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[Stoney Mason]

McCain up two in NH.

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/nh_mccain_47_obama_45_unh91421.php

ARG had McCain up three last week, as well.

Yeah that is becoming worrisome. It's only 4 votes for still.

 

[capslock]

What's up with NH's love affair with McCain?

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

OH and FL don't matter.


Colorado and Virginia are the new OH and FL.

I think if Obama wins CO and loses OH, he will still win.

 

[HylianTom]

What's up with NH's love affair with McCain?

I don't know - but it's a key state in the 269-269 math.

Kerry states - NH + IA + CO + NM = 269.

Yikes.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

:lol hilarious.

Though it fits Garnett much better.

 

[Captain Pants]

What's up with NH's love affair with McCain?

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Wow, a CEO who isn't a total money hungry douche. Someone pinch me.

AIG has over $20 Billion in off-shore accounts right now. I wonder if they will pay up to help offset their bailout with our nickels.

 

[JCreasy]

AIG has over $20 Billion in off-shore accounts right now. I wonder if they will pay up to help offset their bailout with our nickels.

Wow is this true?

 

[Incognito]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWf3NLCAEs8

"This is the third time we've done it with this bunch. First the war, which didn't get paid for. Then the tax cuts, that didn't get paid for, and now King Henry takes over to distribute 700 billion dollars. He's going to be there for four months. And in four months he will make deals and then he'll go out and he'll be able to catch a pass he threw to himself."

 

[Xisiqomelir]

New T-shirt get!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/Xisiqomelir/DSCN1182.jpg

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

Can someone exlpain to me that one poll that deals with like betting that has Obama winning? What is its significance?

 

[Stoney Mason]

edit:nm

 

[capslock]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/22/192039/655/285/606882

:lol

'King Henry can catch a pass he threw to himself.'

 

[Xisiqomelir]

Dude edit out the pic. Just because we don't like these politicians doesn't mean we have to be crude.

I guess I do still want to be around to see the Friday craziness.

Can someone exlpain to me that one poll that deals with like betting that has Obama winning? What is its significance?

Link? I can translate odds for you if it's straight odds.

 

[The Lamonster]

http://i36.tinypic.com/29bzs50.jpg

anybody have the original?

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Wow is this true?

It was disccussed at the end of the Lou Dobbs report tonight. It was discussed by the panel as a matter of fact. It was news to me.

 

[so_awes]

New T-shirt get!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/Xisiqomelir/DSCN1182.jpg

holy shit :lol :lol :lol

and gross!:lol :lol

 

[Xisiqomelir]

holy shit :lol :lol :lol

and gross!:lol :lol

Flo_Evans deserves credit for the tip-off

 

[MaddenNFL64]

New T-shirt get!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/Xisiqomelir/DSCN1182.jpg

:lol

awesome

 

[The Lamonster]

New T-shirt get!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/Xisiqomelir/DSCN1182.jpg

Those look like some high thread count bedsheets. I love that shit. And I love you guys. I'm getting a PoliGAF tattoo. Because I love you guys.

 

[Zeliard]

anybody have the original?

 

[Cloudy]

For the polls to be this close after the latest Bush disaster is VERY troubling. To be honest, I don't think Obama can win this..

 

[Tamanon]

For the polls to be this close after the latest Bush disaster is VERY troubling. To be honest, I don't think Obama can win this..

I don't think you quite realize how deeply entrenched party affiliations are and how close the election will always be.

 

[The Lamonster]

http://i38.tinypic.com/23uvtdi.jpg

Not exactly what I was looking for, but still cool!

 

[reilo]

For the polls to be this close after the latest Bush disaster is VERY troubling. To be honest, I don't think Obama can win this..

YES!!!
YESYESYESYESYESYEEEEESS!!

 

[Zeliard]

For the polls to be this close after the latest Bush disaster is VERY troubling. To be honest, I don't think Obama can win this..

It's going to be close, but Obama still has the upper hand in terms of the electoral vote count.

 

[mclem]

It will be a close race, therefore Florida is important.

I'm actually thinking there's a reasonable chance it won't be close, despite what the polls suggest. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion either way, just that I think there's a pretty high chance of a landslide victory in one direction or another. My gut feeling is that there's two key factors which dictate how this will go; racism and ground game.

If racism is a significant factor, it'll be a McCain landslide.
If Obama's ground game is as good as the rumours, I think it'll be an Obama landslide.

If *neither* of those is a factor, I think it'll be a close election; if *both* of those are a significant factor, I think it'll also be close, with them cancelling out.

None of this is based on any facts, of course, just the feeling that there could be a big tipping factor either way that's not really been accounted for.

 

[Cloudy]

I don't think you quite realize how deeply entrenched party affiliations are and how close the election will always be.

I do but it just doesn't seem right. Objectively speaking, the Repubs should have ZERO chance this year. And MI and PA should be solid blue by now. WTF!

Unfortunately, I think the country's just not ready for an AA Prez

 

[Stoney Mason]

For the polls to be this close after the latest Bush disaster is VERY troubling. To be honest, I don't think Obama can win this..

This was never going to be a blowout. Obama is in no worse a position than he has ever been and arguably he is in a lot better position than he has been in awhile. Without any substantive logic behind it your just being a pessimist. Which is alright I guess since most of the other Obama supporters are perhaps a bit overly optimistic.

 

[Zeliard]

I'm actually thinking there's a reasonable chance it won't be close, despite what the polls suggest. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion either way, just that I think there's a pretty high chance of a landslide victory in one direction or another. My gut feeling is that there's two key factors which dictate how this will go; racism and ground game.

If racism is a significant factor, it'll be a McCain landslide.
If Obama's ground game is as good as the rumours, I think it'll be an Obama landslide.

If *neither* of those is a factor, I think it'll be a close election; if *both* of those are a significant factor, I think it'll also be close, with them cancelling out.

None of this is based on any facts, of course, just the feeling that there could be a big tipping factor either way that's not really been accounted for.

Even though I'm optimistic about an Obama victory, I'm sincerely worried about the possible Bradley Effect. That's why I'm not really trusting the polls.

 

[Door2Dawn]

For the polls to be this close after the latest Bush disaster is VERY troubling. To be honest, I don't think Obama can win this..

Its always "troubling" with you people. "I don't think obama can win this"? what stupid thing to say.

 

[The Lamonster]

It's going to be close, but Obama still has the upper hand in terms of the electoral vote count.

You have to factor in secret racism, I'd say it's about 4-6%

 

[PhatSaqs]

For the polls to be this close after the latest Bush disaster is VERY troubling. To be honest, I don't think Obama can win this..

We all know why it's close.

 

[Tamanon]

Its always "troubling" with you people. "I don't think obama can win this"? what stupid thing to say.

What do you mean by "you people"?:lol

 

[PhoenixDark]

What do you mean by "you people"?:lol

Cloudy is black

 

[Clevinger]

We all know why it's close.

Because the country is basically divided in half by two parties and most would still stick with theirs even after a shitty leader?

 

[electricpirate]

For the polls to be this close after the latest Bush disaster is VERY troubling. To be honest, I don't think Obama can win this..

By most Political science models, IE, Bread and peace model, this was always going to be a close race; national vote within 3%, dems ahead, which is about where it is now.

 

[StoOgE]

well, Im officially booked with Team Obama for a trip to New Mexico. I wanted CO but they asked that I go to NM. Evidently CA/WA/OR residents are flooding NV/CO and they are moving Texans to NM.

 

[MoxManiac]

I dunno, i'm optimistic about Obama's chances. Kerry was in much worse shape around this time of the year, and there's the fact that Kerry sucked, and also Kerry wasn't nearly as aggressive with a ground game, and he was fighting against a president going for his second term, and it was still pretty close in the end.

 

[Door2Dawn]

What do you mean by "you people"?:lol

Black people

 

[Door2Dawn]

I dunno, i'm optimistic about Obama's chances. Kerry was in much worse shape around this time of the year, and there's the fact that Kerry sucked, and also Kerry wasn't nearly as aggressive with a ground game, and he was fighting against a president going for his second term, and it was still pretty close in the end.

But cloudy says he doesn't think obama can win this!!

 

[Frank the Great]

I dunno, i'm optimistic about Obama's chances. Kerry was in much worse shape around this time of the year, and there's the fact that Kerry sucked, and also Kerry wasn't nearly as aggressive with a ground game, and he was fighting against a president going for his second term, and it was still pretty close in the end.

Kerry was also white, tbqh.

 

[MoxManiac]

But cloudy says he doesn't think obama can win this!!

Actually, it looks like I lied! :lol Kerry was ahead this day in 2004. Still. Obama's been performing much better then him on average, I think.

 

[mclem]

So he was Anon? No way!

Clearly he... wasn't.

 

[PS2 KID]

For the polls to be this close after the latest Bush disaster is VERY troubling. To be honest, I don't think Obama can win this..

[Darth Vader]I find your lack of faith disturbing[/Darth Vader]

Of course we're going to win. We've got a superior ground game.

 

[Door2Dawn]

I wonder who would win if It were Kerry running against McCain this year instead of Nobama.

 

[MoxManiac]

At the risk of sounding ignorant myself, aren't most of the people that would avoid voting for Obama because he's black, basically ignorant rednecks who were going to vote for mccain anyways?

 

[Frank the Great]

At the risk of sounding ignorant myself, aren't most of the people that would avoid voting for Obama because he's black, basically ignorant rednecks who were going to vote for mccain anyways?

They're the people who would vote for McCain and who voted against John Kerry for looking French and seeming elitist.

Obama doesn't need them.

 

[Rhindle]

At the risk of sounding ignorant myself, aren't most of the people that would avoid voting for Obama because he's black, basically ignorant rednecks who were going to vote for mccain anyways?

Yes, most of them are.

But there is a good chunk of independents that are fairly clueless about issues, and just vote based on who they feel "more comfortable" with. The guy who wins the "who would you rather have a beer with" question always wins the presidential election. Always.

And there's probably a not-insignificant number of these people who don't tend to go out for beers with black folks.

 

[gkryhewy]

I do but it just doesn't seem right. Objectively speaking, the Repubs should have ZERO chance this year. And MI and PA should be solid blue by now. WTF!

Unfortunately, I think the country's just not ready for an AA Prez

Oh come on - grow a pair. He's polling at 50% now! That's very high pre-debates.

Also never forget - 50% of americans are functionally retarded.