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PoliGAF Thread of First Debate Election 2008 - GAF doesn't know shit
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Yup. I still remember the Newsweek cover that read "Off the Ropes" about how Kerry bounced back in their poll after that debate. Can't find a shot of the cover, though.AniHawk said:
Oct 1-3 numbers are from JUST after the first debate. It honest-to-god helped Kerry. And with all these polls coming out, saying Obama won, well...
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-815770/NEWSWEEK-MEDIA-LEAD-SHEET-October.html#abstract
Hitokage said:
Overall:
Other than that one point, I think he did pretty awesome. With it, I think it makes the foreign policy discussion a draw.
However, his repeated use of "3 points are blah blah" are really going to affect voter attitudes that he has a plan for the economy and defense. They might not remember specifics of what he said but they'll remember he had a plan.
Style:
Good avoidance of minutae like the $4000 student tuition credit that he likes to talk up a lot.
John McCain did well on some points but came across often as condescending and angry in spots and evasive on some questioning.
EDIT: Obama has to never say I agree with John in a debate ever again. McCain will not return the cordialness.
worldrunover
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Dolphin said:
:lol :lol
Hellsing321
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:lol :lol :lolDolphin said:
MassiveAttack
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Just watch... Palin will go missing for the next week. The campaign will concoct a story that she has a family emergency and cannot attend the debate.
Gary Whitta
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Please please please let's not let the GOP wriggle out of the VP debate. After the Couric debacle I am now anticipating the debate more than Iron Man and The Dark Knight combined.MassiveAttack said:
WickedAngel
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MassiveAttack said:
We're very sorry but Palin was viciously mauled by a wild moose. She was distracted by a silhouette of Putin on the horizon.
MaddenNFL64
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belvedere: GAF insta-reaction - "Obama lost! Average dumbshits will think he's a bitch!"
MSM, Focus groups & scientific snap polling - Obama won
GAF - "Oh, ok."
MSM, Focus groups & scientific snap polling - Obama won
GAF - "Oh, ok."
Stoney Mason
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I've often wondered the same. When will be able to retire that little phrase.Tamanon said:
Souldriver
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While I was filled with anger and wanted Obama to attack McCain for his false claims near the end of the debate, I think Obama did the right thing by saying "I'd like to respond to John's...." *McCain rambling in the background* *Jim saying there's no time* "...OK Jim, nevermind, go on to the next question."
To me it sounded so very soft, but I think it made him look gentle and likable (or as so many people call it "presidential") to a lot of viewers.
To me it sounded so very soft, but I think it made him look gentle and likable (or as so many people call it "presidential") to a lot of viewers.
WickedAngel
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MaddenNFL64 said:
We weren't all so eager to be pessimistic.
I really don't know how they're going to handle that one. Biden looked sharp tonight in his responses, attacking McCain for being stuck in the past and pointing out all his mistakes. Doing everything Obama wasn't, really, being very aggressive. Palin is fucked anyway in any debate with a moderately intelligent person, but she will be fucked if she goes up against Biden.MassiveAttack said:
Funky Papa
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"This ruthless campaign has showed me that I couldn't do this to my children. Trig needs me, my dumbass daughter and her redneck groom need me. There are plenty of brave soldiers in the Republican party willing to help John McCain to reach the White House and put this country back on track blahblahblah".MassiveAttack said:
I am kind of expecting something like that.
GitarooMan
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I don't know, but sounds like something Begala would say. He called Bush a high functioning moron yesterday.reilo said:
I agree, but his chance for doing this (at least in the debates) are now slim.Tommie Hu$tle said:
At times, Obama did a poor job deflecting McCain's attacks. Even though he was very pointed on the facts, he needed to come up with more succinct and sharp counter arguments. On substance, Obama won no doubt. Here's the problem: American Presidential debates really aren't about substance. They're about making your opponent look bad. Had Obama seized the moment, I believe that McCain would have been toast. And given McCain's illustrious ill-tempered demeanor, make that burnt toast.
I believe Obama could and should have won this debate decisively. I mean he's got so much in his favor politically, but he failed to capitalize on most of it. And that's where my (personal) disappointment comes from, not that John McCain was brilliant tonight, far from it. But because I honestly expected more from Obama. He was too lax, and McCain is simply too stubborn for the type of debate Obama was trying to conduct. Hopefully he rectifies this oversight or miscalculation in the forthcoming debates.
Red Blaster
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reilo said:
Jeff Toobin on the CNN roundtable
MaddenNFL64
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Ok, so I should have labeled it as a sizeable portion of GAF 
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Chiggs
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Zeliard said:
No, and for example, here is an overall Fox News poll released Wednesday.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/24/fox-news-poll-obama-reclaims-lead-over-mccain-45-to-39/
kkaabboomm
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i win.GhaleonEB said:
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Barack winning the independents in every fucking area... amazing.thefro said:
Hellsing321
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:lol You're never going to let the American people off the hook, are you?. Not that I blame you.RubxQub said:
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