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nyong said:
I think Obama's actions were nothing more than a "me too" moment.

He did say he had a bracelet as well. So yeah, it's a me too.

But it still neutralized McCain's attempt to portray himself as the sole messenger from military families.
 
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AniHawk said:
Apparently my (85 year-old, Democratic) grandma was really put off by McCain's sneering last night. My parents and I all agreed that it seemed pretty much a wash. We saw it on PBS where there wasn't any split-screen stuff, so maybe that's part of it.


I was out canvasing for voters for Obama today in PA and we went door to door talking to swing voters... I heard time and time again from people that they felt that Obama won and that McCain was condescending and sneering.

Then I was called a "N***** lover" by a guy and was told "To get off my fucking porch or I'll kill you."

AHhh... Pennsylvania...

Instigator said:
He did say he had a bracelet as well. So yeah, it's a me too.

But it still neutralized McCain's attempt to portray himself as the sole messenger from military families.


It was awkward, but like you said, it neutralized it. McCain tries to say that he's the bearer of Patriotism.
 
Ether_Snake said:
Obama did the right thing, McCain tried to make it sound like military mothers are all gonna vote for him. Obama showed there was two sides to this conflict.


Agreed. Obama probably would not have brought it up either but the GOP wants American to believe that only they have the support of the troops.
 

Chiggs

Gold Member
I've been horribly stressed out about the stock market, so I decided to do some research about the current situation and if there is an upside: THERE ISN'T. Bail out or not, I've come to the conclusion that America is really fucked. This is the beginning of the end for us. Obama can have all the hope he wants, but I think when he gets in, the burden will be too great. Some of you might laugh and say I'm being reactionary, and that's fine. I'd love to hear your take on it because you might have some bit of info I can draw some optimism from.

It just stuns me that a lot of people, like my friends and family really don't seem to have a clue about what's going on. It's like they're one-month slow. They think everything that happened last week is still just the Fannie and Freddie shit. They just don't get it.

George W. Bush and Bill Clinton and other scheming pieces of shit in DC and Wall Street have effectively taken the most powerful nation on Earth and turned it to shit. I'm sure that inspires so much confidence in other democratic free market countries. America is a whore. A big fucking whore, plain and simple. We are a joke, and our credibility, if we ever even had it, is gone for a very long time.

I'm not even sure why the fuck we're even arguing in this and other threads about the Right and Left. I can't even tell the difference anymore. All I know is that there is now a huge Socialistic push taking place, and it's happening with a Right wing cowboy in office. "Oh, but he had to do it!" Great, so "we're getting all the shitty parts of Socialism" like Bill Maher said.

All I know is that, save for a miracle, the dollar will be dumped, and the great and mighty America will be left floundering to its fate. But wait, we still have our military! Will we try to pull another Iraq to help project our so-called might? Or was that just Iraq to begin with?

I just hope everyone in this country pulls their goddamn heads out of their asses and realizes that pretty much everyone in charge of Washington and Wall Street are awful human beings that deserve nothing but the worst. The next decade is going to be rough, and I hope they have it even rougher.

Speaking of 9/11 conspiracy theories :)lol!), I came across this little gem of information when I was researching our current state of affairs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpWqdPMjmo

I'm not sure how I missed this originally, but if 2.3 trillion can somehow go unaccounted for, there's no telling what kind of corruption our government is responsible for. Nothing can be ruled out. This is a whorehouse nation and we're going to get what's coming to us. As much as I hate the scumbags at the top, we the people are lazy, fat and stupid, and we are just as guilty. I feel sick to my stomach thinking about how I even towed a party line. Why? For what? The bottom has fallen out and the house of cards is crashing down. We're a joke of country that doesn't produce shit and borrows money from China to fight a fucking joke of a war.

Congratulations, America, you big horrible slut.
 

nyong

Banned
TDG said:
I think you're confusing Kerry and Gore.

Nope, I thought Gore was a douchebag too. I wasn't paying close attention to politics in 2000, though.

Kerry really rubbed me the wrong way during the debates. I refused to vote that election. Frankly, I'm not convinced things would have turned out much differently had he been elected. Possibly worse.

This election Obama is definately the lesser of two evils. I flat out cannot stand McCain. It would take a stroke of brilliance, or something horrible coming out about Obama, for me to consider voting for him at this point.
 

RiZ III

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El_TigroX said:
I was out canvasing for voters for Obama today in PA and we went door to door talking to swing voters... I heard time and time again from people that they felt that Obama won and that McCain was condescending and sneering.

Then I was called a "N***** lover" by a guy and was told "To get off my fucking porch or I'll kill you."

AHhh... Pennsylvania...




It was awkward, but like you said, it neutralized it. McCain tries to say that he's the bearer of Patriotism.

Keep up the good fight dood.
 

AniHawk

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El_TigroX said:
I was out canvasing for voters for Obama today in PA and we went door to door talking to swing voters... I heard time and time again from people that they felt that Obama won and that McCain was condescending and sneering.

Then I was called a "N***** lover" by a guy and was told "To get off my fucking porch or I'll kill you."

AHhh... Pennsylvania...

That sucks. Props to you man, for fighting the good fight.
 
Instigator said:
How come the few Republicans here hardly ever post photos of McCain/Palin events?
Because there is hardly any Republicans here? It is mainly Democrats, Independents, and a mix of random Libertarians (including me).
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Chiggs said:
Congratulations, America, you big horrible slut.
I think the idea behind the bailout is that confidence is restored so that banks begin lending again, alleviating the liquidity problem. It's not a solution to the problem-- it's just short-term boost.

What's going to be needed is more regulation, tax increases, and massive cuts in spending.

Japan rebuilt after WWII with the Yoshida Doctrine. We need a modern day Yoshida Doctrine for America.
 
El_TigroX said:
Then I was called a "N***** lover" by a guy and was told "To get off my fucking porch or I'll kill you."
Take it with pride. There are fewer and fewer good fights left and you are fighting one of them.
 

Agent Icebeezy

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Byakuya769 said:
k -gaf doesn't know shit-

apparently this situation is impervious to any kind of spin.....

McCain desired to go to Washington to get a photo op. This is a man that has publicly admitted that he doesn't know shit about the economy. McCain works in the commerce committee in the Senate and Obama works in the foreign relations committee in the Senate. Neither of them should have been there because if they were not running for president, no one would have given a shit what they said in the first place.
 

Chiggs

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Y2Kev said:
Japan rebuilt after WWII with the Yoshida Doctrine. We need a modern day Yoshida Doctrine for America.

Times ten.

And there needs to be such serious repercussions for corruption, like fear of death. I cannot even believe what I've been reading today. It's like a mixture of dumb conspiracies, lazy and crooked politicians, greedy bankers and cocksucking lobbyists. This is our country. It's sickening.
 

Ether_Snake

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speculawyer said:
Can someone allow me to have an avatar? :-(

Jeez, all I did was use a RickRoll Avatar on April 1st and I guess it was too big.

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It was 2mb yeah.
 
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speculawyer said:
Take it with pride. There are fewer and fewer good fights left and you are fighting one of them.

Thanks man, I think it's worth it - I went from my house in NJ to PA this weekend for this. I decided to write up something about it to let people know what it's like (It's far better than you expect)... but I'm too damn tired... Great day though. :)

When that dude said that to me, I was just shocked and I think I said "You're a classy man, have a great day and walked away"

:lol
 

tanod

when is my burrito
titiklabingapat said:
New(old?) ARG poll in CO has McCain leading, 47-45.

ARG has been calling me a lot. They must like my answers or something. Probably around 4 times over the last two weeks.

*lives in IA*
 

Ether_Snake

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Chiggs said:
Times ten.

And there needs to be such serious repercussions for corruption, like fear of death. I cannot even believe what I've been reading today. It's like a mixture of dumb conspiracies, lazy and crooked politicians, greedy bankers and cocksucking lobbyists. This is our country. It's sickening.

What I never understood for a longtime is, I thought the CIA and Pentagon had some power in the US? I didn't think they could be used like puppets depending on the administration's need.

You'd think they would have had a serious interest in making sure corruption and lobbyists don't get their way. The economy is a national security issue IMO, how they could have allowed this happen is beyond me.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
I don't believe ARG for a second, tbh.

And America can "rebuild." We just have to embrace defeat. Our system has brought us to the brink. We can crawl back, but we need to stop pretending nothing is wrong. Stop being the global policeman. Stop wasteful spending-- and I'm not talking about scientific research. Stop giving a shit about other shit.

We just need to go back to what we do well and just buckle down.

The difference between Japan following WWII and America is that Japan completely sputtered out of control once they had the pole position. America has led before and it can do it again.

There's a time for pessimism, but this can't be it.
 

GhaleonEB

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tanod said:
ARG has been calling me a lot. They must like my answers or something. Probably around 4 times over the last two weeks.

*lives in IA*
Nate's take on that poll:

The only poll that really stands out is ARG's McCain +3 in Colorado. Since (i) a lot of good pollsters were in the field last week in Colorado and showed Obama with a decent-sized lead, and (ii) ARG is not a good pollster, this does not really affect our model's opinion that Colorado leans fairly strongly toward Obama.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/todays-polls-927.html
 

Xeke

Banned
As much as I want to really be afraid of this crisis I really am having a hard time with it because I haven't noticed anything that has really changed in my life in the past months. My parents have never been heavily invested in the stock market, they've long since payed off their mortgage and they both work at rock solid educational institutions with tenure.

Am I ever actually going to notice this crisis?
 
Chiggs said:
I've been horribly stressed out about the stock market, so I decided to do some research about the current situation and if there is an upside: THERE ISN'T. Bail out or not, I've come to the conclusion that America is really fucked. This is the beginning of the end for us. Obama can have all the hope he wants, but I think when he gets in, the burden will be too great. Some of you might laugh and say I'm being reactionary, and that's fine. I'd love to hear your take on it because you might have some bit of info I can draw some optimism from.

It just stuns me that a lot of people, like my friends and family really don't seem to have a clue about what's going on. It's like they're one-month slow. They think everything that happened last week is still just the Fannie and Freddie shit. They just don't get it.

George W. Bush and Bill Clinton and other scheming pieces of shit in DC and Wall Street have effectively taken the most powerful nation on Earth and turned it to shit. I'm sure that inspires so much confidence in other democratic free market countries. America is a whore. A big fucking whore, plain and simple. We are a joke, and our credibility, if we ever even had it, is gone for a very long time.

I'm not even sure why the fuck we're even arguing in this and other threads about the Right and Left. I can't even tell the difference anymore. All I know is that there is now a huge Socialistic push taking place, and it's happening with a Right wing cowboy in office. "Oh, but he had to do it!" Great, so "we're getting all the shitty parts of Socialism" like Bill Maher said.

All I know is that, save for a miracle, the dollar will be dumped, and the great and mighty America will be left floundering to its fate. But wait, we still have our military! Will we try to pull another Iraq to help project our so-called might? Or was that just Iraq to begin with?

I just hope everyone in this country pulls their goddamn heads out of their asses and realizes that pretty much everyone in charge of Washington and Wall Street are awful human beings that deserve nothing but the worst. The next decade is going to be rough, and I hope they have it even rougher.

Speaking of 9/11 conspiracy theories :)lol!), I came across this little gem of information when I was researching our current state of affairs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpWqdPMjmo

I'm not sure how I missed this originally, but if 2.3 trillion can somehow go unaccounted for, there's not telling what kind of corruption our government is responsible for. Nothing can be ruled out. This is a whorehouse nation and we're going to get what's coming to us. As much as I hate the scumbags at the top, we the people are lazy, fat and stupid, and we are just as guilty. I feel sick to my stomach thinking about how I even towed a party line. Why? For what? The bottom has fallen out and the house of cards is crashing down. We're a joke of country that doesn't produce shit and borrows money from China to fight a fucking joke of a war.

Congratulations, America, you big horrible slut.

Look at Argentina and tell yourself America hasn't equaled their level of seppuku. What a waste.
 

TDG

Banned
nyong said:
Kerry really rubbed me the wrong way during the debates.
Really? Well, you were definitely in the minority on that one. Most post-debate analysis in 2004 discussed Bush's constant smirking, as well his obvious frustration. Kerry was said to have been very calm and collected.

I definitely think McCain's behavior was closer to Gore's. The difference is that Gore acted exasperated, while McCain seemed just plain angry.
 

Chiggs

Gold Member
Y2Kev said:
I don't believe ARG for a second, tbh.

And America can "rebuild." We just have to embrace defeat. Our system has brought us to the brink. We can crawl back, but we need to stop pretending nothing is wrong. Stop being the global policeman. Stop wasteful spending-- and I'm not talking about scientific research. Stop giving a shit about other shit.

We just need to go back to what we do well and just buckle down.

The difference between Japan following WWII and America is that Japan completely sputtered out of control once they had the pole position. America has led before and it can do it again.

There's a time for pessimism, but this can't be it.


We need about twenty years of down-time. And things need to be enforced, like really enforced. And manufacturing jobs need to come back. We're going to lose some businesses because of that, but we need our infastructure back.
 
speculawyer said:
Because there is hardly any Republicans here? It is mainly Democrats, Independents, and a mix of random Libertarians (including me).

It's just that those Obama photos, while often pretty, are nothing more than fawning. It's boring.

If even non-Republicans could post photos of McCain events, we'd have an opportunity to point and laugh.
 

Chiggs

Gold Member
Ether_Snake said:
The economy is a national security issue IMO, how they could have allowed this happen is beyond me.

Same here. I have no idea what the hell they were doing. Tied up with Al Qaeda?
 

NetMapel

Guilty White Male Mods Gave Me This Tag
jiggle said:
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Very epic avatar !

It has been said that more Democrats watched the debate last night than registered Republican supporters. I think this really shows that more Democrats are trying to get informed and this is a good thing.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Dax01 said:
Sounds like horseshit to me. And he says it twice.
Eh, McCain was whistling his "s" sounds into his mic throughout the entire debate, so words like "crisis" sounded more like "crishish".
 

Fatalah

Member
Xeke said:
As much as I want to really be afraid of this crisis I really am having a hard time with it because I haven't noticed anything that has really changed in my life in the past months. My parents have never been heavily invested in the stock market, they've long since payed off their mortgage and they both work at rock solid educational institutions with tenure.

Am I ever actually going to notice this crisis?

Let's just hope not.
 

Odrion

Banned
Catching the Huckabee show.

It's like Oprah, oddly.

but wow, there is some creepy vibe about it. i think it's the audience
 

tak

Member
RiZ III said:
I'm pretty sure he just said "of course it is", which makes perfect sense when you hear it in context.
I'm not sure he said horseshit either; however, it's close enough that people might easily mistake it. It wont help McCain if the question of what he said gets any airtime in either case.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
speculawyer said:
I didn't know there was a mb size limit . . . and it was just for 1 day. (It's not like wanted to keep that.)
Thanks mod Gods! :D I promise to be more careful.
You have been smiled upon. For future reference:
GAF Terms of Service said:
Avatar image size should not be greater than 90 pixels by 120 pixels, and no greater than 150k in size.
 

AniHawk

Member
Dax01 said:
Sounds like horseshit to me. And he says it twice.

I don't think he says horseshit. Sounds like "course not" or "course it is," but through McCain speak, "course" becomes "coursh".

Reminds me of the time in the primaries people were all giddy because they thought they found Carville and Snufaluffagus saying Indianans were shit, when they were really saying 'they' (Bush's people) must be shittin' themselves because Indiana was never competitive.
 
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