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PoliGAF 2nd Pres. Debate 2008 Thread (DOW dropping, Biden is off to Home Depot)

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TDG

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reilo said:
Talk about desperation and panic. Also, those polls clearly show Bush ahead. So what exactly are you trying to prove here?
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Only three of the five polls show Bush ahead, and by a very small margin. Kerry wasn't doing very well in most polls pre-debates, but he made it close and took the lead in most polls after the debates. Things evened out, and eventually gave Bush an edge in most polls. On election day, the exit polls seemed to show that Kerry would win.

I don't think that "don't count your chickens before they hatch" is an unreasonable message at this point.

XxenobladerxX said:
What will be the subject in the next debate?
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The economy.
 
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ryutaro's mama

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tanod said:
That would put the official wheel count of the Straight Talk Express at approximately -352.7.
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See, the sad part is, when you proclaim that you are gonna "whup your opponent's arse", you leave yourself open to a lot of critizism if you only pull even.

I mean, is he gonna whup him by talking about the economy? Good luck on that.

Will he go off-topic and bring up Rev. Wright and/or Ayers? Again, good luck with that.

So much for speaking softly and carrying a big stick like his hero (not named Reagan) Roosevelt.
 
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Slurpy

*drowns in jizz*
The Chosen One said:
Or rather Obama needs to say something incredibly stupid that causes a huge backlash.

Even if Obama has a mediocre debate and McCain has a great performance, I still don't think that will be enough. Obama/Biden have won the first three debates 3-0. Losing one won't be a game-changer because they'll still have a 3-1 edge. Meaning people may just think Obama had a bad day instead of thinking he is unqualified. It was the first debate that McCain needed to land the death-blow. The Obama Genie is out of the bottle now.

McCain needs to hope that he can come out of this debate maybe gaining a couple of percentage points in the polls. Then pray for some outside event that dramatically swings things in his favor. It took about 3-4 weeks for Obama to build this lead. If McCain wants to catch up, he literally needs to start reversing the trend tomorrow.
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The McCain camp must be hoping and praying for a major gaffe by Obama in the final debate, which they can then exploit the hell out of, distort, and create a anew narrative from. I have a feeling its not gonna happen.

And LOL at McCain's loud-mouthing... just like you kicked his ass in the last 2 debates, right? Reminds me of that kid in school that would keep coming back saying hed kick your ass after you give him beatdown after beatdown.
 
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ryutaro's mama

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Incognito said:
some of the concern trolling taking place is really irritating
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Naw, I don't think it's concern trolling.

For many, it seems like things are lining up and Obama's path to victory is a forgone conclusion.

It seems too easy and that worries them.

It's valid, man.
 
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reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
What many people seem to think [especially the ones praying for a McCain comeback] is that every person polled from now until the end of the election is an "undecided" the moment they pick up the phone. Like they haven't made up their mind before the pollster called, and they will somehow miraculously change their mind from now until that moment.

Guess fucking again: None of them are undecideds. At best, a tiny insignificant percentage of people polled is. Somehow this notion that McCain will reverse people's minds at this point in the election is a bit superfluous. The time for him to change people's minds was a month ago.

The number of undecideds is shrinking by the hour.
 
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TDG

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Incognito said:
some of the concern trolling taking place is really irritating
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It's not trolling, I'd call it "being reasonable." For example, I am still concerned about the election and am expressing it, just as I expressed to many people how there was no reason to be freaking out after the RNC because McCain was only experiencing a post-convention bump, and that the tide wasn't actually turning.
 
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Slurpy said:
The McCain camp must be hoping and praying for a major gaffe by Obama in the final debate, which they can then exploit the hell out of, distort, and create a anew narrative from. I have a feeling its not gonna happen.

And LOL at McCain's loud-mouthing... just like you kicked his ass in the last 2 debates, right? Reminds me of that kid in school that would keep coming back saying hed kick your ass after you give him beatdown after beatdown.
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McCain = Wimp Lo

[Chosen One kicks Wimp-Lo in the face. Wimp-Lo does a pose]
Wimp Lo: Ha! Face to foot style, how do you like it?
Chosen One: I'm sure on some planet your style is impressive, but your weak link is: this is Earth.
Wimp Lo: Oh yeah? Then try my nuts to your fist style!
 
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blame space

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Just when I thought I couldn't support Obama any more, he goes and puts "Fake Empire" by The National in his Youtube video (the one Amir0x linked to).

And it fits perfectly. Amazing. :D
 
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TDG

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reilo said:
What many people seem to think [especially the ones praying for a McCain comeback] is that every person polled from now until the end of the election is an "undecided" the moment they pick up the phone. Like they haven't made up their mind before the pollster called, and they will somehow miraculously change their mind from now until that moment.

Guess fucking again: None of them are undecideds. At best, a tiny insignificant percentage of people polled is. Somehow this notion that McCain will reverse people's minds at this point in the election is a bit superfluous. The time for him to change people's minds was a month ago.

The number of undecideds is shrinking by the hour.
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Well outside of the fact that there's plenty of time for many people to be swayed, an even bigger concern is the voting itself. People vote, not poll numbers.
 
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Flesh Into Gear

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soul creator said:
McCain = Wimp Lo

[Chosen One kicks Wimp-Lo in the face. Wimp-Lo does a pose]
Wimp Lo: Ha! Face to foot style, how do you like it?
Chosen One: I'm sure on some planet your style is impressive, but your weak link is: this is Earth.
Wimp Lo: Oh yeah? Then try my nuts to your fist style!
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I am bleeding, making me the victor
 
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reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
TDG said:
Well outside of the fact that there's plenty of time for many people to be swayed, an even bigger concern is the voting itself. People vote, not poll numbers.
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There was a graph posted of the percentage of people that actually changed their minds from one candidate to the other with less than a month to go.

Ultimately, it was statistically insignificant. I'm sure someone here knows what I'm talking about and will repost it.
 
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Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
The debate is McCain's last chance. The RNC is bailing hardcore if he doesn't win like superhardcore.

The RNCC is risking a number of Congressional seats by keeping Bernie propped up for another weekend.
 
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kkaabboomm

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http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Sitting_on_it.html?showall
I, like most reporters, chase a lot of tips; I've made calls on plausible stories that, if confirmed, would damage one candidate or the other. But while the blogosphere sometimes reports by starting with a tip or a theory (Obama didn't write his own book! Palin didn't bear her own child!) and testing it by making it public, I'm old-fashioned enough not to print what I can't confirm. I'm not even entirely sure which of the tips I've chased those blogs are referring to (if this rumor has any basis in reality at all), though I have a guess.
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everyone loves figuring things out -- what do you think he's talking about?
 
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Tobor

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TDG said:
It's not trolling, I'd call it "being reasonable." For example, I am still concerned about the election and am expressing it, just as I expressed to many people how there was no reason to be freaking out after the RNC because McCain was only experiencing a post-convention bump, and that the tide wasn't actually turning.
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I'm only concerned at this point with fraud. In a straight up fight, McCain is beyond finished.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Stoney Mason said:
Boy you are just a trainwreck of stupid today aren't you...
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Late in the HD format war, Nico showed up spouting all manner of dumb bait. Now he does the same as the election seems to be lopsided as well.

He's a joke/troll character, period.
 
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AniHawk

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A little OT, ever since PoliGAF became the official name for the US election threads in April, there have been:

-18 threads
-150,892 posts (11,569 for this one as of right now)
-4,692,570 views (446,564 for this one as of right now)
-an average of 8,383 posts per thread
-an average of 260,698 views per thread

The largest PoliGAF thread was [PoliGAF Interim Thread of cunning stunts and desperate punts] (25k posts, 811k views).
 
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Tobor

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This thread is a real echo chamber. The same videos being posted over and over again. I should probably check in less often.

AniHawk said:
I'm concerned with disenfranchisement and violence.
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That's up to McCain, and how he wants his legacy written. I had hopes after Friday that he would do the right thing, but now...I just don't know.
 
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kkaabboomm

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Tobor said:
This thread is a real echo chamber. The same videos being posted over and over again. I should probably check in less often.
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on slow news days/weekends/etc yeah the same couple of videos/etc show up. during the week more real news is made and thus things dont get echoed as much
 
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
AniHawk said:
A little OT, ever since PoliGAF became the official name for the US election threads in April, there have been:

-18 threads
-150,892 posts (11,569 for this one as of right now)
-4,692,570 views (446,564 for this one as of right now)
-an average of 8,383 posts per thread
-an average of 260,698 views per thread

The largest PoliGAF thread was [PoliGAF Interim Thread of cunning stunts and desperate punts] (25k posts, 811k views).
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but how many bannings?
 
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grandjedi6

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AniHawk said:
A little OT, ever since PoliGAF became the official name for the US election threads in April, there have been:

-18 threads
-150,892 posts (11,569 for this one as of right now)
-4,692,570 views (446,564 for this one as of right now)
-an average of 8,383 posts per thread
-an average of 260,698 views per thread

The largest PoliGAF thread was [PoliGAF Interim Thread of cunning stunts and desperate punts] (25k posts, 811k views).
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The largest PoliGAF thread also has the 3rd most views and 3rd most replies in OT gaf history (8th and 7th overall) :O
 
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GhaleonEB

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Stoney Mason said:
We'll see tomorrow with the national polling. If it trends Mccain again that means there is definitely a potential trend in effect. The state polling always will trail that. Not saying it's suddenly a close race or anything but as usual I never share the GAF confidence in 538 Pac Man charts.
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I'll bite. What on earth are you talking about?
 
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TDG

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reilo said:
Don't forget CoolTrick!
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Who was that one Obama fan that kept talking about Hilldawg running out of money, everybody laughed at him, he got banned, and then ended up being right? Lefty something?
 
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AniHawk

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TDG said:
Who was that one Obama fan that kept talking about Hilldawg running out of money, everybody laughed at him, he got banned, and then ended up being right? Lefty something?
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Lefty42o

Yeah. He returned and everyone praised him for being right and then he was banned again.
 
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reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
TDG said:
Who was that one Obama fan that kept talking about Hilldawg running out of money, everybody laughed at him, he got banned, and then ended up being right? Lefty something?
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Lefty42o

Also, CoolTrick was the ultimate "victim card" member. He played that shit like a flute.

I remember he was debating me, proclaiming that Hillary was gonna win Oregon, because she won California, because the demographics favored her [???], and since kept close in the Washington general primary [which was literally useless]. Fun stuff.
 
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Amir0x

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To be fair, Lefty got banned for being an insufferable asstard, not for saying Hillary was out of money all the time.

CoolTrick gets no sympathize for me. He hid his closet racism in thinly veiled talking points.
 
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kkaabboomm

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Tobor said:
I think Stoney is trying to maintain the high levels of PoliGAF posts. aka. "pulling a Chuck Todd"
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was chuck on tv today spouting chuck-todd-esque knowledge? or is he saving his 'im going to pimp surface and update my map' spiel for tomorrow?
 
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AniHawk

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reilo said:
Lefty42o

Also, CoolTrick was the ultimate "victim card" member. He played that shit like a flute.

I remember he was debating me, proclaiming that Hillary was gonna win Oregon, because she won California, because the demographics favored her [???], and since kept close in the Washington general primary [which was literally useless]. Fun stuff.
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CoolTrick would pull that shit over in media create threads too. Just as cheesemeister and crew were starting to post the nice graphs and such in the OP, he would make a thread with one or two games of the top 30 and translate the rest later, just so he could be first. And then he'd cry about it in the real topic.
 
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reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Amir0x said:
Election Night PoliGAF thread will be LOLOLOLOL, that's all I'm going to say. Fastest moving thread of all time? Seems so.
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You're either gonna end up banning all of the six total right-wingers on the forum, or half of the left-wingers.
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CoolTrick would pull that shit over in media create threads too. Just as cheesemeister and crew were starting to post the nice graphs and such in the OP, he would make a thread with one or two games of the top 30 and translate the rest later, just so he could be first. And then he'd cry about it in the real topic.
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I remember that! So funny.
 
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Servizio

I don't really need a tag, but I figured I'd get one to make people jealous. Is it working?
Door2Dawn bit the dust too. There was a handful of VP debate folks who went down for sexist remarks as well.
 
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