DrGonzo615
Banned
This is what Im wondering myself. Just reserved a copy on Redbox for the weekend to find out.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
This is what Im wondering myself. Just reserved a copy on Redbox for the weekend to find out.
The Elite
BOSS
Randoms have been fine so far. Only exception was one game with some idiot who was deliberately team killing. Otherwise it seems most people know what is up and what they need to do in this game.
Chronospherics
Member
Why would you play with randoms? Befriend some randoms so that they are no longer randoms, and it will be better.
Subterranean
Member
Shocks you when you go to breach charge the wall.
Enemys cant place breachs , very effective
Or place jammer too
Shock wire kills drone, or dmg enemy
Think you can even slap it on deployable shield lol
Chronospherics
Member
And prevents the charge from being activated. Even if they do decide to withstand the shocks.
I think jammer is better for the walls, as on the smaller ones you can jam two walls with one jammer, and mute has 4 jammers, so you can jam 8 walls compared to bandits 3.
Bandit is better for killing drones than mute is though. It's too easy to jump the jammers and the signal interference gives you a warning that they're nearby. Though mute can place out jammers faster...
I guess mute is a better character, overall, since the actual damage from shock is very rarely substantial and he has extra amour which I tend to appreciate more than mobility.
You can get kills with bandit by placing shockwire at the bottom of skylight rappel points though. There's usually shrubbery at the bottom so people often miss the electrowire.
WHAT!? Is this confirmed to be true?
Yea did it many times on betas
SoapNickTavish
Member
I love this game.
http://xboxclips.com/Soap+NickTavish/bd610750-a656-4196-b4f8-7c704a25262b
Came back and won as Ash after being down 1v4. So intense.
Still wish there was a coop campaign, but I'm very surprised with this title, especially with how they seem to be catering to the hardcore crowd. Hope the community stays strong.
http://xboxclips.com/Soap+NickTavish/bd610750-a656-4196-b4f8-7c704a25262b
Came back and won as Ash after being down 1v4. So intense.
Still wish there was a coop campaign, but I'm very surprised with this title, especially with how they seem to be catering to the hardcore crowd. Hope the community stays strong.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
and wheeeeeere is it 35ish at?
Phanatic8390
Member
I kicked open a door last night that was nowhere near the objective and then tripped one. I don't think I've ever felt so stupid in my life.
I think the three biggest issues to tackle now are:
1) Netcode/Tick Rate
2) Trap visibility
3) IQ special ability
2 and 3 go hand in hand. If traps become harder to spot IQ becomes more valuable. It's really a testament to how great the game is that there seems to be little needed to balance out. Just a few operators feel underpowered. I can't really think of any that are OP either.
Broadbandito
Member
same dude, We gotta start getting serious
yankeehater
Member
One message, it had 2 buttons under it to redeem codes. But for Gears ultimate I got 3 different messages each with one code. The code messages seem to be a bit random.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Just got this with my 980. Shame they couldn't give a Steam code and only a Uplay one. Dabbed a bit and it's a ton of fun so far.
Amazing. I love rolling with bandit on defence so I'll definitely start doing this. I've just been putting them on the ground.
HawksWinStanley
Member
Oh I'm just going in on the buy 2 get 1 free deal with some friends at Best Buy next week.
We were all going to grab Tomb Raider and split the cost evenly $96 / 3 = $32 + tax but I was maybe going to snag Siege instead.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
People complaining aboud random headshot ohk's... I am not in that camp.
I hope ubi doesn't cave to pressure on that. Those complaints are not coming from the OG Rainbow players. It's bleedover from modern shooters and those players thinking their skill should get them through a 1v1 or whatever. And that is completely missing the point of Rainbow combat. Imo anyway.
I hope ubi doesn't cave to pressure on that. Those complaints are not coming from the OG Rainbow players. It's bleedover from modern shooters and those players thinking their skill should get them through a 1v1 or whatever. And that is completely missing the point of Rainbow combat. Imo anyway.
Had some absolutely amazing games earlier today with soctos. Highlight for me was us crouching next to and hugging the hostage and the enemy gunning him down as soon as they enter. I am still laughing about it.
This. Laughed so hard.
I think when we use the "drop a shield by the hostage" tactic, it only serves to protect the hostage from fire, which is probably more of a detriment. I haven't seen anyone mistake the hostage for a player yet.
But man, when you get a group of 5 working together, coordinating on mics, playing against an equally skilled team... there is just nothing like it. So fun. Here's hoping the devs do whatever it takes to keep this game going strong.
Krappadizzle
Member
The AA is terrible on anything other than max and it dithers distant objects a bit more than I'd like. U.I. Is okay, the lack of a map is a big oversight though. I don't need a mini-map, but I'd like to be able to pull out a map whenever I want to coordinate with my team better.
But it does do some things very well. I like how lighting works in this game. How if it's very bright out, it's hard to see into a buildings windows/doorways giving a real purpose to Glaz's scope or how when an assault starts the smoke and debris from walls/doors/breeches will fill a room. The audio is a definite high point as well, the way sound propagation works is very well done and the sound effects of weapons and environments are mostly pretty good if bordering on the unrealistic(I wonder when a dev will actually use the sound of a real silencer in a game). It also runs very well on my PC at 1440p and I'm grateful for that.
Overall I'm pretty happy with the presentation.
GMG has it for $40 if you have a PC.
Chronospherics
Member
I was playing with a buddy last night who just got the game, showing him the ropes and stuff.
I ended up making a highlight reel from some of the matches. All of these are from last night and I've included commentary.
Video
Let me know what you think, as I actually might make some more Siege vids.
I ended up making a highlight reel from some of the matches. All of these are from last night and I've included commentary.
Video
Let me know what you think, as I actually might make some more Siege vids.
Anton Sugar
Member
At first I didn't like it, but now I kinda love that you get the option of matchmaking with a different team after a round vs playing the same team.
It kinda speaks to the core of the game, at its best. When we were losing to this team last night, and eventually lost the game, we decided to play them again to REGAIN OUR HONOR.
However, there was also another team that was just thoroughly stomping us. Instead of getting stuck against them, round-after-round (and likely getting stomped as often), we just let matchmaking do its thing.
Not sure if this is common in many other shooters, but I like it.
Oh, absolutely. The trick may be finding a good team of randoms that uses their mics, but even without it, the game is a lot of fun online.
Same. Had a lot of fun with those games, but they were never R6 to me.
It kinda speaks to the core of the game, at its best. When we were losing to this team last night, and eventually lost the game, we decided to play them again to REGAIN OUR HONOR.
However, there was also another team that was just thoroughly stomping us. Instead of getting stuck against them, round-after-round (and likely getting stomped as often), we just let matchmaking do its thing.
Not sure if this is common in many other shooters, but I like it.
Oh, absolutely. The trick may be finding a good team of randoms that uses their mics, but even without it, the game is a lot of fun online.
Same. Had a lot of fun with those games, but they were never R6 to me.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
Foxtastical
Member
I don't know how I know Sir MJC, but he's in your video and now my friend list. Just a weird coincidence. I think I know him. I think? Haha.I was playing with a buddy last night who just got the game, showing him the ropes and stuff.
I ended up making a highlight reel from some of the matches. All of these are from last night and I've included commentary.
Video
Let me know what you think, as I actually might make some more Siege vids.
Nightshade
Member
I agree. You need to be setting yourself up better if you keep getting sprayed in the head. Headshots are good as they are.
Anton Sugar
Member
Yeah, I love that HDR lighting finally has a functional purpose in games, other than to be annoying.
This is the only game I've played (recently, at least) that I refuse to play without headphones, too. Soundscape is just too important.
Minimum is 460, he should be able to run the game ok.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Siege is far more twitchy than Rainbow proper. You can, for example, play Ash as a low-recoil modern CoD'ish run and gun, and mow down the other team. But you do so with the understanding that one random pistol round through the drywall can end your spree.
Your choice.
Play cautiously, hug nonpermeable surfaces exposing as little of yourself as possible, you substantially reduce that risk.
At its core, Rainbow has always been about risk assessment, and decisions based on it. Twitching got you fucking killed in OG Rainbow. Now it's more viable, but there will always be that high risk. Risk vs Reward is why I accept this new twitchy play in Siege. But remove the risk and suddenly this game is every other goddamned shooter on the market. Except in this one you can shoot through stuff.
Please, for fuck's sake... dont.
We finally, finally have something here.
Your choice.
Play cautiously, hug nonpermeable surfaces exposing as little of yourself as possible, you substantially reduce that risk.
At its core, Rainbow has always been about risk assessment, and decisions based on it. Twitching got you fucking killed in OG Rainbow. Now it's more viable, but there will always be that high risk. Risk vs Reward is why I accept this new twitchy play in Siege. But remove the risk and suddenly this game is every other goddamned shooter on the market. Except in this one you can shoot through stuff.
Please, for fuck's sake... dont.
We finally, finally have something here.
Chronospherics
Member
Man I don't know, was he opposition? How did he die in the vid? Hope he wasn't the guy freaking out shooting ghosts at the end. I thought that part was really funny.
The last clip was right after I 5-0ed them as the last man on offense. So I'm imagining the last man was kind of tense.
Reminds me of The Last of Us, where in situations like that players will sometimes throw a molotov at the floor and burn themselves to death sooner than face the 5 vs 1. Some people don't handle / don't like the pressure, heh.
HawksWinStanley
Member
Is there a lot of online co-op stuff? I can't seem to find much co-op talk in reviews.
Maybe I'll go ahead and grab this then. I'm a huge fan of low player count + high-tensity tactical shooters. Obviously they're not the same genre but it's the biggest reason I love Gears so much. Small intimate maps with no radar and a lot of teamwork needed.
Maybe I'll go ahead and grab this then. I'm a huge fan of low player count + high-tensity tactical shooters. Obviously they're not the same genre but it's the biggest reason I love Gears so much. Small intimate maps with no radar and a lot of teamwork needed.
Anton Sugar
Member
Terrorist Hunt is basically co-op: you and other players versus a ton of AI.
Also, slight spoiler:
there is one unlockable co-op "scenario". Hoping they add more.
Terrorist Hunt is the co-op mode, you and 4 others vs the AI
Has matchmaking and play with friends.
HawksWinStanley
Member
Good stuff, thanks brahs. Read about the Terrorist Hunt (which is apparently pretty awesome) but didn't put 2 and 2 together that it was the co-op mode.
Chronospherics
Member
They're not the same genre but the sense of tension and atmosphere certainly do extend between the two! I played quite a bit of Gears 1 and 2, and TLOU. I actually think I enjoy this more though.
I would go as far to say that this is the most fun I've had on a multiplayer shooter, ever. I used to play a lot of COD as a kid, 3.7 KDR on MW2... and I have good memories of that... but I ended up quitting because I didn't feel like it had competitive validity. I was basically farming kills from people that barely even seemed like they wanted to live. It's not very satisfying.
That's a big difference between this game and others. On Siege everyone has a solid sense of self-preservation. Everyone wants to be alive. On almost all modern shooters there's people who just don't care, or aren't playing at all.
Last week I got a 31 killstreak on Black Ops 3, but two of the people in that streak, weren't even playing. While I think the streak was impressive, the fact is that those two kills propagated my killstreak rewards early, and as a result it left me with a feeling 'would I have even done well if those two were actually playing?'. If even one player gives up, or AFKs, or whatever activity they tend to do while pretending to play video games, that completely ruins the matches validity, and undermines everything I do.
On Siege, when play I actually that everyone is going to be playing, and I know that everyone is going to be fighting for their life, down to the last bullet. That makes it all the more satisfying if you do manage to take their life away from them, and you just don't get that in many other games.
SoapNickTavish
Member
Were you responding to his video or mine? There's a Sir MJC in my video, I play with him and he posts on here. Didn't see one in his video...his is captured from a also PS4, I'm on Xbox. Be a weird coincidence if there was one in both videos on two different platforms lol.
Still feel bad about shooting my buddy through the back of his head
I play defense almost exclusively as him, and I've found what works best is to not put the traps on doors/windows near the objective, but in adjacent areas where the firefights are likely to spill over into. When someone is getting shot at, they run for cover, and in that panic, they run through a door with a trip mine. Last night I got maybe six kills over a few hours with the traps. Though I do think they could tone down the brightness of the laser or the giant screw sticking out the opposite side of the door/window they are attached to.
Chronospherics
Member
Were you responding to his video or mine? There's a Sir MJC in my video, I play with him and he posts on here. Didn't see one in his video, he's also on PS4. Be a weird coincidence if there was one in both videos on two different platforms lol.
Still feel bad about shooting my buddy through the back of his head
That would make more sense, otherwise, that certainly would be an odd coincidence.
User 479360
Banned
Are we expecting huge expansions as DLC, stuff that would be review worthy?
In January, they'll have a new Operation but I wouldn't expect it to be like CSGO in that aspect.
Yeah, it requires Uplay regardless of where you buy it.
Anton Sugar
Member
Reposting some "first steps" for beginners:
- Tutorials: Watch all three tutorial videos (you can skip through them) for an easy 800 credits (200 per vid + 200 for completing all of them)
- Scenarios: Scenarios are, for the most part, pretty easy, have easy 200 credit challenges (can get up to 600 bonus credits for completing all challenges), and can be run on harder difficulties for bonus payouts
- uPlay: When I logged into uPlay, I had 100 uBucks (my madeup name for them--what are they actually called?); it seems you earn some each time you level, maybe? You can unlock skins, boosters, and other stuff with these. I also had a free skin for participating in the Alpha/Beta
Loving this game. You guys were right, lots of mics on PS4 and players wanting to squad up. Found a cool group earlier and learned a tone them being more experience than me.
Ranked is a lot different compared to Casual, too. Every match we played, the opponents seemed to know exactly what they were doing making strategy, communication character selection that much more important.
Ranked is a lot different compared to Casual, too. Every match we played, the opponents seemed to know exactly what they were doing making strategy, communication character selection that much more important.
yankeehater
Member
Someone posted the DLC roadmap earlier in this thread. It looks like each one is based around a specific country, so we will get maps and operators for that country. I doubt they will be very big since they are going to be free.