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I don't know why people are complaining, this sort of stuff is awesome even if "not needed" I will buy one day one even though I hardly play my ps anymore.

 

[Gaiff]

The MLiD video said 67TF, so it should perform like 33.5TF.

67TF half-precision. 33.5TF single-precision but that's calculating it with dual-compute issue. In real life, it's closer to 17TF.

 

[Quantum253]

Hope it isn't more than $500.

I'm going 699-799

 

[Puscifer]

Play in performance mode with decent visuals.

That'll require a lot more than a spec bump

 

[Giallo Corsa]

There's literally zero games out right now or coming in the near future I would consider buying a PS5 Pro for.

I mean, just being able to play FF16 at a non blur-o-vision res at 60fps, Alan Wake 2 at a proper res without the fooked up FSR shit-a-thon of an image quality, Robocop also at a proper res and framerate, Helldivers 2 at above 1080p and Dragon's dogma 2 at a non 31 cinematic® fps could be considered a win brother.

Then, you also have Death stranding 2 and GTA6 coming so...

Cheers

 

[StereoVsn]

Raster performance being under 50% improvement and no meaningful CPU upgrade is somewhat disappointing. Hopefully the new hardware based upscaling and ray tracing will make a difference.

 

[Celcius]

I plan to keep my base PS5 but I just want to know what the Pro will look like...

 

[analog_future]

So graphics performance wise, it sounds like it's going land somewhere between an AMD RX 7600xt and a RX 7700xt. Mid-tier ~$300-$400 graphics cards on the PC side, but a decent boost for console-only players.

 

[clarky]

I mean, just to be able to play FF16 at a non blur-o-vision res at 60fps, Alan Wake 2 at a proper res without the fooked up FSR shit-a-thon of an image quality, Robocop also at a proper res and framerate and Helldivers 2 above 1080p and Dragon's dogma 2 at above 31 cinematic® fps could be considered a win brother

Consider myself a winner anyways, but thanks for the confirmation.

 

[Evolved1]

There's literally zero games out right now or coming in the near future I would consider buying a PS5 Pro for.

Good, less competition on the preorder.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[SJRB]

Good, less competition on the preorder.

Now I'm gonna have to buy three and not use any of them, just to fuck with you.

 

[MisterXDTV]

So graphics performance wise, it sounds like it's going land somewhere between an AMD RX 7600xt and a RX 7700xt. Mid-tier ~$300-$400 graphics cards on the PC side, but a decent boost for console-only players.

With 300 and 400 dollars graphics cards you won't get past 1080p and will run out of VRAM

LOL

 

[cyberheater]

Very impressive specs

 

[Bojji]

2-4x faster in ray tracing I think.

Some other videos also say 300TOPs of dedicated machine learning acceleration.

No cpu improvement? Many people are saying itll take 40ish fps games to 60fps.

And btw, DLSS like upscaling means its more like 40-50TF than 30TF

It's still Zen 2 with zen 2 issues (like segmented cache), upgrading clock won't make it much better just like jaguar with speed up didn't make much difference in PS4 pro.

 

[Quantum253]

Very impressive specs

I'm wondering what Sony will show or debut the system with this summer to give it that extra wow factor.

 

[clarky]

I mean i'm in regrdless but its hardly an insta buy. Especially when 99% of their stuff runs better on hardware I already own.

GTAVI seems like the only reason to upgrade tbh.

 

[ByWatterson]

There's literally zero games out right now or coming in the near future I would consider buying a PS5 Pro for.

Any games I'm currently playing at quality mode. Which is most of them.

With a trade-in it'll cost maybe $300? Easy call.

 

[cyberheater]

Another thought. PSVR2 titles running in this should look stunning.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

I hope Avatar, Jedi Survivor and Alan Wake 2 got pro patches as I skipped them because of not best console performance/resolution

 

[jm89]

But a pro is not needed. 720p upscaled to 1440 with FSR is absolutely fine and developers haven't even used the second hidden GPU inside the PS5 yet.

Second GPU is inside the powerbrick. Cerny told me.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

Another thought. PSVR2 titles running in this should look stunning.

should be able to play 90fps native vs 120 reprojected from 60 on base model so no more reprojection blur in titles like gt7, horizon, village

 

[Lagspike_exe]

I hope Avatar, Jedi Survivor and Alan Wake 2 got pro patches as I skipped them because of not best console performance/resolution

Hoping for Jedi patch as well. FF XVI is another one that needs a patch.

 

[analog_future]

With 300 and 400 dollars graphics cards you won't get past 1080p and will run out of VRAM

LOL

That's not remotely true. The 7700xt averages about 60-70fps with maxed out modern AAA games at native 1440p, depending on ray tracing features and such.

Which makes sense, as we aren't going to see AAA native 4k/60 games with PS5 Pro. You're going to see games internally rendered at 1440p or sub 1440p resolutions, AI/ML upscaled to approximate 4k.

 

[cash_longfellow]

I've heard confirmation from gaffers that this was canceled and never made sense to begin with.

There is no PS5 Pro.

/s

I think you are confusing this with the "Switch 2"

 

[cash_longfellow]

This guy is seriously getting annoying at this point. His swings and misses the last few months have completely invalidated any relevance he had built for himself.

 

[LakeOf9]

Meaningless bullshit

 

[cash_longfellow]

Tom Henderson is never wrong.

He's never wrong when you want him to always be right

 

[Generic]

I'm going 699-799

That would be tragic. The PS4 Pro was $400 at launch.

 

[reinking]

How the hell did I go from not wanting a Pro early on when the rumors first surfaced to now deciding if I need to get two? Regardless, I am in for one. If it increases PSVR/2 performance I am in for two.

 

[TrebleShot]

So more powerful than a 4090 great

 

[cash_longfellow]

That would be tragic. The PS4 Pro was $400 at launch.

It's going to be $549 tops. Don't let these guessers fool you. These are the same people that said ps4 pro would be $599-$699

 

[MisterXDTV]

67TF half-precision. 33.5TF single-precision but that's calculating it with dual-compute issue. In real life, it's closer to 17TF.

Seems perfectly in line with Navi 32

The mobile Radeon Pro W7700 has 31.95 TF using the same metric

 

[shamoomoo]

There's literally zero games out right now or coming in the near future I would consider buying a PS5 Pro for.

That really isn't the point of the Pro,it supposed to be a PS5+,so games that fell short performance wise might get a boost in the areas the PS5 wasn't performant in.

 

[Quantum253]

That would be tragic. The PS4 Pro was $400 at launch.

Sony already said they wouldn't lower the price of the ps5 ( very low profit it at all) and a almost 50% jump in performance is going to cost more than 100. Maybe 599 to 649 but I'm thinking this is for a small group of consumers who want the absolute highest performance available and will drop the cash to have it.

 

[Generic]

Sony already said they wouldn't lower the price of the ps5 ( very low profit it at all) and a almost 50% jump in performance is going to cost more than 100. Maybe 599 to 649 but I'm thinking this is for a small group of consumers who want the absolute highest performance available and will drop the cash to have it.

Well, Sony used to subsidize consoles. Even Nintendo did it sometimes.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

This guy is seriously getting annoying at this point. His swings and misses the last few months have completely invalidated any relevance he had built for himself.

He doesn't miss with PS hardware

When Tom says something is coming you can book it

 

[Chris_Rivera]

Where exactly is all this added ray tracing perf supposed to be used. Spiderman and Ratchet and clank? Knack 3?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

There's literally zero games out right now or coming in the near future I would consider buying a PS5 Pro for.

The Last of Us Part 1: Here we Go Again PS5 Pro Edition.

 

[iHaunter]

Would 100% upgrade.

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

Where exactly is all this added ray tracing perf supposed to be used. Spiderman and Ratchet and clank? Knack 3?

some games that also didn't have raytracing are rumored to get ray tracing post patch.

I personally want Gran turismo ray tracing during gameplay.

edit
hopefully higher quality reflections like this but at 4k upscale 60fps

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

So that's like what? A custom 7700xt? 7700 non-xt?

 

[Gaiff]

I'm going 699-799

Based on the leaks, $600 tops.

 

[Silver Wattle]

If true, I believe that a journalist is the one that sent him the leak, they have likely been sitting on it for months but couldn't leak themselves so have used the fake leaker to do it for them.

I still doubt it as MLID is a bullshit peddler.

 

[Tajaz2426]

There's literally zero games out right now or coming in the near future I would consider buying a PS5 Pro for.

Maybe stop waiting for Big Trouble in Little China, like I am?

 

[rofif]

45% is not much.
that takes 30fps to 43 lol - 900$ please.
we dont need this. and spectral AA can be probably done on normal ps5 too

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I'm more interesred at how Sony is going to market this

 

[Mibu no ookami]

For people squawking about there not being any new major game to release with this, I'm growing so weary of the disingenuous discord here.

It doesn't need a new game, it needs games that will support it at launch whether they are new or not.

People like to pretend like they've purchased and played every game that has ever released. It's why they pretend like they're so angry about remakes of games they never played.

Sony has Until Dawn coming out this year and I'm sure it'll support the PS5 Pro among other titles like Concord. There are a litany of games Sony can update to support PS5 Pro and if you're going to pretend like these games don't matter, why would one more game matter?

Everyone has a huge back catalog of games and those games are going to be better on PS5 Pro most likely.

 

[bitbydeath]

67TF half-precision. 33.5TF single-precision but that's calculating it with dual-compute issue. In real life, it's closer to 17TF.

That's like downplaying the current 10 as 5, it doesn't matter as it's all AMD. As it stands we are looking at 10 vs 33.

 

[N30RYU]

Plan renove?