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SO awesome. If they're going with the lobbyist thing they need to describe why having lobbyists running his campaign is a bad thing and this ad does a great job at that.AniHawk said:
SO awesome. If they're going with the lobbyist thing they need to describe why having lobbyists running his campaign is a bad thing and this ad does a great job at that.AniHawk said:
FlightOfHeaven said:I agree with you, actually. I believe in a strong free market with little regulation, except when needed to protect consumers (see environmental standards, sub-prime mortgage lending rates, speculation on the stock market).
And the Dems are guilty at times, no doubt. I'm with you here, too. The problem is that the Republican Party, on the whole, have been much worse economically on the whole.
You'll find me honestly open and receptive to conservative economic ideas. Just not Republican ones.
Same. : /
Change we need, Polyhedron. Change we need.
No, but people like to act like democrats are above this sort of thing.Verano said:Oh like being democrat immunes you from being illogically childish. This is silly. You're silly.
polyh3dron said:aw hell... fine I'll change it.
AVATARS: SRS BSNS
TDG said:No, but people like to act like democrats are above this sort of thing.
People in this thread always whine about wanting an election about the issues, but take glee in pictures of McCain that look old and the suspicion that Palin's daughter had a daughter and Palin is pretending it belongs to her, and make avatars about how gross McCain is? It's silly and hypocritical. If you want an election about issues, act like it.
Note: I'm not saying everyone is guilty of this, by the way, it's actually a small minority. I heart you guys.
Here ya go.Verano said:Can I haz your avatar?
...well, not just consumers but victims of externalities, and also to protect the market itself from participants seeking to make it less free(see antitrust laws).FlightOfHeaven said:I agree with you, actually. I believe in a strong free market with little regulation, except when needed to protect consumers (see environmental standards, sub-prime mortgage lending rates, speculation on the stock market).
Agent Icebeezy said:http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/1755
A Tim Wise article. White guy talking about white privilege and the 2008 elections. Not that long, but a good read.
maximum360 said:It's a sad state of affairs when it takes SNL to get the media to 'grow a pair'.
I knew Palin gave me the same vibe as Tina Fey.MThanded said:SNL tina fey is perfect as sarah palin
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Agent Icebeezy said:http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/1755
A Tim Wise article. White guy talking about white privilege and the 2008 elections. Not that long, but a good read.
mckmas8808 said:I guess we'll see who wins in the end. The same party that could never beat F'ing Bush or a new campaign that beat the Clintons when nobody saw it coming.
AndyIsTheMoney said:how do you feel about nationalized health care?
GOP doesn't control the board of elections in Ohio anymore.AniHawk said:I have now reentered panic mode. With the swiftboating 527 shitfuck bottom-feeders of humanity getting going and the whole thing about vote tampering in places like Ohio from 2004, and McCain/Palin not giving a shit about lying to the American people, I'm getting worried.
Welcome to the legal purpose of a public corporation.I also oppose the very notion of an insurance company. It's a service industry that remains profitable only if it denies service to the customer. To me, that's antithetical to the notion of what business should be. In this day and age, the stockholder, not the customer, is king. If the stockholder benefits at the expense of the customer, it's good business. It shouldn't be.
This really bothers me for some reason and I'm no where near to earning that much. It doesn't seem fair.AndyIsTheMoney said:so if you earn 2.8 million, between McCain and Obama there is a difference of taxes you will pay equaling a million dollars. wow
Hitokage said:GOP doesn't control the board of elections in Ohio anymore.
You're both failng at math.ralexand said:This really bothers me for some reason and I'm no where near to earning that much. It doesn't seem fair.
AniHawk said:I have now reentered panic mode. With the swiftboating 527 shitfuck bottom-feeders of humanity getting going and the whole thing about vote tampering in places like Ohio from 2004, and McCain/Palin not giving a shit about lying to the American people, I'm getting worried.
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gkrykewy said:Tonight? Did I miss something (aside from SNL)?
Hitokage said:...well, not just consumers but victims of externalities, and also to protect the market itself from participants seeking to make it less free(see antitrust laws).
Otherwise I tend to agree, but I put more stock in Murphy's Law when it comes to situations of corruption and I don't prefer an ineffective and inefficient(including costs shoved on others) private solution just because it's "private". If it's better to be run as a public program, it should be run as a public program. At the same time, if it isn't, it shouldn't.
Oh, and the forces of the free market need to be fully countered in some situations because short-term interests run entirely counter to long-term interests, like with wildlife management and species becoming high-price delicacies.
ralexand said:This really bothers me for some reason and I'm no where near to earning that much. It doesn't seem fair.
AniHawk said:I have now reentered panic mode. With the swiftboating 527 shitfuck bottom-feeders of humanity getting going and the whole thing about vote tampering in places like Ohio from 2004, and McCain/Palin not giving a shit about lying to the American people, I'm getting worried.
mamacint said:You're both failng at math.
AndyIsTheMoney said:i know someone who pays over half his income to the government, ive seen the checks, doesn't take math to see that.
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ralexand said:This really bothers me for some reason and I'm no where near to earning that much. It doesn't seem fair.
Imagine not having to lift a finger for most of your annual income. Imagine only being taxed on the small portion you actually had to work for. After all, unearned income is sacred, earned income not as much.AndyIsTheMoney said:imagine paying 50-60% in taxes. so for 6 months out of the year you are solely working for the gov...and people say you dont pay enough
AniHawk said:527 swiftboating group is going after Obama now. Palin reincorporated "Thanks but no thanks" back into her speech. They just don't give a fuck. Those greedy power-hungry American-hating fucks.
domokunrox said:I'm sorry, am I the only one not feeling very good about the polls? Its getting worst and worst every day at 538
Flakster99 said:Absolutely. Positively. Brilliant.
Cloudy said:Again, those are AVERAGES. It's just going back to the Clinton tax rates. Were those years really so bad?
It's not going to run on TV. It's a web ad tied to the push against McCain's lobbyist ties. I thought it was amusing and effective and got the point across, but the TV ads will have to be much harder hitting. The one he released on Friday was spot-on.Byakuya769 said:..... cute.
Who made that weak ass ad?
AndyIsTheMoney said:i was younger in the 90s, but wasn't Clinton perceived as friendly in terms of business and taxes? I thought he was much more central in this area. plus he had a repub congress most of the time also![]()
domokunrox said:I'm sorry, am I the only one not feeling very good about the polls? Its getting worst and worst every day at 538.
Anyone got the link to the Neogaf Obama donation page? I think I better start putting money in there now.
Clinton is the evil man who supposedly gave us the largest tax increase in history, resulting in a crippled economy and millions left eating their shoes for sustenance.AndyIsTheMoney said:i was younger in the 90s, but wasn't Clinton perceived as friendly in terms of business and taxes? I thought he was much more central in this area. plus he had a repub congress most of the time also![]()
Hitokage said:Welcome to the legal purpose of a public corporation.![]()
GhaleonEB said:It's not going to run on TV. It's a web ad tied to the push against McCain's lobbyist ties. I thought it was amusing and effective and got the point across, but the TV ads will have to be much harder hitting. The one he released on Friday was spot-on.