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PoliGAF Interim Thread of Tears/Lapel Pins (ScratchingHisCheek-Gate)
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Deus Ex Machina
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XxenobladerxX said:
And the bus tour hasn't even started yet!belvedere said:
PhoenixDark
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Schattenjagger said:
Polls show otherwise, but by on means continue to live in your fantasy world. And v1cious with respect to it being a Rasmussen poll: it's still more than capable of showing voting patterns, which is the point.
JoshuaJSlone
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The whole thing about Obama repeatedly missing his chances to secure the nomination seems a bit silly. It's not like each new election brought a newly revised national result, but unique states with their own demographics and preferences. Hillary victories have been interspersed with Obama's, yes, but that doesn't make it a series of reversals.
It's weird how being in first earns one attention that amounts to "What's wrong with you that you're only THIS much ahead instead of THAT much ahead?"
It's weird how being in first earns one attention that amounts to "What's wrong with you that you're only THIS much ahead instead of THAT much ahead?"
bob_arctor
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PhoenixDark said:
You write about the Iraq War re-gaining support and he's living in a fantasy world?
siamesedreamer
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Triumph said:
A cyclical downturn that may end up being a bit worse than the most recent ones we've experienced. Hardly something that should result in significantly expanded government oversight like Obama is proposing.
And lately, it's been said that the Texas and Ohio primaries were his knockout chances, and he missed them. But really, with the proportional delegates, he wouldn't be THAT much further ahead if he had squeeked out wins. Maybe what, 20? Not enough to get Hillary to drop out or change the narrative much. ("it's close")JoshuaJSlone said:
Guileless
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For everyone mad at "the media," (which I gather means the cable news stations and whatever their on-air talent says extemporaneously) I suggest tuning into the Jim Lehrer Newshour and making donations to your local PBS station. Also you could subscribe to your local daily newspaper.
Guileless said:
Funny story about PSB -- had some friends over Tuesday night to watch Idol and BB and as we watched them, I was also taping "Bush's War", the Frontline special on PBS. Well, after the two shows ended I started Frontline. After about an hour, a friend looks up and asks "Are there no commercials or what? This shit is damn good...". :lol
PhoenixDark
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bob_arctor said:
It's gaining some support according to a recent poll. Your point?
bob_arctor
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PhoenixDark said:
My point? Stop masturbating to polls.
electricpirate
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siamesedreamer said:
Specificallyl to the housing market and financials or generally? Here's a general example of the issues with de-regulation.
Derugulation of Energy has been a massive failure nearly everywhere it's been rolled out, leading to higher prices CA being the worst example. In general american deregulation (and gov. "privatization" along with it) means to re-write the rules in favor of a few specific, generally larger companies. Remember the Brown outs in CA about 6 years ago? The ones that occured because Consumption dropped, and production remained the same, yet costs somehow skyrocketed. Good times.
Article on the failure of energy Deregulation.
http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/free-market-failure-electricity-deregulation/
Or how bout internet/phone services in the US where we pay nearly twice as much as Europe for comparable service?
A big reason the current housing crisis is so big and hitting the economy in general is because the companies were able to hide how risky these loans were from there investors. Better regulation, especially regulation requiring transparency could have greatly reduced the damages.
If you can't tell, I approved of much of what Obama said in his speech this morning
.PhoenixDark
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bob_arctor said:
I'm actually masturbating to Gia Darling right now, thank you very much.
Trends are interesting, and right now it's hard to deny the downward nature of Obama's. Hillary has to find a way to ensure he stays on the defensive until late April when she wins Penn.; she'll get a bump in the polls by default then.
GhaleonEB said:
i know the Clintons have this whole "never say die" thing, but i predict Hillary will be out the race if she loes both may 6 primaries. there's just no chance for her to catch up. if the press touts yet another big state for Hillary, and then she gets stomped hard again like post-mini-tuesday, she will either go quietly, or the DNC will force her out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLOdoMSx4AMPhoenixDark said:
Not sure if this is the poll you're talking about, but Josh Marshall looks at the internals and it's not quite all roses and cinnamon.
Frank the Great
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Incognito said:
i don't understand how anyone can take him seriously after the whole "Aries" fiasco
bob_arctor
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PhoenixDark said:
This means that the only "surge" working is the one in your pants and even that one will fail once you withdraw your troops.
PhoenixDark said:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/
So ignore the bias and look at the raw numbers. zomgari said:
siamesedreamer
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electricpirate said:If you can't tell, I approved of much of what Obama said in his speech this morning
Of course you did...his followers are devout and hang on every word.
FWIW, I agree that the mortgage industry needs changes in the laws.
problem with that is that there's someone else ready to prove or disprove the raw numbers. Kinda my point. I don't give a shit about poll numbers.GhaleonEB said:
EDIT: These threads is like a song and dance. NOBODY question when any of you posted and based your arguments on shear poll numbers. Why can't PD do so?
electricpirate
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siamesedreamer said:
I had also said that no candidate had actually addressed regulation in the Mortgage market properly before his speech, and criticized him for it, so I must be a prescient obama supporter!
siamesedreamer
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MSNBC is pretty much running a loop on the Wright story every half hour. Good times. :lol
thegreyfox
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Obama to talk about obamanomics on CNBC @ 4Est.
Thunder Monkey
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:lolelectricpirate said:
Even when he does something no other candidate dares do by actually laying forth a way to solve a problem, mentioning race at all, he gets shit for it from the media instead they stick tightly to the Wright crap.
Obama by all rights is the nominee. He's got the delegate advantage by 200, he has the popular vote by 1+ million, and he knows how to respond to attacks well and quickly.
Hillary on the other hand creates her own attacks. And can't give them a good response once unearthed.
Kitschkraft
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JoshuaJSlone said:
Agreed 100 percent.
I'm sick of the fucking media acting as though everytime Hillary wins a state, that she is on some "comeback" or "the voters still want more time to decide"...fucking bullshit, the states vote in an arbitrary order, and she is simply winning the states that she would have won regardless of the order or what states she had lost before. The media spin on Ohio and Texas was just ridiculous, would she NOT have one those states, regardless of what momentum Obama had? They make it seem like Obama would have had a better shot at these states had he not one 13 in a row before them...fucking bullshit.
electricpirate
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So where are these "new" wright stories? I don't have cable news, and I don't see any mention of it on the front of CNN.com or others.
thegreyfox
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ari said:
The same people that coined hillarycare and reaganomics.
Kitschkraft
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electricpirate said:
Anti-Israel remarks.
Anti-Italian remarks.
Deus Ex Machina
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electricpirate said:
Damn, you can't blame him everything, especially if he didn't even knew about it....PhoenixDark said:
bu bubu the pastor daughters posted this!
Get this silly shit out my face! media is dumb as fuck or just care about ratings
Thunder Monkey
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He definitely got the delegate count from Texas. Lost the primary by a small amount, and won the caucus by a huge amount.tanod said:
ConfusingJazz
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Thunder Monkey said:
And will probably expand that a little more at the county then state conventions. The Clinton campaign only started to prepare for the county conventions this week while the Obama camp has been hassling delegates to attend training sessions for the last couple weeks.
ToyMachine228
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Liara T'Soni said:
I wonder how long it'll be until the media picks up on some of the things that McCain's pastor has said about destroying Islam, or how 9/11 and and Katrina were God's reactions to liberal policies in America. That's why McCain's staying quiet on the Wright thing.
Deus Ex Machina
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Sir, you're smart.ToyMachine228 said:
PhoenixDark
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harSon said:
Please explain this. I rarely bring up polls, but when I do it's an onslaught of information to back my claims - and my current claim is that the Wright thing has really damaged Obama, in more ways than one. As the dude from MyDD said it's time to have an adult conversation on this and face reality. Just last month people were writing McCain off.
To be fair to Phoenix Dark, he basically lives on this message board and on the internet, and probably has lost almost all touch with the outside world and reality, dealing with real people/situations, which goes hand in hand with sensibility and common sense.
His posts are more humor than anything, and I always read them as such and pretend he's being sarcastic, to avoid feeling too much pity for him that he actually takes himself and his disconnected views seriously.
His posts are more humor than anything, and I always read them as such and pretend he's being sarcastic, to avoid feeling too much pity for him that he actually takes himself and his disconnected views seriously.
XxenobladerxX
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