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[Matt_Fox]

"LET'S GET READY TO RUUUU... sorry... HAAAAAAAPTIC!"

 

[Panajev2001a]

That’s what I was thinking as well
30 page thread incoming

if that image of the trigger is actually the mechanism this thing is gonna snap after a month of COD

Genuine “concern” I see .

Interesting, thank you. I suppose the other consideration as well is how much power it uses compared to traditional rumble.

Mind I know the touchpad uses loads. I really wish they had just made it two big buttons in none PS4 mode to greatly extend battery life.

LRA’s actually can be both stronger and use less power (they are just a bit more expensive). For a good haptics feedback motors overview: https://www.ti.com/lit/an/sloa194/sloa194.pdf?ts=1601279816100&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk%2F

 

[Traxtech]

Where's the battery

 

[RPS37]

I’m excited that it seems like the overall shape is more ergonomic like an Xbox controller.

 

[Knitted Knight]

Where's the battery

Good question. Not shown from what I can see.

 

[CrysisFreak]

Because it’s a rumble trigger, show me the resistance, or the “feedback” it’s not there. It’s a motor in the trigger same as the XB1.

Mate you're literally implying that it doesn't have a feature they were actually talking about for a whole year.
Don't you think that's a bit risky?
I mean if so then yeah let's hate them but come on I think you're sperging out here.
Jeez.

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

First of all I have to say that a) the new playstation pad is probably what has me most excited about the entire console, as going back and forth from my elite to the el-cheapo ps4 pad was a sad experience.
b) we need proper stripdown and hands-on, or at least more and better info before we reach conclusions


but

... and yet you jumped on it and called it marketing BS and just the same as Impulse Triggers without seeing all the images especially the one focused on the triggers ?!?

Sony has been tooting the horn of next-gen adaptive triggers haptics with varying resistance and feel.

When I tried to say that the point here is to have tactile feedback of varying levels, again I was cursed by a bunch of people,
"daring" to compare to existing microsoft tech for a whole generation.


Seeing these pictures of the ps5 triggers, it seems they do not comply with what was said.
Maybe part of the mechanism is missing from the pics, like the battery is missing. We dont know.
But if that's all of it shown, then maybe we are going to have another "we believe in generations" moment.



ps/ Here's a pic of microsoft's patent for "trigger feedback mechanism" for reference

 

[GymWolf]

It looks like a controller.

 

[Raonak]

lmfao, add another one to the console war conspiracy list.
"Blurry screenshots reveal all! Sony caught lying about resistance triggers!"

 

[Redlight]

I think they'll be some kind of resistance, at least on the triggers, it's crossing a distinct line between marketing and bullshit if it's just rumble.

 

[captainraincoat]

Didnt this thing have an inbuilt mic?
The speaker on the ds4 was a very underrated feature and probably one of the best features stolen from the Wii controls so im keen to see if its speaker and mic

 

[Azurro]

I heard the same thing last gen, horror games were going to measure heart rate and perspiration through Kinect.

A game could tell if gamers were having fun or getting mad.

Devs tend to say a lot of things when towing the company line early in the gen.

Let’s not pretend this one is going to the be the first.

This is a really ignorant point of view - "An unrelated thing was not true from a completely different company before, therefore it's all lies".

It just makes you look stupid, tbh.

 

[Phrixotrichus]

 

[yurinka]

If you look closer to the motherboard picture there's a pixel-art bigfoot there

 

[mejin]

Rumble am cry.

I expect MS to copy the tech for their next elite controller.

 

[RokkanStoned]

I'm in the I've seen better group, last time I checked PS2 controllers looked better disassembled (probably PS3 as well), but maybe it would look better not disassembled, but with a transparent body. Not that it matters how it looks on the inside, unless it's got a transparent design.

 

[Hostile_18]

Didnt this thing have an inbuilt mic?
The speaker on the ds4 was a very underrated feature and probably one of the best features stolen from the Wii controls so im keen to see if its speaker and mic

Yeah this whole thing seems iffy to me. No battery, no 5 internal speaker array, I can't see any rumble.

 

[saintjules]

No credit to saintjules

Don't worry, I'm watermarking my stuff from now on.

 

[Traxtech]

The photo with the controller on the paper looks fake too, it has no shadow yet the paper is casting one. Calling bs considering there is no battery, no speaker related parts and no mic

 

[OneShotThrill]

Now we gonna troll the controller thread...some you got to get a fucking life. This forum is getting unbearable.

 

[Imtjnotu]

Because it’s a rumble trigger, show me the resistance, or the “feedback” it’s not there. It’s a motor in the trigger same as the XB1.

Glad to see your monitor is 12k and you get these photos in full resolution

 

[Insane Metal]

That seems pretty elaborate tbh. There's separate circuitry/motors for the triggers and the motors on the controller body seem huge (or double?)

 

[Tripolygon]

That looks a hell of a lot more complex than rumble trigger. See the distance between the motor and the trigger and in front of the motor there is a gear looking mechanism.

Xbox One rumble trigger has an ERM motor directly behind the triggers.

 

[Clear]

The longer they avoid it, the worse it’s going to look when people finally get inside.

What's that supposed to mean? People are going to be angry about pcb layouts?

 

[Agnostic2020]

I feel some people like him have weird obsession with pcb boards nd assume everyone wants to see it .

All people want to see is games running on the console so they know what they r getting .thats all for 95% of gamers.

What's that supposed to mean? People are going to be angry about pcb layouts?

 

[Tripolygon]

The longer they avoid it, the worse it’s going to look when people finally get inside.

Do some of you actually take a moment to think about what you say before you say it?

Its going to look worse because they did not open up the console and show you the PCB?

 

[OnThePathToWisdom]

Spoiler

Overdesigned much?

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Looks like it really is rumble triggers. Nice they threw some buzzwords on it.

how the hell did you come up with this? Xbox One controllers vibrates, dualsense triggers have different levels of resistance. A motor accomplishing both these features doesnt make them the same. Lmao.

 

[Panajev2001a]

What's that supposed to mean? People are going to be angry about pcb layouts?

“Concern Concern, doubt, fear, concern...” at least this is the translation Google Translate gave me, but you know Google Translate... punctuation and grammar may be f’ed up in there .

 

[iHaunter]

Did they talk about the quality of the streaming from the PS5? Like what resolution you can stream share your game from? The previous encoding was in the controller as well no?

 

[On Demand]

Are people still confused about the adaptive triggers that have resistance? Wow. XB1 and SX controllers are nothing like this. They just rumble. Old school tech. They did nothing new from last generation. DualSense is completely different.

 

[Warnen]

One thing for sure, gonna hope the color version hit fast cause dam

 

[THEAP99]

So this is our news for the week

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

.

 

[martino]

Some people must be electronic genius with series "enhance" software to deduce like they do....
for me it's

 

[Unknown?]

Because it’s a rumble trigger, show me the resistance, or the “feedback” it’s not there. It’s a motor in the trigger same as the XB1.

Do you actually believe yourself right now? We already have confirmation of games using the adaptive pressures and even blocking it from being pressed all together.

 

[Manwithoutfear]

im glad they're copying the design of the xbox controller more this time. looks much more comfortable than ds3/ds4.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Definitely looks like a controller. Hope the shell doesn't feel as cheap as DS4.

 

[Birdo]

 

[danielJackson]

That’s what I was thinking as well
30 page thread incoming

if that image of the trigger is actually the mechanism this thing is gonna snap after a month of COD

You can play games without torturing the controller, you know?

All the people I know that complain about controllers are those that play like retards, using more force than arm wrestlers and smashing buttons/sticks/triggers like idiots.

It is not any faster than using precise amount of control&force

 

[MarkMe2525]

I don't know why a fanboy would set themselves up to be proven wrong by claiming it's the same as X1 trigger rumble. There is no evidence of that and people who have actually worked on the games have said differently.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Yes this is a controller.

Mate you're literally implying that it doesn't have a feature they were actually talking about for a whole year.
Don't you think that's a bit risky?
I mean if so then yeah let's hate them but come on I think you're sperging out here.
Jeez.

I too remember the Sixaxis and how that controller's heptic feedback changed gaming forever.

 

[Barnabot]

looks like it has the same shitty l2/r2 shoulder buttons as the previous ds4. also i guess whoever did this disassembly saved the battery for another disappointing news. now i expect the same battery life as the ds4.

 

[Psajdak]

Sony - liars.

 

[Tomeru]

Looks like it really is rumble triggers. Nice they threw some buzzwords on it.

Where did you spot the rumble? Honestly asking.

 

[BaneIsPain]

That is one sexy strip of dual sense.

 

[FrankWza]

No credit to saintjules




Just in case Instagram doesn't load properly:

@Snowdonhoffen

Those are the inner organs of the PS5's next gen DualSense controller..... powering its unique haptic feedback, and adaptive triggers. Looks very compact, and quite a nightmare to assemble compared to the Dualshock 4 - as someone who has opened his to fix the common analog stick drifts. Quite a departure from the Dualschock 4.

damn, looks like swapping out the analog sticks is gonna be annoying. And the sticks look identical to DS4

 

[IbizaPocholo]

PS5’s DualSense controller is torn down in more Instagram images | VGC

Peripheral company shows inner workings of DualSense’s adaptive triggers…

www.videogameschronicle.com

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

First of all I have to say that a) the new playstation pad is probably what has me most excited about the entire console, as going back and forth from my elite to the el-cheapo ps4 pad was a sad experience.
b) we need proper stripdown and hands-on, or at least more and better info before we reach conclusions


but


Sony has been tooting the horn of next-gen adaptive triggers haptics with varying resistance and feel.

When I tried to say that the point here is to have tactile feedback of varying levels, again I was cursed by a bunch of people,
"daring" to compare to existing microsoft tech for a whole generation.


Seeing these pictures of the ps5 triggers, it seems they do not comply with what was said.
Maybe part of the mechanism is missing from the pics, like the battery is missing. We dont know.
But if that's all of it shown, then maybe we are going to have another "we believe in generations" moment.



ps/ Here's a pic of microsoft's patent for "trigger feedback mechanism" for reference

Microsoft has always had the best triggers in the industry, I'm not very confident in Sony matching them.

We'll see tho.

 

[Empire Strikes Back]

PS5’s DualSense controller is torn down in more Instagram images | VGC

Peripheral company shows inner workings of DualSense’s adaptive triggers…

www.videogameschronicle.com

Those voice-coil actuators are thicc.