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PoliGAF 2nd Pres. Debate 2008 Thread (DOW dropping, Biden is off to Home Depot)

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sykoex

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Deus Ex Machina

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Photos: Obama canvasses a neighborhood in Holland, Ohio

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Sun Oct 12, 3:13 PM ET
Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., right, and his communications director Robert Gibbs arrive at the airport in Swanton, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

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Sun Oct 12, 3:14 PM ET
US Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) takes off his jacket after stepping off his campaign plane in Swanton, Ohio, October 12, 2008. REUTERS/Jim Young (UNITED STATES) US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN 2008 (USA)

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US Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)(R) shares a laugh with communication director Robert Gibbs as they step off his campaign plane in Swanton, Ohio, October 12, 2008. REUTERS/Jim Young (UNITED STATES) US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN 2008(USA)

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Sun Oct 12, 4:28 PM ET
Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., center, talks to supporters as he campaigns in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)


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Sun Oct 12, 4:28 PM ET
Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., center, talks to supporters as he campaigns in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)


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Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., right, kisses Angela Zimmann as he campaigns in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)


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Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., right, shakes hands as he campaigns in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)


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Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., center, campaigns in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)


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Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., right, walks with local field organizer Kimberly Heretick as he campaigns in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)


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Sun Oct 12, 4:54 PM ET
Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., pats a dog as he campaigns in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)


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Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., right, laughs as he greets supporters in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)


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US Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) gets a hug from a supporter as he canvasses a neighbourhood in Holland, Ohio, October 12, 2008. REUTERS/Jim Young (UNITED STATES) US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN 2008(USA)


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US Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) (2nd R) speaks to voters as he canvasses a neighbourhood in Holland, Ohio, October 12, 2008. REUTERS/Jim Young (UNITED STATES) US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN 2008(USA)


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Sun Oct 12, 4:56 PM ET
US Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) speaks to voters as he canvasses a neighbourhood in Holland, Ohio, October 12, 2008. REUTERS/Jim Young (UNITED STATES) US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN 2008(USA)


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Sun Oct 12, 4:56 PM ET
US Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) speaks to voters as he canvasses a neighbourhood in Holland, Ohio, October 12, 2008. REUTERS/Jim Young (UNITED STATES) US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN 2008(USA)


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Sun Oct 12, 5:04 PM ET
Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., right, poses with Angela Zimmann as he campaigns in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)


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Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., waves to supporters as he campaigns in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)


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Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., right, poses with supporters as he campaigns in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)


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US Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) (C) speaks to a potential voter as he canvasses a neighbourhood in Holland, Ohio October 12, 2008. REUTERS/Jim Young (UNITED STATES) US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN 2008(USA)


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Sun Oct 12, 5:09 PM ET
Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., campaigns in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)


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US Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) speaks to a potential voter as he canvasses a neighbourhood in Holland, Ohio October 12, 2008. REUTERS/Jim Young (UNITED STATES) US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN 2008(USA)
 
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Suikoguy said:
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Eh, I dunno. I had a 5% chance to hit that enemy in Fire Emblem yesterday, and what do you know? I did it.

Bad news for Obama. :(
 
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
how sad is it I went to stuff the boxes on a kids pick the president poll, and then was disappointed when the poll wasnt up yet?
 
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Cloudy

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Guys, now that the thread is a bit slow, I asked someone to repost the blog of the military guy from VA (his first name is Pat IIRC). He was a Hilary guy but now supports Obama. I'm curious to read his recent posts..
 
mckmas8808

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Bill Clinton just finished his speech at VCU (College in Virginia) just now. My cousin runs the building that Bill was talking in or outside of.

He said there was like 6,000 people there and hype everybody up to vote for Obama.
 
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titiklabingapat

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Tideas said:
I find that come election day, a lot of these polls are gonna be very wrong.

maybe it's just me being a pessimistic
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Alot of them will be wrong, but I think most will still side with Obama. He has what I would call the "winning bounce", with his lower ends near McCain's higher performances.
 
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GhaleonEB

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Shiggie said:
WTF? where is this playing?
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I think that's from the 2006 cycle, where Harold Ford lost by a very small margin. It's a notoriously blatant racial ad; I hadn't seen it in a while and had forgotten how bad it was. :\
 
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Gruco

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GhaleonEB said:
I think that's from the 2006 cycle, where Harold Ford lost by a very small margin. It's a notoriously blatant racial ad; I hadn't seen it in a while and had forgotten how bad it was. :\
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Yep. It was really the only loss of the night too. Harold Ford does kinda suck now though.
 
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Gruco said:
Yep. It was really the only loss of the night too. Harold Ford does kinda suck now though.
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funny you should mention it...
http://www.thenextright.com/patrick-ruffini/save-the-filibuster

"In 2006, the RNC was able to come to the rescue of these committees. In one case, I believe one of their independent expenditures tipped the outcome with their humorous, effective, and perfectly legitimate ad against Harold Ford in Tennessee."
 
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speculawyer

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Deus Ex Machina said:
Photos: Obama canvasses a neighborhood in Holland, Ohio

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Sun Oct 12, 5:09 PM ET
Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., campaigns in Holland, Ohio, Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008.(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)
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Wouldn't it freak you out if McCain or Obama was just walking along in your neighborhood?
 
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Gruco

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Yeah, I get that in a statewide race in TN he's not exactly going to be a firebrand, but I just remember way too many comments from him complaining about Dean's leadership in the DNC, or the party being too liberal or whatever.
 
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From Nate's 538 update of Today's Polls:

As has been true for most of the post-convention period, Barack Obama appears to have a structural edge in the Electoral College. Colorado is a big part of that. Presently, we are showing a lead for Obama of about 6.5 points in the national popular vote (our model assumes the race will tighten a bit, so we're expecting that number to fall to 5.4 points by Election Day).

But if you look at our current estimates in the individual states -- this is the 'snapshot' line in the polling table -- you'll see that we have Obama ahead by at least 8 points in all of the Kerry states, plus the Gore add-ons of Iowa and New Mexico, plus Colorado, plus Virginia. Collectively, those states are worth 286 electoral votes -- well more than Obama needs to win. So while McCain has something like a 6-7 point deficit to make up in the popular vote, the gap is more like 8 points in any set of states that would give him a winning electoral combination.
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That's a deeeep hole.
 
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Tamanon

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Gruco said:
Yeah, I get that in a statewide race in TN he's not exactly going to be a firebrand, but I just remember way too many comments from him complaining about Dean's leadership in the DNC, or the party being too liberal or whatever.
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Hey, he is the head of the DLC after all, he's going to be at odds with the Dean portion constantly.
 
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Rur0ni

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23 days or so... So very close. Tad over 3 weeks. Not much to do after next debate. Assuming Obama wins undecided again. Especially since next debate is pure economy or whatnot.
 
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Stoney Mason

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TheKingsCrown said:
I'll believe it when it's November 5th.
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We'll see tomorrow with the national polling. If it trends Mccain again that means there is definitely a potential trend in effect. The state polling always will trail that. Not saying it's suddenly a close race or anything but as usual I never share the GAF confidence in 538 Pac Man charts.
 
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