ArkhamFantasy
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Less than that, even if the republicans hate him, they probably dont want to establish a precedent where you go to prison just for breaking the law and being a traitor, you know...petty stuff.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
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Less than that, even if the republicans hate him, they probably dont want to establish a precedent where you go to prison just for breaking the law and being a traitor, you know...petty stuff.
That seems high.
Hooligan69
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True, but he/his people are filling judgeships all over the country, which is scary, being lifetime appointments IIRC.
Abinash117
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Depends how badly the investigation ends for Trump. It could be high, if not than he would pretty much lose almost everything he has.
"Let's just talk openly about being white supremacists" is a difference in philosophy as well as conduct.
Also conduct is a very broad word. There are a lot of GOP-friendly diplomats and military consultants who got frozen out by Trump because they said, correctly, that he was not competent to run the country, and that competence was important. That wasn't a question of philosophy! But calling it conduct kind of undersells it.
I bet Kushner is fucked too, my guess is he gets got on obstruction for Comey. Not the president (unfortunately)
Abinash117
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What would be the most serious white collar crime that Trump can be charged of that can land him in jail? Knowing Trump he probably did everything.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Am I totally nuts, or did the leaks about Mueller's investigation largely stop once we learned he had moved that one guy to HR?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
They had stopped a few weeks before, IIRC.
Abinash117
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It was only like 5 days ago.
Last real news might had been that Mueller is seeking interviews with officials in the West Wing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/us/politics/mueller-trump-russia-priebus.html
Box of Kittens
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Well, those NBC/Marist numbers in WI/MI/PA suggest he's probably losing a number of Obama/Trump voters, and a July NBC/WSJ poll showed him underwater in counties he flipped (though beating his overall approvals).
Host Samurai
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If Trump doesn't get jailed than I pray his assets get frozen.
Aaron Strife
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Which is pretty great - I'd rather have a skeletal government that can't do much damage than one stacked with Trump cronies. I seem to recall him making a big deal about filling ten posts a month or something, which could have severely damaging consequences on the future of the nation given lifetime judiciary terms.
Well sure - he won them, after all. The important thing is that he's losing their support and that Trump support doesn't translate to generic GOP support.
If 2018 is a Dem wave, it'll be because we crawled our way back to what Obama did in 08/12 while holding onto whatever gains Clinton made in 16. Winning the Rust Belt and the Sun Belt, Ohio and Georgia.
Fenderputty
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Trump ending up in jail depends not only on what Mueller finds, but also the ability for a state AG to go after Trump for state crimes rather than federal.
Host Samurai
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Can he be charged with state crimes depending on what Mueller finds within his finances?
Chained Prometheus
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My thoughts exactly. I think Trump could end up in prison, but it won't be for treason or anything pertaining to his involvement with the Russia scandal. It'll be something state-level that puts him in the slammer, if anything.
I still think there's a good chance he keels over from a heart attack before the investigation finishes.
That's fine. Trump out of office is good enough for me.
Yeah i doubt he goes to jail. But i firmly believe he will get removed from office in a Richard Nixon situation.
He is removed but Pence pardons him to "heal the nation".
RustyNails
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Err what, did I miss an oppo droppo or something?
Fenderputty
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I thought Mueller was working closely with the NY AG, but I could be wrong. As an example though, Mueller finds Trump laundered a whole bunch of Russian money illegally through his hotels in NY. The state AG could bring up state charges in this instance. In fact, one of the reasons people were thinking he'd be stupid to fire Mueller is, that a state AG would just pick him back up and give him the same subpoena power.
It will be Russian related, but it will be one of those things that are hard to pin down to collusion legally. I think it will be laundering that does him in, if it's at a state level.
Dude cries that the White House isn't nice enough for him compared to his shitty gilded tower. Even the most plush jail for white collar criminals would break him.
BoboBrazil
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Same, I see all this talk and get excited and then I don't see anything anywhere.
Spoiled Milk
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This country does not put its presidents in jail. If you're champing at the bit for incarceration of public officials, you should be embarrassed. This is not China.
jack_package_200
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I...what
Spoiled Milk
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It's been my personal opinion for a while now that Steve King is just two eleven year old boys in a trenchcoat.
ShadowSwordmaster
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I don't get it. Is this a conspiracy theory?
Box of Kittens
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As a resident of Illinois, I know nothing about jailing public officials.
Mutanthands
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JFC. God knows what that's supposed to mean when shit like that comes from him. Assume the worst.
SatelliteOfLove
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Yup. That's why he's down to unqualified LGBT-bashers babbling on about "race traitors".
No GOP of any specilzation would want to deal with the drama, the unqualified fellow political appointees, go against their principals, and/or perhaps being asked to do criminal acts or get cuffed by the FBI.
He seems to have very, very few leaks period. Just a few simple statements reguarding who needs to give up what and when, often after threats of him not demanding the same. heh
Aaron Strife
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Fenderputty
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There's quite a few layers to this post that are kinda silly even though I largely agree that we don't put presidents in jail.
Google suggests it is referencing this?
https://www.samaritanspurse.org/article/three-child-survivors-from-tanzania-bus-crash-arrive-in-u-s/
The giraffe is Tanzania's national animal though so who knows what the gorilla is for.
I thought he was trying to reference Harambe.
Well he referenced Africa so I'll give you one guess.
BoboBrazil
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I wonder if we will get alot of "today is the day he became president" once he successfully reads a teleprompter for 10-20 minutes.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Definitely.
Amibguous Cad
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0%. Pence will pardon him if he gets that far, for the same ostensible reason as Nixon got pardoned. And maybe for the best - I don't think either party wants to have a situation where the losing party has a chance of going to jail if they lose (even if they really should be in jail). It's one reason why Trump's justice department hasn't been going after Clinton.
ArkhamFantasy
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A week after he defended nazis that commited a terror attack? I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say no, other than fox of course.
Spoiled Milk
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That's different because Chicago is a warzone.
Is this a joke post? The man may be guilty of sedition or treason. The consequences of just throwing him out of office and slapping a pardon on him would be far greater for future elections and the future of the democracy in general than not allowing him to stand trial.
UberTag
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You think the Republicans/Russians aren't going back to the drawing board and trying to cheat again?
That shit's happening whether Trump gets read the riot act or not.
Here you are lobbying for deterrence in your permanently fucked system. That's cute.
They don't consider the act Trump committed wrong. What they consider wrong is that he was so incompetent that he was caught.
Just like they don't consider his comments backing white supremacy last week to be wrong.
They're just upset that he said them out loud.
Greigor The Fellhand
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What the hell is going on, I step away for a day and have no idea what you guys are talking about
Spoiled Milk
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in other news
I looked up some guy I knew from highschool and he changed his name to a Roman emperor and shaved his head
I looked up some guy I knew from highschool and he changed his name to a Roman emperor and shaved his head
Are you dumb? We don't put presidents in jail because they haven't committed crimes, except for Nixon, which we politely agreed to ignore, which was probably a mistake that is part of how we ended up in the current situation.
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