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[shamoomoo]

Maybe the custom AMD 7800/7700XT chipset was true as well.

Probably not,the rumor is the Pro uses 2 shader engines,Navi 32 uses 3 SEs with 5 work group processors each if I got the number of WGPs right. The Pro's GPU is similar to the Series X in terms of setup.

 

[balls of snow]

I'm wondering what Sony will show or debut the system with this summer to give it that extra wow factor.

At this point safe to say all would be 3rd party games unless sony has a secret non sequel banger tucked away somewhere.

 

[Kilau]

Oh great, I can't wait to power this Pro model on.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

I'm more interesred at how Sony is going to market this

How does Apple market the iPhone Pro?

This will have better graphics and framerates. It kind of markets itself.

It'll be marketed as the most powerful home console on the market.

 

[Putonahappyface]

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

45% is not much.
that takes 30fps to 43 lol - 900$ please.
we dont need this. and spectral AA can be probably done on normal ps5 too

you forget before 120HZ monitors some games were locked at 30fps that actually could run at 40fps, and 45% higher could take it to 60fps

edit also not likely regular ps5 can do it if it is using 300Trillion operation machine learning accelerator to run it.

 

[OGM_Madness]

Just wait… 33.5 Teraflops, but 8GB of RAM

 

[Quantum253]

Based on the leaks, $600 tops.

I mean everyone lost their minds when the PS3 launched at $599 (60GB) model, but it still sold. I would think since the costs are already prohibiting lowering the PS5 price, a Pro model would carry a hefty price. I don't mind paying less for more though.

 

[Gaiff]

That’s like downplaying the current 10 as 5, it doesn’t matter as it’s all AMD. As it stands we are looking at 10 vs 33.

Nope, we aren't. Pretty much no game leverages dual-issue compute. It's not exactly easy to do and furthermore, the differences wouldn't be linear. You ain't getting 3.3x the compute of the PS5.

 

[rofif]

you forget before 120HZ monitors some games were locked at 30fps that actually could run at 40fps, and 45% higher could take it to 60fps

edit also not likely regular ps5 can do it if it is using 300Trillion operation machine learning accelerator to run it.

I wouldn't count on many of those games getting unlock patch based on ps4 pro or ps5 patches.

 

[bitbydeath]

Nope, we aren't. Pretty much no game leverages dual-issue compute. It's not exactly easy to do and furthermore, the differences wouldn't be linear. You ain't getting 3.3x the compute of the PS5.

Not sure what you mean, nobody’s arguing we are getting the full 67TF…

 

[Draugoth]

$700 it is

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

8k is a meme

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

There's literally zero games out right now or coming in the near future I would consider buying a PS5 Pro for.

Then you never would've considered it to begin with because there are plenty of big games releasing now and on the next couple years

 

[shamoomoo]

Nope, we aren't. Pretty much no game leverages dual-issue compute. It's not exactly easy to do and furthermore, the differences wouldn't be linear. You ain't getting 3.3x the compute of the PS5.

Says who? Obviously third party are going to hit or miss with dual issuing but first party are going to use it.

 

[jroc74]

I'm more interesred at how Sony is going to market this

Yup, already the 33TF is causing issues.

I hope they think about the PS6 and dont try to go for max profits with this. IMO $599 needs to be the max.

 

[rofif]

Also, of course I will get it but I am not looking forward to pre-ordering.
Anything playstation in poland is hard to get. I even had to order elites from german amazon because Poland market got shafted and elites delayed into april

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

How does Apple market the iPhone Pro?

This will have better graphics and framerates. It kind of markets itself.

It'll be marketed as the most powerful home console on the market.

well I mean.

They will use those bullet points. I'm talking about how heavy/nasty or subdued the marketing is going to be

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

The ps5 could run nanite at 60+fps 1440p, iirc. The issue was lumen, lumen was giving ps5 performance issues, they said optimizations might help after first demo, but it seems they didn't do much so far. But with 3 to 4 x the ray tracing performance, it is very likely ps5 can run UE5 games at 60fps with both lumen and nanite, at upscaled 4k.

 

[mitch1971]

There's literally zero games out right now or coming in the near future I would consider buying a PS5 Pro for.

Horace goes skiing remaster.

 

[Gaiff]

Says who? Obviously third party are going to hit or miss with dual issuing but first party are going to use it.

I'm hopeful first-party devs will but there are several caveats. For one, you won't get a straight performance increase. For two, the regular PS5's SIMDs don't have dual-compute capabilities so this means that Sony's devs would have to do (presumably) a lot of extra work to leverage this. Dunno if they will bother or even if they do, if the performance uptick will be worth it.

I have 0 faith in third-party devs.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

It's still Zen 2 with zen 2 issues (like segmented cache), upgrading clock won't make it much better just like jaguar with speed up didn't make much difference in PS4 pro.

This is what I'm afraid of man ...ps4 pro was really only good for a resolution increase

 

[Perrott]

There's literally zero games out right now or coming in the near future I would consider buying a PS5 Pro for.

We'll see 10 weeks from now.

 

[Quantum253]

Also, of course I will get it but I am not looking forward to pre-ordering.
Anything playstation in poland is hard to get. I even had to order elites from german amazon because Poland market got shafted and elites delayed into april

I think everyone got shafted on the PS5 pre-order announcement. Sony heads said don't worry, it will go live this day for pre-orders then Walmart decided to do it earlier and everyone followed suit, so by the time the news got ouy, pre-orders were sold out.

 

[FingerBang]

I imagine the game that will showcase the power of th PS5 Pro will be the Horizon remake. Cause that's still happening guys, and I don't want you to forget.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Yup, already the 33TF is causing issues.

I hope they think about the PS6 and dont try to go for max profits with this. IMO $599 needs to be the max.

Expensivier than that isn't going to look good.

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

This is what I'm afraid of man ...ps4 pro was really only good for a resolution increase

was zen2 shown to scale badly with clock increases? I assume they wouldn't increase clocks unless decent performance gains were obtained.

 

[GoldenEye98]

dual issue compute? I guess I am behind on my GPU knowledge.

So the single precision is now really half precision?

 

[SHA]

PS5 Pro Specs Leak are Real, Releasing Holiday 2024

The leaked PS5 Pro specs leaked earlier today are real and the PlayStation 5 is still tentatively targeting a 2025 holiday release.

insider-gaming.com

33.5 flops? Jesus! Lisa "the generous" Su
, is she really okay?

 

[Shambala]

 

[Represent.]

I'm more interesred at how Sony is going to market this

Its really very simple.

It will sell itself

 

[rofif]

Its really very simple.

It will sell itself

1080p vs 1200p

 

[GoldenEye98]

I'm guessing $600...which basically means $800 CAD

 

[shamoomoo]

I'm hopeful first-party devs will but there are several caveats. For one, you won't get a straight performance increase. For two, the regular PS5's SIMDs don't have dual-compute capabilities so this means that Sony's devs would have to do (presumably) a lot of extra work to leverage this. Dunno if they will bother or even if they do, if the performance uptick will be worth it.

I have 0 faith in third-party devs.

I'm not sure what's the limit on RDNA3s dual issuing capability or what the PS5 can run,but I would assume there should be a 2x speed up of for some type of operations on the Pro because the base PS5 is already using it. Think of back compat mode on PS4 games running on the PS5.

 

[PSYGN]

I was shitposting on the thought of PS5 Pro but those specs making me reconsider. Come out around GTA 6 and it'll be a no brainer, people want to experience that on the latest console revision out.

 

[clarky]

Horace goes skiing remaster.

ZX Spectrum massive in the house.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Its really very simple.

It will sell itself

with or without marketing deal on PS5?

 

[LordCBH]

I want it for GTA6 and Ghost of Tushy 2

 

[Mithos]

I'm guessing $600...which basically means $800 CAD

Hope not, based on the PS5 price... a us$600 PS5Pro would end up us$800-900 here...

 

[bitbydeath]

1080p vs 1200p

7680p in resolution mode.

 

[Represent.]

with or without marketing deal on PS5?

I've literally never in my life heard someone say "damn I gotta buy a new Xbox for GTA6"

Its always PS5

Now it will be PS5 Pro

For me ill get one for GTA6 and New ND game

 

[Lucifers Beard]

It's still Zen 2 with zen 2 issues (like segmented cache), upgrading clock won't make it much better just like jaguar with speed up didn't make much difference in PS4 pro.

I think a lot of people will ignore comments like this. If the CPU is still Zen 2 (which it was always going to be) then resolution will be bumped and FPS might be more stable in some cases, but 30fps games will still be 30fps for the most part.

 

[SHA]

Jensen Huang is having a hard time, he can't cope with 33.5tf consoles, that'll damage his ego, I mean he just retired the gtx series, and now dealing with raw performance, that's a lot of turning off Nvidia's feature sets.

 

[clarky]

Its really very simple.

It will sell itself

This.

The model they had last time was so successful why change it? Every nerd in the world will triple dip and if the cost of development is even half true they need us to.

Online will be the main event this time nerds unfortunately.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

and spectral AA can be probably done on normal ps5 too

if on 300tops take 2ms I doubt it

 

[Skifi28]

I think a lot of people will ignore comments like this. If the CPU is still Zen 2 (which it was always going to be) then resolution will be bumped and FPS might be more stable in some cases, but 30fps games will still be 30fps for the most part.

Sure, but 99% of games we know so far are GPU limited so that doesn't seem like a big issue. Zen2 on console is no 120fps CPU, but it seems to be holding just fine for 60 even with RT in the majority of cases.

 

[sachos]

Up to x4 RT performance with what i assume is AI upscaling? Niiice, this is the stuff i was expecting for the PS6. Really excited to see those DF analysis. Only disappointment may be the seemingly lacking CPU upgrades.

 

[Chris_Rivera]

some games that also didn't have raytracing are rumored to get ray tracing post patch.

I personally want Gran turismo ray tracing during gameplay.

edit
hopefully higher quality reflections like this but at 4k upscale 60fps

I don’t see Sony doing a good job of patching released games, adding ray tracing/pssr, etc. They barely get unlocked/vrr added. The ps4 pro was a pretty shitty bridge to ps5 in my opinion, I’m sure this will be similar.

 

[GoldenEye98]

Hope not, based on the PS5 price... a us$600 PS5Pro would end up us$800-900 here...

I don't see how it's less than $600

 

[rofif]

some games that also didn't have raytracing are rumored to get ray tracing post patch.

I personally want Gran turismo ray tracing during gameplay.

edit
hopefully higher quality reflections like this but at 4k upscale 60fps

The problem with gt7 is poor image quality and aliasing for me