OH WOW. That City of Ember commercial with Bill Murray is AWESOME.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8tpPDVWnCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8tpPDVWnCk
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PoliGAF Thread of First Debate Election 2008 - GAF doesn't know shit
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SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Anybody have a Palin interview post-debate?
MassiveAttack
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Zeliard said:Biden is going to be so impressive in the VP debate that even Amir0x, that notorious Biden hater, will warm up to him.
Not to discount Biden at all, but the guy who mows my lawn would look impressive in a debate with Palin.
Dirtbag 504 said:
No one going to take this one?
It's definitely not an easy one to quickly respond or answer.
EDIT:Totally ignored by everyone on here. Very telling. Will get re-posted. I'm looking for someone to shoot it down as much as it excites me. This just looks like the democrat version of George Bush to me.
MaddenNFL64
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That's another thing. Railroading a moderator over & over to say extra bullshit doesn't always go in tandem with positive public perception. Sometimes you're just a dick.
Tamanon said:
Same word!
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethereal
Also, aethereal (for defs. 14).
Frank the Great said:
Not just the Palin debate, but the next couple of debates (or at least one) will be heavily centered on the economy, which is a huge plus for Obama.
All Obama had to do was hold his own tonight, since foreign policy is perceived as both his biggest weakness and McCain's biggest strength, and he did that and more. McCain did not help himself any with his poor attitude throughout and clear lack of respect for Obama. I bet even some people who always considered Obama to be the smug and condescending one looked at this debate tonight and thought: "errr.... wait a minute, it seems to be the other way around."
MassiveAttack
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SpeedingUptoStop said:
She didn't give any interviews. She's on lockdown until the VP debate... or until the McCain campaign comes up with a reason to cancel it.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
i can;t believe palin and mccain keep bringing up a second holocaust. that's fucking terrible.
if america fell off the face of the earth today, I don't believe there would be ever be a second holocaust, atleast in the way these dumb fucks imagine it.
if america fell off the face of the earth today, I don't believe there would be ever be a second holocaust, atleast in the way these dumb fucks imagine it.
one of my conservative friends on facebook just removed me from their friends list because i replied to her status update denouncing obama. :lol
she left me with this:
"lol all Obama did was go in circles and throw in the occasional "I agree with Senator McCain.." dont think I ever heard McCain agree with the amateur who couldn't listen because he kept interrupting and going back on his own word. Anyway it's my wall and I'm just speaking my opinion! Have fun with your opinion on your page"
"lol. Apparently you want other people who care enough to have stable jobs to have to worry about those who cant get up and fend for themselves. That's Obama... you really think this guy is gonna fulfill all his promises because that's all he does is talk.... I thought the Democrats were supposed to get the troops out of Iraq back in '06... didnt see that one happen. Now you want to go on foreign issues, couldnt hold his ground and for that you should watch the debate again, just do it.. a couple of times. McCain/Palin '08!"
god damn ignorants can't handle the truth. :lol
she left me with this:
"lol all Obama did was go in circles and throw in the occasional "I agree with Senator McCain.." dont think I ever heard McCain agree with the amateur who couldn't listen because he kept interrupting and going back on his own word. Anyway it's my wall and I'm just speaking my opinion! Have fun with your opinion on your page
""lol. Apparently you want other people who care enough to have stable jobs to have to worry about those who cant get up and fend for themselves. That's Obama... you really think this guy is gonna fulfill all his promises because that's all he does is talk.... I thought the Democrats were supposed to get the troops out of Iraq back in '06... didnt see that one happen. Now you want to go on foreign issues, couldnt hold his ground and for that you should watch the debate again, just do it.. a couple of times. McCain/Palin '08!"
god damn ignorants can't handle the truth. :lol
NullPointer
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A few impressions:
- Obama was on the defensive overall, but when he did make his points forcefully (Iraq, McCain's economic voting record, Pakistan), he scored.
- McCain does come across as a stodgy old general, for better or worse. His strong points are definitely his very clear and focused explanations of current strategy in Iraq and Georgia.
- All in all I think the debate was mostly blah, as it was all the talking points I've already heard a thousand times.
And a tip for Obama: While he does need to hammer home that he has always been against launching the invasion of Iraq, he really, really needs to describe his current outlook, based upon the current circumstances. Its easy to deflect everything that Obama had to say he still seems to be debating the original decision that got us into this mess. Its one thing to be right 5 years ago, its more important to be wise in your decisions right now.
Also, he has to be clearer when speaking of the current economic crisis. Saying stuff like "sure, we need to intervene" doesn't lend an air of confidence.
Both candidates passed the buck on the "how will your priorities change with this bailout". That was sad to see. neither of them gave any straight talk, and ultimately that favors McCain, with his simple "cut spending", "reduce taxes" bits.
Tip to McCain: Just don't even mention Palin. That ship has sailed... and sunk.
- Obama was on the defensive overall, but when he did make his points forcefully (Iraq, McCain's economic voting record, Pakistan), he scored.
- McCain does come across as a stodgy old general, for better or worse. His strong points are definitely his very clear and focused explanations of current strategy in Iraq and Georgia.
- All in all I think the debate was mostly blah, as it was all the talking points I've already heard a thousand times.
And a tip for Obama: While he does need to hammer home that he has always been against launching the invasion of Iraq, he really, really needs to describe his current outlook, based upon the current circumstances. Its easy to deflect everything that Obama had to say he still seems to be debating the original decision that got us into this mess. Its one thing to be right 5 years ago, its more important to be wise in your decisions right now.
Also, he has to be clearer when speaking of the current economic crisis. Saying stuff like "sure, we need to intervene" doesn't lend an air of confidence.
Both candidates passed the buck on the "how will your priorities change with this bailout". That was sad to see. neither of them gave any straight talk, and ultimately that favors McCain, with his simple "cut spending", "reduce taxes" bits.
Tip to McCain: Just don't even mention Palin. That ship has sailed... and sunk.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
That's what I thought.:lol You guys weren't talking about it too much, so I thought I'd get the conversation going.Tamanon said:
How many interviews did Biden do?
CharlieDigital
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thefro said:
From the perspective of a software/web developer, for a .gov, that site is pretty well put together and responsive.
Exactly. McCain was too adversarial - you're both running for President of the United States of America, if you're both honorable candidates with integrity putting country first then there damn well better be some common ground you can acknowledge.SpeedingUptoStop said:
KibblesBits
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I've studied body language and McCains' essentially came across as dismissive, aggitated, and concerned about Obama.
He's really threatened folks and it's plain to see.
He wouldn't make eye contact, he was constantly grapsing his podium hard, he was laughing but without humor... all the signs are there that he was not having a good time.
He's really threatened folks and it's plain to see.
He wouldn't make eye contact, he was constantly grapsing his podium hard, he was laughing but without humor... all the signs are there that he was not having a good time.
artredis1980
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CNN: Obama Won
ABC: Obama Won
MSNBC: Obama Won
Fox News: It was a Draw
CBS News: Obama Won
PBS : Obama Won
ABC: Obama Won
MSNBC: Obama Won
Fox News: It was a Draw
CBS News: Obama Won
PBS : Obama Won
I liked those bits, actually. I thought those were good for him, like McCain pointing out his bipartisan record. It was when McCain attacked him and Obama didn't or couldn't come up with a strong response that I felt he faltered. Looks like the public disagrees though, so eh.devilhawk said:
WickedAngel
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devilhawk said:
Perhaps you would do well to learn how to identify the substantive turning points of debate instead of focusing on the first or last sentence of a politician's statement.
There's a reason that every major media outlet has shown Obama up and it isn't bias or misconception.
bgassassin
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thefro said:
Thanks for the link. Just like bdizzle, I have wanted something like this for a good while now.
MassiveAttack
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Tobor said:
Holy shit... that's the VP debate strategy for the McCain campaign. Keep it as scheduled and then have Rudy show up at the very last second saying, "Hey, sorry folks. Sarah Palin had fly back to Alaska for a family emergency but I'm here to talk about 9/11!"
SpeedingUptoStop said:
That second holocaust bullshit was indeed lame, reminded me a lot of some members on here
I noticed that the little line graph thing that CNN had going went way below 50% in agreement for both the dems and independents when McCain mentioned a second holocaust.
CharlieDigital
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reilo said:
Like I said, for a .gov. Ever try browsing around some of the other .gov sites out there?
Particularly census bureau: http://www.census.gov/
Fuck, it's so difficult to get any data out of there in an efficient way.
Olbermann made this exact point only more forcefully. He thought McCain made a great point in how the next president doesn't have to deal with going into Iraq but only leaving. Olbermann thought this was a big plus for McCain. When he says something positive to McCain, it is hard real hard to disagree.NullPointer said:
Yes :\CharlieDigital said:
It's a cluster-fuck of PDFs, essentially. That's what impressed me about Obama's so much. It's not just head and shoulders above normal politico sites, but it's up there with some of the best websites, period.
Star Power
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Chris Matthews just called McCain a troll :lol :lol
got2bekidding
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Fox doesn't believe in numbas.StoOgE said:
maximum360
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artredis1980 said:
:lol
devilhawk said:
Obama has always presented himself as bi-partisan and bridging the divide, even when people try to call him the "most liberal Senator in history", or whatever (as McCain did tonight).
So him saying that he agrees with some of McCain's points, while also offering the differences between both opinions, is somehow a negative? They can't both be true. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
theinfinityissue
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artredis1980 said:
one of these things is not like the other. I'm trying to come up with a reason for that, really straining here to figure it out, and I just can't...
oh wait, yeah, it's that fox is a propaganda agency for the right. that's what it was, ok.
thefro said:
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