would be in favor of the AHCA.
What I found was:
Most of these people don't understand how insurance works
None of them even understood what the ACA did in the first place
None of them care because they have to pay more money.
.... what the fuck do I do with this information?
I straight up tried to address individual people in the cacophany of comments and where they were at fault as an attempt to wake them up. I wasn't derogatory by any means, and was really open minded about the whole thing, but ultimately I think I was just spinning my wheels.
benjipwns
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Realize that the only joy in comments is finding the best ones.
And tormenting other people by sharing them.
soul creator
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Bonen no Max'd
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what are these in reaction to?
other than Minnesota's just general state of moral degradation
soul creator
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every time I see people on the right ranting about seeing leftists everywhere, or Clinton/Obama/Democrats/etc. all being radical socialists, I get really sad since it's never actually true 
I'm just imagining someone with the bold inspiration and emotion of an Obama, but actually backing it up with bold and inspirational policies, rather than "we must preserve the sanctity of bipartisanship and use these formulas to calculate whether you receive a subsidy to pay for the bold engine of innovative free market solutions")
I'm just imagining someone with the bold inspiration and emotion of an Obama, but actually backing it up with bold and inspirational policies, rather than "we must preserve the sanctity of bipartisanship and use these formulas to calculate whether you receive a subsidy to pay for the bold engine of innovative free market solutions")
benjipwns
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i just clicked the first non-trump story on breitbart:
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/...and-queen-in-favor-of-genderless-alternative/
Aaron Strife
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Peter Graves is spinning in his namesake.
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Was. An awesome school. Now it's a Liberal Satan-Loving Betacuck Brainwash Facility. Open your eyes sheeple!
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I'm intrigued by these quotes, but I think browsing the comment section of Brietbart might seriously damage my mental health...
Don't read the stuff Nazis think
http://www.macleans.ca/politics/how-russias-attack-on-freeland-got-traction-in-canada/
False history and propaganda at work north of the border, too.
(take a drink for Greenwald once again peddling Russian disinfo)
False history and propaganda at work north of the border, too.
(take a drink for Greenwald once again peddling Russian disinfo)
aspiegamer
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Everyone should play NieR:Automata. After 30 hours and multiple endings in a robot-run futuristic hellscape full of ethical and moral quandaries and exploring the potential unintended consequences of AI you'll feel sooooooo much better about US politics.
This got one mention earlier, but I wanted to echo it--Trump wouldn't have watched Maddow unless he thought something major was going to go down. The full taxes are out there, somewhere, and he knows it.
How can a place simultaneously turn into a Scandinavian leftist wonderland like Sweden and an Islamic theocracy run by refugees? Damn, make up your minds crazy twitter people. This is just throwing scary words together to make you feel better about your own country.
This got one mention earlier, but I wanted to echo it--Trump wouldn't have watched Maddow unless he thought something major was going to go down. The full taxes are out there, somewhere, and he knows it.
How can a place simultaneously turn into a Scandinavian leftist wonderland like Sweden and an Islamic theocracy run by refugees? Damn, make up your minds crazy twitter people. This is just throwing scary words together to make you feel better about your own country.
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I'm about 6-7 hours in, and I love it. It's absolutely not the kind of game I normally play (I'm not much for hack and slash action games or even really JRPG's, and definitely not twin-stick shooters) but it offers so much and does it better than any other game I've played recently. I have the next 2 days off work and I plan on sinking quite a bit of time into it.
Because you were spinning your wheels.
Nothing really. Just sit tight, and laugh when in a discussion 2 weeks from now, some high and mighty poster tells you that the solution to things is reasoned discourse with the people you just tried to get through too.
First of all, this thread is very much the place for such posts, welcome to poligaf.
As to your question, while I'm all for engaging people with different point of views, I don't think that comments on the Fox News facebook page is the most productive way to go about this.
If you enjoy the discussion/arguments then by all means, go for it, but if it's something that frustrate you, just find other avenues for that. I don't think you're very likely to win a whole lot of hearts and minds there.
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Same way Obama can be a communist and a Nazi. Same way he can be a Muslim and also pushing the Jewish conspiracy.
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A Human Becoming
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Trump's tweet about Snoop Dogg is so fucking weird, even for him.
Rebel Leader
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Anyone familiar with the trump language? Translation please!
benjipwns
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Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
I don't have a clue what it means...
A Human Becoming
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You would have to check Fox and Friends.
A Serious Man
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I take it Snoop fired a gun at a picture of Trump or something? Either way, he's still drunk on that "Obama is a tyrant!" nonsense.
Rebel Leader
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.... that's it?
A Human Becoming
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Trump's priorities are as clear as ever.
A Human Becoming
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Makes sense after the White House statement supported how much taxes he paid that year.
This smells of a Trump plant.
UberTag
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Either that or a Bannon plant and Trump's oblivious about it.
cartoon_soldier
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Morning Consult poll has Trump approval at 52-45
The taxes were totally a trump plant. It couldn't be more obvious.
It helps push his media narrative while not making him look as bad as we all thought
benjipwns
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FAKE NEWS
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fucking abyss
Gross.
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benjipwns
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well that's a new one
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