Aaron Strife
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Dude it happens like, every fucking time. There are valid concerns to be had with Paul's opposition but this constant worrywarting is getting seriously annoying.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT6| Made this thread during Harvey because the ratings would be higher
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RumbleHumble
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It's the opposite of an easy thing to say no to publicly. Remember last time that happened?
BoboBrazil
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That's currently being investigated. Hopefully Zinke loses his job for that, but it is the Trump admin.
Trump probably told him to do it.
nature boy
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Why should she? The current bill has nowhere near 50 votes
I appreciate that boiling the narrative down to a focus on Rand/Murkowski/Collins is making this look like a close battle because at least it keeps people from falling into complacency, but there are still about a dozen senators who are completely silent on this. Show me Capito and Portman acknowledging support for this piece of shit despite their governors loudly opposing it and without even so much as the $45 billion opioid treatment package they demanded for the last effort and I'll start to get worried.
My head is going to explode
Well maybe Capito and Portman intend to vote yes but don't want to take heat for that, so they keep their mouths shut.
People are worried because 49 senators voted on a 4 page paper with 36-point font and triple-spacing last time that was made within 24 hours of the vote.
But they sold that to senators by telling them that they would go to conference and it wouldn't be the final bill.
Yeah.... but do they even have time to go to conference?
Senators damn well knew that if that did not happen they couldve just blamed the house. Most of them probably knew skinny might have just passed as is and were preparing for a blame game. Ryans letter was laughable
Their governors opposed skinny repeal and they voted for that
Having any faith in Capito or Portman is a fools errand.
Nope, they gotta take this one as is.
But according to reports, Ryan was actually willing to take it to conference.
What was stupid about it was the Senate gave up all leverage in the talks cause could have just put that bill up at anytime
BoboBrazil
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Should make a thread.
Beer Monkey
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It's Mueller time.
hoo boy
I hope, beyond all hope, something negative happens to Trump and all of his associates after this investigation is said and done
But, our currently reality us strongly suggesting nothing will happen to Trump's people. Except perhaps Flynn and Manafort.
Mark Andrew
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I think this gets spinned as he had no choice, the deep state is out to get him.
BlastProcessing
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Other subjects, you say?
Go on.
This is massively stupid by Kushner because it gives Mueller a justifiable reason to go through his private email account.
Hell, they both voted for BCRA too.
They would have to do it in the same bill as tax reform. Making it more likely that they get neither. But they are incompetent and desperate so they may well try anyway.
RumbleHumble
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Let's be real, this won't go away until the next full Democratic administration.
metalslimer
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NBA is easily the best league, also without the risk of brain damage.
JesseEwiak
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Judging by Reagan's conversion from Medicare will lead to socialism to I will defend Medicare against the liberals stance, we have to wait until 2028 or so, in a best case scenario.
Aaron Strife
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Or if Democrats win a house of Congress. Then again, Trump's HHS can keep sabotaging the law.
It's so exhausting.
Even then, I can't imagine Republicans will ever stop whining. They just won't be in a position to do anything.
Mark Andrew
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Just wait until Starbucks introduces its new holiday cup design.
And nothing of value was lost when NASCAR fell off the face of the Earth.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Like any of them would have done it anyway.
Doesn't matter if Paul is a no
granted, I don't think Paul is a no
butI don't think Murkowski is a yes. She was silent before the skinny repeal vote too. Nothing has changed to make her vote yes. Still anti-abortion, still anti-medicaid, still fucks over alaska after a grace period
That was basically Collins bill, wasn't it?
Spoiled Milk
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I went to a derby once and the experience was so lasting that I've harbored a desire to move to a different country ever since.
eBay Huckster
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luckily, i'm in a mixed-race family and my dad's consistent enough of a libertarian that he doesn't give two shits about any form of nationalism so the closest blood relation to me that could be saying any problematic shit would be, like, a third cousin or something
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thepotatoman
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My family usually sticks to dog whistles, if only to maintain the illusion to themselves, but just Kaepernick was already enough to get one of them to use the n word before all this. I was so angry I couldn't think straight enough to say anything and left right away, but there's just no arguing with them even with my thoughts straight. I can easily peel away the dog whistles with logical arguments, but once you reveal the hateful core what do you do? I'm glad I'm not around them today.
With them, there's something about black athletes in particular that they have a very short fuse with. I really don't know why. Jealousy I guess.
AntraxSuicide
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Most of my family voted Trump except my mom, who I got to vote for the Constitution Party guy. She's an end-times, Revelations-style evangelical though, and she hates Trump. She'd have voted Cruz if he won the nomination.
balladofwindfishes
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All of my family are deep blue liberals. Other than extended family, but I don't see them enough to care.
Bonen no Max'd
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Pretty much all of my family is pretty conservative but none of them voted Trump, thankfully. My mom voted for Johnson (who she didn't really know about but was the most respectable alternative to two candidates she loathed), my brother and his wife voted McMullin I think, and my dad wrote in his own name.
I doubt they're having a non-reactionary response to the protests but my dad has surprised me before on issues like the Confederacy so I suppose it's possible.
I doubt they're having a non-reactionary response to the protests but my dad has surprised me before on issues like the Confederacy so I suppose it's possible.
Mark Andrew
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I literally never want to hear that we're snowflakes ever again.
My parents are both liberal, and the "family" as we'd otherwise define it (my mom and dad's brothers and sisters and their progeny, my cousins) is mixed, but we all know enough not to talk about it because we're the kind of polite white people who'll never bring up anything controversial unless we're sure everyone's on the same page.
Either that or some bad arguments during my teenage years just clued everyone else in to steer clear of me on politics
. But i've mellowed considerably since then (while simultaneously getting more woke).
Either that or some bad arguments during my teenage years just clued everyone else in to steer clear of me on politics
. But i've mellowed considerably since then (while simultaneously getting more woke).Yeah, but liberals are the ones who are always OUTRAGED AND OFFENDED by something.
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