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[Kildace]

Of course they don't care when, but Obama's campaign has to care because they have to set the table for next week's convention and they have to push the choice in front of J6P. It's precisely BECAUSE they don't care that Obama's campaign has to get as much exposure so that they reach as much of the masses as possible with the joint ticket with Biden. So the timing doesn't matter with us, since we already have and will continue to saturate ourselves with info on Obama/Biden, but the fact is that there are only 70 some odd days left and every day is valuable and they just wasted a week of valuable Obama/Biden coverage.

I'm quite sure that this was the original plan and that the only reason it didn't happen is Housegate. I think that the Obama campaign decided to take advantage of it and they managed to set the narrative and try out the democratic message machine that is now much more efficient than it was in 2004.
Having spent Thursday and Friday morning talking about this, they probably decided that instead of a half-assed rollout on Friday afternoon they'd rather set the pace and build on the excitement on Saturday. I bet that the Springfield event will get great ratings since it'll be fresh on everyone's mind thanks to the text message.

I think it's a good decision. If you've already got an edge thanks to a gaffe there's no use burning your VP card early. What they did will lead to even denser coverage on Biden before and throughout the convention.

 

[laserbeam]

That's true. I think sometimes we lose perspective, and forget that most people are not F5ing on forums for the latest VP news.

Most arent holding their cell phones dieing for a text message either.

 

[adamsappel]

Still nothing? Dagnabit!

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

I'm quite sure that this was the original plan and that the only reason it didn't happen is Housegate. I think that the Obama campaign decided to take advantage of it and they managed to set the narrative and try out the democratic message machine that is now much more efficient than it was in 2004.
Having spent Thursday and Friday morning talking about this, they probably decided that instead of a half-assed rollout on Friday afternoon they'd rather set the pace and build on the excitement on Saturday. I bet that the Springfield event will get great ratings since it'll be fresh on everyone's mind thanks to the text message.

I think it's a good decision. If you've already got an edge thanks to a gaffe there's no use burning your VP card early. What they did will lead to even denser coverage on Biden before and throughout the convention.

I'm almost positive that is why it didn't run. McCain giftwrapped them ammo.

 

[laserbeam]

Still nothing? Dagnabit!

Secret Service is enroute to Bidens. So unless he was threatened by some crazy he is the man

 

[Karma Kramer]

CNN has LIVE UPDATE!

 

[Lemonz]

I look forward to Biden speaking tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHdSahEsIC4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyxi0T37JmY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpPR4VPt47I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Y8AFctpjo

 

[VanMardigan]

Which means the far majority of the public will first learn of Obama's pick from Obama's text message (if it comes early enough)

No, the vast majority of people did not sign for Obama's text message, not even close, and will likely hear this news second hand sometime this weekend (which is NOT how you want to roll out a VP), since there are not widely watched weekend evening news broadcasts.

So, most of America will receive the news from someone else or hear a glimpse on tv/radio, but won't get a proper introduction until the evening news on Monday, by which time the Convention will dominate coverage. So Biden will get his first real exposure on the day he speaks, and the campaign will have failed to properly roll out the Obama/Biden brand until AFTER the convention, having wasted valuable days playing cocktease with the media after it was confirmed that Obama had already made his pick.

 

[TDG]

Poor Hootie. He was so enthusiastic about someone who never actually had any chance.

Here, I'll give you some hope that this Biden thing is fake:

 

[reilo]

No, the vast majority of people did not sign for Obama's text message, not even close, and will likely hear this news second or third hand sometime this weekend, since there are not widely watched weekend evening news broadcasts.

So, most of America will receive the news from someone else or hear a glimpse on tv/radio, but won't get a proper introduction until the evening news on Monday, by which time the Convention will dominate coverage. So Biden will get his first real exposure on the day he speaks, and the campaign will have failed to properly roll out the Obama/Biden brand until AFTER the convention, having wasted valuable days playing cocktease with the media after it was confirmed that Obama had already made his pick.

Dude, you're overthinking this.

 

[Hootie]

Poor Hootie. He was so enthusiastic about someone who never actually had any chance.

Still....hope....still.....

I will believe until the very end. Until I see Biden or somebody else with Obama on the stage tomorrow there is still a chance!!1!

 

[siamesedreamer]

Most arent holding their cell phones dieing for a text message either.

Seriously...

Has the Obama camp even released the number of people who signed up for the text?

I gotta give them credit for creating such an awesome ploy to add cell phone numbers to their database though.

 

[reilo]

Seriously...

Has the Obama camp even released the number of people who signed up for the text?

I gotta give them credit for creating such an awesome ploy to add cell phone numbers to their database.

CNN reported it would take 4 hours to compile all of the numbers in the program that would send out all of the text messages at once.

 

[speculawyer]

I pissed at the Obama campaign if it is Biden since they let someone else break the story. They held out too long . . . they should have got the text message out before anyone else figured it out.

 

[besada]

Sweet. Bring on the Bidenator.

 

[Karma Kramer]

I am actually really really happy about this. Biden was actually my favorite democrat in the primaries... so this makes me extremely happy.

Personally I think Clark would have been better for winning the election... but Biden is definitely as good if not better as a VP.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Seriously...

Has the Obama camp even released the number of people who signed up for the text?

I gotta give them credit for creating such an awesome ploy to add cell phone numbers to their database though.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/22/texting-texting-one-two-three/

The campaign estimates over three million people have signed up to receive a text message declaring Obama’s running mate

 

[Guts Of Thor]

After watching that Biden video, I have a feeling that it's going to be open season on McCain after the convention.

 

[Frank the Great]

Yay Biden!

Hopefully I will wake up to hear the official news.

The only downside is that smug talking heads such as Andrea Mitchell will be patting themselves on the back for predicting Biden. I'm still kind of holding out for a surprise for this very reason...

 

[Karma Kramer]

Yay Biden!

Hopefully I will wake up to hear the official news.

The only downside is that smug talking heads such as Andrea Mitchell will be patting themselves on the back for predicting Biden. I'm still kind of holding out for a surprise for this very reason...

Yeah it wold have been great if it was someone from left-field so the media looks even more retarded :lol

edit:

Footage of Biden and his mother at his house... on CNN right now.

John King is aweome btw...

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

After watching that Biden video, I have a feeling that it's going to be open season on McCain after the convention.

Yeah, an attack dog. Feisty as fuck.

 

[mckmas8808]

CNN just caught Joe Biden walking into his house in Deleware!!!!!

It's not Biden. :O

 

[ZealousD]

they will counter with

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJnC28lNQSo

"I would be honored to run with or against John McCain because I think the country would be better off.."

August 2, 2005

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=125441&title=joe-biden-pt,-2

 

[giga]

I can understand the Biden choice--he can tear it up on those debates.

 

[Frank the Great]

CNN just caught Joe Biden walking into his house in Deleware!!!!!

It's not Biden. :O

Are you serious? LAWL

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

CNN just caught Joe Biden walking into his house in Deleware!!!!!

It's not Biden. :O

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


This shit might be fucking crazy

 

[Karma Kramer]

CNN just caught Joe Biden walking into his house in Deleware!!!!!

It's not Biden. :O

What?

Just cause he's in Delaware doesn't mean he isn't it. A plane ride to Chicago is only like 2-3 hours.

 

[VanMardigan]

I think it's a good decision. If you've already got an edge thanks to a gaffe there's no use burning your VP card early. What they did will lead to even denser coverage on Biden before and throughout the convention.

Dense, but at the wrong time because it's the weekend and will simply not command the same attention. The Sprinfield event will be big but it won't have the type of saturation and coverage that you get from evening news/political shows/daily newspapers. And "throughout the convention" is not the best time to get the direct coverage on Biden. At least one week too late imo on the coverage, and there is so little time left overall.

Oh well, I'm dropping the subject. I just thought it was handled poorly, though by no means do I think it's will have a major impact, or at least I hope it doesn't contribute the string of bad moves (no negative attacks, vacation, soft stance on Russia) that have allowed the McCain camp to claw into a race they have no business being close in.

 

[Hootie]

Has there been any confirmation that everybody except Biden is definitely not the VP? Clark still has a shot! Maybe them sending SS to Biden's house is all a huge diversion to get the media to mob his house while Obama and Clark go to Illinois!

Yes...yes that's it. You bitches will all be owned come tomorrow. Hootie will be redeemed!

CNN just caught Joe Biden walking into his house in Deleware!!!!!

It's not Biden. :O

AHAHAHAHAHA YES! CLARK AM GET!!

 

[GhaleonEB]

CNN just caught Joe Biden walking into his house in Deleware!!!!!

It's not Biden. :O

Maybe he's taking an early flight?

Earlier today they used his brother as a decoy. Could have been him! :lol

 

[Synth_floyd]

Wow, I'm a total McCain convert now. He says if he's elected he'll do Prime Minister's Questions in the congress. That'd be awesome!

 

[Karma Kramer]

Wow, I'm a total McCain convert now. He says if he's elected he'll do Prime Minister's Questions in the congress. That'd be awesome!

haha... wtf time warp

 

[Xisiqomelir]

If

Spoiler

when

we find out the "SS leak" is fake tomorrow, can we ban ABC?

 

[The Chosen One]

What's nice is that even a McCain supporter on Larry King Live gave the Obama campaign props for managing to keep the media in the dark without any leaks.

It's rare to see this much discipline from a democrat campaign...

 

[siamesedreamer]

3 million is a lot better than I thought. Good for them. They're gonna have to hire a whole bunch more workers to keep up with calling y'all asking for more money.

And on that note:

U of IL to release Obama's Chicago Annenberg Challenge records

 

[reilo]

If

Spoiler

when

we find out the "SS leak" is fake tomorrow, can we ban ABC?

Yeah, only one reporting on it is a blog post on ABC News. And with live coverage of Biden's house, we haven't seen any SS show up.

3 million is a lot better than I thought. Good for them. They're gonna have to hire a whole bunch more workers to keep up with calling y'all asking for more money.

And on that note:

U of IL to release Obama's Chicago Annenberg Challenge records

BUT YOU SAID HE WAS HIDING SOMETHING

 

[mckmas8808]

Seriously...

Has the Obama camp even released the number of people who signed up for the text?

I gotta give them credit for creating such an awesome ploy to add cell phone numbers to their database though.

Isn't that what it's all about though?

 

[tanod]

What's nice is that even a McCain supporter on Larry King Live gave the Obama campaign props for managing to keep the media in the dark without any leaks.

It's rare to see this much discipline from a democrat campaign...

No kidding. Between the VP and the 7 houses thing, they're firing on all cylinders. It's about time, they got an effective surrogate policy in place.

 

[besada]

Wow, I'm a total McCain convert now. He says if he's elected he'll do Prime Minister's Questions in the congress. That'd be awesome!

Except he'd have to get Congress's permission to do so. There's only one constitutionally mandated address to Congress. Anything else, Congress has to request and authorize.

It would be hilarious to watch John McCain attempt to do it, though.

 

[Karma Kramer]

Its got to be Biden... if it isn't I will seriously ROFL.

 

[siamesedreamer]

BUT YOU SAID HE WAS HIDING SOMETHING

I did?

 

[Hootie]

Its got to be Biden... if it isn't I will seriously ROFL.

You will ROFL tomorrow when Obama shocks the world (not me though!) when he announces General Mother Fracking Wesley Clark as the VP!

 

[mckmas8808]

Maybe he's taking an early flight?

Earlier today they used his brother as a decoy. Could have been him! :lol

Biden is stuck now. 5,000 cameras now watch his every move. The second he leaves the house the media will run that fool down and the secert would be out.

 

[Karma Kramer]

You will ROFL tomorrow when Obama shocks the world (not me though!) when he announces General Mother Fracking Wesley Clark as the VP!

Dude lol.... you are fucking hilarious :lol

I hope your right...

 

[GhaleonEB]

Biden is stuck now. 5,000 cameras now watch his every move. The second he leaves the house the media will run that fool down and the secert would be out.

Maybe they'll text the message early in the morning, right before he leaves.

 

[reilo]

I wish someone would do a count of how many times the name "Biden" was mentioned by all of the outlets today.

 

[Hootie]

Dude lol.... you are fucking hilarious :lol

I hope your right...

I know I'm adding some stupid humor to my posts but I'd really like Obama to surprise everyone with Clark. GAF would implode and I would lick up everyone's bitter bitter tears. Especially Dax's.

 

[mckmas8808]

Maybe they'll text the message early in the morning, right before he leaves.

That's possible. But where's the SS at ABC?! The media loses again.

 

[reilo]

I know I'm adding some stupid humor to my posts but I'd really like Obama to surprise everyone with Clark. GAF would implode and I would lick up everyone's bitter bitter tears. Especially Dax's.

And I'd get all of the credit for throwing out Clark's name Win-win for me.

 

[Hootie]

And I'd get all of the credit for throwing out Clark's name Win-win for me.

*high fives*