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PoliGAF Thread of First Debate Election 2008 - GAF doesn't know shit

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PhatSaqs

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RubxQub said:
What the hell was everyone doing in that press room sitting at a table with microphones? The room had no one in it and they weren't answering questions :lol

Was that entire thing just a planned photo op? Fucking sad.
"Hey i've met and spoke with foreign leaders!"
 

RubxQub

φίλω ἐξεχέγλουτον καί ψευδολόγον οὖκ εἰπόν
Relevant Videos

John McCain - "Suspends Campaign, Wants to Delay Debates": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVDaOvL4OJM

Barack Obama - "Debate more important than ever": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41F_oof_gu0

Letterman Ownage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E

Palin Interviews
Charlie Gibson Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubsUQKd9c7c

Hannity Interview - Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k44l33bar4
Hannity Interview - Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PqSOIjCAMo
Hannity Interview - Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1Mn2igU_W4

Katie Couric Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP12aNzocSc

(might want to get this type of stuff added to OP?)
 
I agree the debates are important. The American people deserve to see what the Presidential candidates are going to do to fix all that's amiss right now. They deserve to see these two men head to head comparing and contrasting their visions for the country. If John McCain can't spare 90 minutes to be open with the American people, he doesn't deserve to be President.
 

Vestal

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McCain talking at the Clinton thing, supposed to be a non political speech, and starts taking his political jabs(I suspended my campaign, No debate tommorow blah blah blah).. Pretty disgusting.
 

Zeliard

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avatar299 said:
bloomberg, cnbc, PBS c-span etc are for actual information. Do you really think most people here watch that?

I realize the concept of "media rounds" must be confusing to you and devilhawk, but that is what a surrogate does. McCain's most visible surrogates by far are the likes of Nancy Pfotenhauer, Tucker Bounds, and until she was unceremoniously dumped, Carly Fiorina. They're the most visible specifically because they go on channels like MSNBC, Fox News, and broadcast channels (i.e. national television, the "national" part being rather critical).

Goolsbee has been doing that lately and is getting some praise for his demonstrative knowledge on the subject of economics. McCain is incredibly weak on the economy and has no surrogate making the media rounds to make him look better on the issue (Carly Fiorina was one of his top economic advisors and the one who made the rounds, but she hardly helped him). That's a big reason why he's losing. Of course, I'm talking to people who believe that Palin is competent enough to be VP, so I guess it's all for naught.
 
Vestal said:
McCain talking at the Clinton thing, supposed to be a non political speech, and starts taking his political jabs(I suspended my campaign, No debate tommorow blah blah blah).. Pretty disgusting.

It sounds just like a stump speech... He's even using slogans "Country first"
 
????

Seriously this doesn't sound like a "suspended" campaign. He's in full campaign mode, using all his "Country First" slogans and blasting earmarks. Basically a modified stump speech.

This whole thing is a farce.
 

DenogginizerOS

BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
McCain deserves to get crushed for this. This Clinton speech is a foreign policy speech and his stunt has drawn attention to this speech. He is making his foreign policy points but doesn't have time to debate!!!! I understand now. He wants to get his soundbites on foreign policy in, delay the debate, and double down on his economic presence by making a photo op at the White House.
 

Barrett2

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Nazgul_Hunter said:
It sounds just like a stump speech... He's even using slogans "Country first"

You knew this was coming; the piece of shit is trying to cower Obama into shutting down his operation while McCain keeps the hate-train rolling.

I swear to god, if McCain's numbers go up as a result of this Communist-style campaign he is running, I will fucking lose it.
 

PhatSaqs

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ViperVisor said:
McCain's left eye dipping reminds me of Skinner telling Milhouse to lower his eyebrows.
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lawblob said:
You knew this was coming; the piece of shit is trying to cower Obama into shutting down his operation while McCain keeps the hate-train rolling.

I swear to god, if McCain's numbers go up as a result of this Communist-style campaign he is running, I will fucking lose it.

He even said just now: "If I'm elected president I promise..." Hopefully the pundits pounce on this hypocrisy.

They cut to a crowd shot and they looked bored / pissed
 

rancor

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This whole thing is disgusting. McCain's jumped the shark.

That actually reminds me of something. A couple of days ago McCain made a speech and his solution to the economy was to create an investigation once he was elected. And now he's doing his damnedest to get the bailout delayed. Is he really this laughably slow moving?
 

~Devil Trigger~

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RubxQub said:
Relevant Videos

John McCain - "Suspends Campaign, Wants to Delay Debates": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVDaOvL4OJM

Barack Obama - "Debate more important than ever": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41F_oof_gu0

Letterman Ownage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E

Palin Interviews
Charlie Gibson Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubsUQKd9c7c

Hannity Interview - Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k44l33bar4
Hannity Interview - Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PqSOIjCAMo
Hannity Interview - Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1Mn2igU_W4

Katie Couric Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP12aNzocSc

(might want to get this type of stuff added to OP?)

the Hannity interview were not relevant:lol

but good post

and :lol Katie Couric interview, Palin is soo generic its not even funny
 

Barrett2

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artredis1980 said:
McCain did the right thing in asking for debate delay: Bill Clinton

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/bill-clinton-do.html


Bill is really pissing me off. It seems like he is so embarrassed about what happened with South Carolina, he is now trying to remain 'above it all' for the rest of the campaign. Give me a break, Bill, just call it like it is. He should have pounced on McCain this morning on the Today Show.
 

Snaku

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Nazgul_Hunter said:
He even said just now: "If I'm elected president I promise..." Hopefully the pundits pounce on this hypocrisy.

They cut to a crowd shot and they looked bored / pissed

Yeah, I had to stop watching. He's done anything but suspended his campaign. Just trying to bail out on the debate.

This isn't RE4, assclown.
 
lawblob said:
Bill is really pissing me off. It seems like he is so embarrassed about what happened with South Carolina, he is now trying to remain 'above it all' for the rest of the campaign. Give me a break, Bill, just call it like it is. He should have pounced on McCain this morning on the Today Show.

as i have said, he is in the tank for mccain
 
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artredis1980 said:
as i have said, he is in the tank for mccain

Please... that's a joke. Have you seen him over and over again talking about the campaign and praising Barack Obama as the next President of the United States?

In the tank for sure... for his party.
 

DenogginizerOS

BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
lawblob said:
Bill is really pissing me off. It seems like he is so embarrassed about what happened with South Carolina, he is now trying to remain 'above it all' for the rest of the campaign. Give me a break, Bill, just call it like it is. He should have pounced on McCain this morning on the Today Show.
Hilary 2012!!
 
El_TigroX said:
Please... that's a joke. Have you seen him over and over again talking about the campaign and praising Barack Obama as the next President of the United States?

In the tank for sure... for his party.
But is he in the tank enough? Is the party truly unified?
 
Bill's responses aren't really helpful to Obama recently. He's been pretty much middle of the road in support of both Obama and McCain and then at the end of his interview or meeting he'll throw in "I think Obama will win" at the end. It's like sticking one black guy in the movie to fulfill the quota.
 
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Steve Youngblood said:
But is he in the tank enough? Is the party truly unified?

This makes me so frustrated... the guy was the DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT... the party hasn't been this unified in a LONG time.

NO former President or former nominee hopeful have EVER been out there and supported the current nominee as much as the Clintons. This just blows my mind that people think that the Clintons need to be giving him verbal blowjobs every day on all the major broadcast networks.

They've done a lot folks and they will continue to do a lot.

The party has NEVER been more unified (in my life) behind a single candidate. Give it a rest.
 

DenogginizerOS

BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Clinton says he thinks Obama will win but says nothing about why he thinks this. This is the problem. He praises McCain. His saying he thinks Obama will win is a guaranteed battle cry to motivate people to vote for McCain if anything to prove Clinton wrong.
 

ShOcKwAvE

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Couric: Would you support a moratorium on foreclosures to help average Americans keep their homes?

Palin: That's something that John McCain and I have both been discussing - whether that ... is part of the solution or not. You know, it's going to be a multi-faceted solution that has to be found here.

Couric: So you haven't decided whether you'll support it or not?

Palin: I have not.

Couric: What are the pros and cons of it do you think?

Palin: Oh, well, some decisions that have been made poorly should not be rewarded, of course.

Couric: By consumers, you're saying?

Palin: Consumers - and those who were predator lenders also.
That's, you know, that has to be considered also. But again, it's got to be a comprehensive, long-term solution found ... for this problem that America is facing today. As I say, we are getting into crisis mode here.

If I'm reading this right, she did not know what a moratorium is. She answered the question by talking about decisions by lenders. Preventing a foreclosure on consumers is not a "reward."
 
I think McCain is lulling Obama into a false sense of security for Friday night, and then when everyone least expects it, he steps onto the stage in Ole Miss with a steel chair and catches Obama in the back of the head and then stomps around doing the bushwhacker...

...wat
 

capslock

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lawblob said:
Bill is really pissing me off. It seems like he is so embarrassed about what happened with South Carolina, he is now trying to remain 'above it all' for the rest of the campaign. Give me a break, Bill, just call it like it is. He should have pounced on McCain this morning on the Today Show.

Bill is determined to be non-partisan, Obama doesn't need him to win so his supporters shouldn't expect anything out of Billy Boy either.
 

GhaleonEB

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ShOcKwAvE said:
If I'm reading this right, she did not know what a moratorium is. She answered the question by talking about decisions by lenders. Preventing a foreclosure on consumers is not a "reward."
She was mixing her talking points - literally answers to two different questions blended into one. The video made my head hurt; you could see her mind churning to recall the correct phrasing, desperately.
 
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DenogginizerOS said:
Clinton says he thinks Obama will win but says nothing about why he thinks this. This is the problem. He praises McCain. His saying he thinks Obama will win is a guaranteed battle cry to motivate people to vote for McCain if anything to prove Clinton wrong.


You're wrapping up a lot of things here.

So do you want Clinton to say something or not? You say, "He's not saying enough!" then you say "When he says stuff, people hate him, ergo won't vote for Obama!"

Should I go or should I stay?
 

gkryhewy

Member
ShOcKwAvE said:
If I'm reading this right, she did not know what a moratorium is. She answered the question by talking about decisions by lenders. Preventing a foreclosure on consumers is not a "reward."

Yes it is - if those consumers knowingly stretched for homes they couldn't afford, assuming the slot machine would keep paying out, then preventing their foreclosure rewards their poor decision.
 
Palin is faking it. Nobody is that stupid. She's going to pounce on Biden at the debate. Biden's been trying this himself, talking about how awesome and smart and great Palin is. It's all about expectations, Sarah's being a dunce on purpose.
 

DenogginizerOS

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El_TigroX said:
You're wrapping up a lot of things here.

So do you want Clinton to say something or not? You say, "He's not saying enough!" then you say "When he says stuff, people hate him, ergo won't vote for Obama!"

Should I go or should I stay?
First, Clinton is against what most Americans think about delaying the debate so he is out of touch in that regard. Second, his saying he thinks Obama will win is very different than explaning why he thinks Obama will win. Just saying he will win sounds like a token response. Fleshing out the details as to why he thinks this would serve a greater purposes. And last, praising McCain and not criticizing him is more substantitive and thus is more valuable than saying "I think he will win".
 
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