Actually, I blame talk radio. It's 99% bullshit that's pushed as 100% fact. Bring back the Fairness doctrine.Rugasuki said:This is why democracy only works with an educated and informed public. The media and public school systems have failed us.
Cloudy said:Obama camp needs to clarify the issues on their tax plan. That's what's keeping this close. McCain keeps lying about it and they need to make it clear and keep pounding it...
polyh3dron said:I take it it's OK for Incognito to pull that shit simply so he can live up to his tag..
mernst23 said:So I might have missed this in a previous post, but which polls are done primarily by landline and which ones include cell phone samples?
Stoney Mason said:+1 is very damn good considering that was a very strong Mccain weak and a half.
Timing is everything when pulling off a joke.Incognito said:It was too good to pass up. Half the forum freaking out over an expected McCain bounce and all I had do was wait for 5:30...
What, in a thread already overrun with panic? Incognito isn't the one ruining the thread.polyh3dron said:I take it it's OK for Incognito to pull that shit simply so he can live up to his tag..
polyh3dron said:I take it it's OK for Incognito to pull that shit simply so he can live up to his tag..
Agreed. Obama and Biden MUST hammer this point home in both ads and the debates.Cloudy said:Obama camp needs to clarify the issues on their tax plan. That's what's keeping this close. McCain keeps lying about it and they need to make it clear and keep pounding it...
Amir0x said:WHY CANT OBAMA SEAL THE DEAL
Really, this thing is going to maybe trend McCain for a little bit longer, and probably steer back Obama... but he is really gonna have to do this thing at the debates.
He has to really shut him up. Don't let him pass off cheap talking points as legitimate conversation. Biden must be gentle with Palin, but still cut her off from her attempt to deify herself as a 'maverick.'
He needs to carry that picture of Sarah with her Nowhere, Alaska shirt and show to the camera like Carville did with the Wasilla town hall.DeaconKnowledge said:Paul Begala rips MSM, Republican operative for flat-out lying about Palins record
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/...ative-for-flat-out-lying-about-palins-record/
Video at the link.
edit: also, wasn't there supposed to be a convention bump? Why are people panicking?
Hitokage said:What, in a thread already overrun with panic? Incognito isn't the one ruining the thread.
People shouldn't get so worked up over it in the first place.
WedgeX said:Wait a sec.....
I think considering the idiotic freaking out that was already going on, being fooled might be a great way to get some people to step back and apply some perspective to polls in the future.polyh3dron said:I take it it's OK for Incognito to pull that shit simply so he can live up to his tag..
Hitokage said:What, in a thread already overrun with panic? Incognito isn't the one ruining the thread.
People shouldn't get so worked up over it in the first place.
BobLoblaw said:Agreed. Obama and Biden MUST hammer this point home in both ads and the debates.
Amir0x said:Don't let him pass off cheap talking points as legitimate conversation.
September 09, 2008
Categories: Barack Obama
Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
Amie Parnes reports from Lebanon, VA:
Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin's new "change" mantra.
"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said as the crowd cheered. "It's still a pig."
"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."
"We've had enough of the same old thing."
The crowd apparently took the "lipstick" line as a reference to Palin, who described the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull in a single word: "lipstick."
Touchdown said:alright who just saw that sick sex ad from the McCain camp? that's disgusting and the most vile thing I've ever seen. A man that has 2 little girls. That's messed up.
gkrykewy said:Haha, I presume Obama's "lipstick on a pig" quip was discussed?
Touchdown said:alright who just saw that sick sex ad from the McCain camp? that's disgusting and the most vile thing I've ever seen. A man that has 2 little girls. That's messed up.
BenjaminBirdie said:
BenjaminBirdie said:
That's me. I'm the fish.Incognito said::lol
gkrykewy said:Haha, I presume Obama's "lipstick on a pig" quip was discussed?
Touchdown said:alright who just saw that sick sex ad from the McCain camp? that's disgusting and the most vile thing I've ever seen. A man that has 2 little girls. That's messed up.
Touchdown said:alright who just saw that sick sex ad from the McCain camp? that's disgusting and the most vile thing I've ever seen. A man that has 2 little girls. That's messed up.
SEXIST!!!!1Tamanon said:He was just out talking about McCain/Palin talking about change and reform and said "you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig" and "you wrap and old fish in new paper and call it change, you can still smell the old fish"
Tamanon said:He was just out talking about McCain/Palin talking about change and reform and said "you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig" and "you wrap and old fish in new paper and call it change, you can still smell the old fish"
Touchdown said:alright who just saw that sick sex ad from the McCain camp? that's disgusting and the most vile thing I've ever seen. A man that has 2 little girls. That's messed up.
WTF?Touchdown said:alright who just saw that sick sex ad from the McCain camp? that's disgusting and the most vile thing I've ever seen. A man that has 2 little girls. That's messed up.
Touchdown said:alright who just saw that sick sex ad from the McCain camp? that's disgusting and the most vile thing I've ever seen. A man that has 2 little girls. That's messed up.
schuelma said:I realize Obama feels they have to respond, but this is very very risky.
John McCain of all people is the one of the four appearing to be above the fray. That's not good, and it's not good for Obama to be spending much of his airtime attacking the GOP's VP nominee.
Ok everyone, tell me why I'm completely wrong. :lol :lol
schuelma said:I realize Obama feels they have to respond, but this is very very risky.
John McCain of all people is the one of the four appearing to be above the fray. That's not good, and it's not good for Obama to be spending much of his airtime attacking the GOP's VP nominee.
Ok everyone, tell me why I'm completely wrong. :lol :lol
BenjaminBirdie said:This will not end well.
schuelma said:I realize Obama feels they have to respond, but this is very very risky.
John McCain of all people is the one of the four appearing to be above the fray. That's not good, and it's not good for Obama to be spending much of his airtime attacking the GOP's VP nominee.
Ok everyone, tell me why I'm completely wrong. :lol :lol
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/new_mccain_ad_badly_distorts_o_1.phpStoney Mason said:What was it?
schuelma said:I realize Obama feels they have to respond, but this is very very risky.
John McCain of all people is the one of the four appearing to be above the fray. That's not good, and it's not good for Obama to be spending much of his airtime attacking the GOP's VP nominee.
Ok everyone, tell me why I'm completely wrong. :lol :lol
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/mccain-ad-obamas-lone-edu_n_125205.htmlStoney Mason said:What was it?