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[AndyIsTheMoran]

Imagine not having to lift a finger for most of your annual income. Imagine only being taxed on the small portion you actually had to work for. After all, unearned income is sacred, earned income not as much.

its apparent you don't know many CEOs. I cant speak for every industry, but for the company i work for he is by far busiest, and hardest working. Traveling every Monday through Friday, and working every weekend. Especially during these hard times in the automotive industry so no employees need to be layed off. Most of you probably have this imagination of the corporate fat cat, Enron type, but let me tell you from many i have met, this is not the norm.

 

[Hitokage]

I've heard it's horribly inefficient, in terms of medicine, though. : /

Well, yeah, but actually providing medical care is just a means to an end, not the end itself.

 

[Cloudy]

i was younger in the 90s, but wasn't Clinton perceived as friendly in terms of business and taxes? I thought he was much more central in this area. plus he had a repub congress most of the time also

I was also younger (and not as interested/informed) but Obama's tax plan is NOTHING MORE than raising the highest income tax rate to 39% (like in the Clinton years) and raising the capital gains tax on people making OVER $250,000 from 15% to 20%. That's it...

With the money from that, he wants to decrease the tax burden on the middle class and in turn stimulate the economy (a true "trickle-down"). Does it hurt very rich? Yep but they're still in much better shape than 95% of Americans who will be getting tax cuts..

its apparent you don't know many CEOs. I cant speak for every industry, but for the company i work for he is by far busiest, and hardest working. Traveling every Monday through Friday, and working every weekend. Especially during these hard times in the automotive industry so no employees need to be layed off. Most of you probably have this imagination of the corporate fat cat, Enron type, but let me tell you from many i have met, this is not the norm.

I wouldn't blame that guy for voting McCain if taxes are the most important thing to him..

 

[devilhawk]

Outside of the political skits, SNL is terrible.

I agree. They were at their best during the 2000 election when the decision went to the courts. The skit where Gore was talking about the Florida ballots was amazing. Wish I could find the skit.

 

[Byakuya769]

Holy shit @ Tina Fey.....That is amazing.

Yea she was good, though I wanted to hear "18 million CahRACKS in the glass ceiling"

 

[gkryhewy]

i was younger in the 90s, but wasn't Clinton perceived as friendly in terms of business and taxes? I thought he was much more central in this area. plus he had a repub congress most of the time also

You were....younger in the 90s? :lol

And yeah, that 1994 congress worked out really well.

Christ - there's just no helping some people.

 

[Flakster99]

It's uncanny...I'm watching it again just to be sure of what I saw. And heard.

Even during the news segment they took Palin to task.
Up to this point, political satire skit wise, well done, sln.

 

[AniHawk]

I agree. They were at their best during the 2000 election when the decision went to the courts. The skit where Gore was talking about the Florida ballots was amazing. Wish I could find the skit.

Such a classic:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=snl+dukakis&emb=0&aq=f#

 

[Hitokage]

its apparent you don't know many CEOs. I cant speak for every industry, but for the company i work for he is by far busiest, and hardest working. Traveling every Monday through Friday, and working every weekend. Especially during these hard times in the automotive industry so no employees need to be layed off. Most of you probably have this imagination of the corporate fat cat, Enron type, but let me tell you from many i have met, this is not the norm.

Note I never said they were lazy, although companies like Home Depot make me wonder.

 

[AndyIsTheMoran]

You were....younger in the 90s? :lol

.

im 24, but took an interest in politics at a very young age. Im not sure in which way your trying to put me down, please elaborate

 

[GhaleonEB]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6YqjCkmgp1r3pLz7m

SNL skit with Fey as Palin

Holy shit. That WAS Palin. :lol

 

[SouthernDragon]

imagine paying 50-60% in taxes. so for 6 months out of the year you are solely working for the gov...and people say you dont pay enough

Considering that the earned income rate is 39%, and capital gains is 15%, there's something going wrong here. Those that depend on earned income are taxed at 39% without much wiggle room, but they usually cap out around 500,000. Those that earn more than 250,000$ usually have other earning options at their disposal, such as stock, that are taxed at a lesser rate, usually 15%.

Those that earn enough to take advantage of the capital gains tax to cover the majority of the money they earn can take advantage of many tax laws to reduce their rates even further.

Your friend is doing it wrong.

 

[Flakster99]

Such a classic:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=snl+dukakis&emb=0&aq=f#

Bah, the video can only be streamed within the US. ;(

 

[AniHawk]

Bah, the video can only be streamed within the US. ;(

Maybe this will work?:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=snl+dukakis&emb=0&aq=f#

 

[NullPointer]

Yea she was good, though I wanted to hear "18 million CahRACKS in the glass ceiling"

She looks, spot on. And once you hear her voice.

God damn.

That skit is what I needed to see all week. There's been far too much stress in PoliGAF as of late, me included, and that little bit of Palin/Clinton goodness was enough to recharge my batteries.

Yeah, its a fight. A long, exasperating, drawn out fight. And nobody is going to come out of this on the other side without scars. Fights diminish both sides. But the stakes are high.

Doesn't mean we can't take a step back and have some fun. I still have faith in the people of this country that enough of us will at least stop, take a breath, and make a choice that matters, wherever the lines might be drawn.

 

[Rur0ni]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6YqjCkmgp1r3pLz7m

SNL skit with Fey as Palin

Damn that was rough. "I invite the media to grow a pair, and if you can't.. I will lend you mine."

 

[AniHawk]

I wonder if Tina wrote that skit.

 

[mckmas8808]

New ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHazb4FAREE&eurl=http://www.johnmccainrecord.com/mclobbyist/

I like it. I'm waiting for 50 Gaffers to complain that it's not hard hitting enough or it's stupid as hell and won't work.

 

[SouthernDragon]

im 24, but took an interest in politics at a very young age. Im not sure in which way your trying to put me down, please elaborate

The joke is, you could hardly have been older in the 90s.

 

[maximum360]

'Palin on SNL': "Global warming is just God huggin us closer."

:lol

Hillary on SNL: Stop referring to me as "Boner-shrinker".

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Tamanon]

The joke is, you could hardly have been older in the 90s.

Never underestimate a strong, contrarian attitude. I'm pretty sure I got APF to argue that the sky is yellow one time.

 

[The Blue Jihad]

I wonder if Tina wrote that skit.

If she didn't, then the actual SNL writers know her extremely well.

 

[mckmas8808]

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/13/1394679.aspx

Sarah Palin apparently gave the same stump speech again in Nevada this evening, complete with the THNX BUT NO THNX bullshit and the eBay lie.

The campaign also estimated that 10,000 people showed up at the Pavilion where the event was held, despite park officials saying that the venue only holds 3,500 people at capacity.

It's like the Democrats wrote the chain of events for their narrative and the GOP followed it, this is getting absurd.

WHY DO THEY KEEP LYING?! Seriously what's the point? If that many people aren't showing up then that means you can't act like 5K more people were there. It's not like those invisible people should count.

 

[gkryhewy]

The joke is, you could hardly have been older in the 90s.

Thank you.

 

[SouthernDragon]

Never underestimate a strong, contrarian attitude. I'm pretty sure I got APF to argue that the sky is yellow one time.

Your eyes are just biased towards the higher energy wavelength end of the spectrum. If you were more biologically diverse and receptive towards longer wavelengths, perhaps you could see that the sky is yellow to some of us. Stop being close minded and open your eyes.

 

[mckmas8808]

Yep, for the record I think it's about 50/50 right now, it honestly could go either way and no one on either side should be overly confident or overly panicked.

I agree with you. I'd just like to point this out because it doesn't happen much.

 

[AniHawk]

WHY DO THEY KEEP LYING?!

Maybe they can't just stop at one.

It's like potato chips and masturbation.

 

[AndyIsTheMoran]

Never underestimate a strong, contrarian attitude. I'm pretty sure I got APF to argue that the sky is yellow one time.

ok, obviously i was younger, i was just saying i was a younger person, and cared more about other shit than politics, so i wouldn't remember as much politically from the Clinton years as i would the Bush years.

 

[The Chosen One]

Palin did great on SNL. She needs to do more television.









...

Spoiler

if you didn't tell me that was Tina Fey before-hand, I wouldn't have known. She was spot on.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Maybe they can't just stop at one.

It's like potato chips and masturbation.

I'm so glad they're not. I don't think they see the narrative shifting under their feet, and it's going to hit them hard in the next week.

I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.

 

[mj1108]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6YqjCkmgp1r3pLz7m

SNL skit with Fey as Palin

Wow, wow, wow. Like I mentioned in the other thread, that is dead-fucking-on.

 

[Y2Kev]

If the GOP was actually able to regularly throw out millions of votes, the Dems wouldn't have won in 06. I'm not going to get too worried about that kind of stuff.

 

[GhaleonEB]

If the GOP was actually able to regularly throw out millions of votes, the Dems wouldn't have won in 06. I'm not going to get too worried about that kind of stuff.

Truth. Especially some of those ultra close races.

 

[phalestine]

there is only one think I hate more than lies, and that's Palin :|

 

[Flakster99]

Maybe this will work?:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=snl+dukakis&emb=0&aq=f#

Thanks for trying man, no go.

 

[devilhawk]

WHY DO THEY KEEP LYING?! Seriously what's the point? If that many people aren't showing up then that means you can't act like 5K more people were there. It's not like those invisible people should count.

How bout you stop propagating lies yourself. MSNBC spouts as much BS as the republicans (and since it was worded oddly, you misinterpreted it).

An estimated 10,000 people were waiting at the Pony Express Pavilion in Carson City to see Palin at 6 p.m., according to Carson City Sheriff's Office estimates.

However, only 3,500 will be let in to see Palin speak in her first Nevada campaign stop. Everyone else will have to be content with watching outside the pavilion on big screens with amplified speakers.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080913/NEWS19/80913022

 

[ralexand]

Again, those are AVERAGES. It's just going back to the Clinton tax rates. Were those years really so bad?

That said, if I was making that much and only cared about tax policies, I'd be tempted to vote McCain too. It's everyone else that I can't understand..

Got it. Thanks1

 

[Macam]

Truth be told, I couldn't tell you if that was Sarah Palin on SNL or Tina Fey.

 

[Tamanon]

How bout you stop propagating lies yourself. MSNBC spouts as much BS as the republicans (and since it was worded oddly, you misinterpreted it).


http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080913/NEWS19/80913022

OK, so why do they keep lying on the bridge to nowhere?

 

[phalestine]

How bout you stop propagating lies yourself. MSNBC spouts as much BS as the republicans (and since it was worded oddly, you misinterpreted it).


http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080913/NEWS19/80913022

fire with fire man, fire with fire.

 

[NullPointer]

'Palin on SNL': "Global warming is just God huggin us closer."

:lol

Hillary on SNL: Stop referring to me as "Boner-shrinker".

:lol :lol :lol

"You know Sarah.. Looking back. If I could change one thing - I should've wanted it more.

Mwahaha! Hawahaha! oh yeahhhh *Cackle* *rips off a piece of the podium*"

Pure fucking genius.

 

[devilhawk]

fire with fire man, fire with fire.

Did you think it would be any other way? Sadly, It's only going to get worse

 

[mckmas8808]

How bout you stop propagating lies yourself. MSNBC spouts as much BS as the republicans (and since it was worded oddly, you misinterpreted it).


http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080913/NEWS19/80913022

I wonder why MSNBC said what they said. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they told them 10K were let in.

 

[GhaleonEB]

fire with fire man, fire with fire.

As Obama said, he's going to hit back, but not start making up lies about McCain. There's a right and wrong way to slag McCain.

Also, MSNBC didn't lie.

Nevada Lt. Gov. Brian Krolicki said on stage that 10,000 people were in the crowd, but parks officials said the pavilion held only 3,500 people.

When I read that, it sounds like 10,000 were there, but only 3,500 were inside the pavilion. No contradiction.

 

[Gaborn]

I agree with you. I'd just like to point this out because it doesn't happen much.

YOU? disagree with me usually? really? I'm shocked, I never really noticed :lol :lol :lol

 

[devilhawk]

I wonder why MSNBC said what they said. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they told them 10K were let in.

Well my ultra paranoid guess would be that the MSNBC writer wrote the statement ambigously as possible so that the 500 comments that followed are all screaming liar, liar. Then the blogs can pick up on the suppose lie and it can spread all over.

But I know better than that. The writer just sucks.

 

[Cloudy]

Here's a good clip on the Obama/McCain tax policies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5tGbKZNBz0

 

[Stinkles]

its apparent you don't know many CEOs. I cant speak for every industry, but for the company i work for he is by far busiest, and hardest working. Traveling every Monday through Friday, and working every weekend. Especially during these hard times in the automotive industry so no employees need to be layed off. Most of you probably have this imagination of the corporate fat cat, Enron type, but let me tell you from many i have met, this is not the norm.

It's apparent you don't know too may single mothers holding down two jobs then. And you should measure the scale of their efforts, versus the compensation.

And let's look at compensation versus profit, since you're in the US auto industry.

 

[DrEvil]

Well my ultra paranoid guess would be that the MSNBC writer wrote the statement ambigously as possible so that the 500 comments that followed are all screaming liar, liar. Then the blogs can pick up on the suppose lie and it can spread all over.

But I know better than that. The writer just sucks.

...well that number is "over 9000" - perhaps the msnbc writer is part of anonymous?

 

[Son of Godzilla]

YOU? disagree with me usually? really? I'm shocked, I never really noticed :lol :lol :lol

He's black.