Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Was there any, actual, without asterisks attached, PS5 exclusive announced or demoed?
Everything was crossgen or releasing on PC.
Everything was crossgen or releasing on PC.
Rants/Raves after the PS5 conference
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dano1
A Sheep
Did I miss something? What did they lie about
Andodalf
Banned
"We believe in Generations"
Racer!
Member
They never said every title would be PS5 exclusive. Just Xbots trying to stir up things.
dano1
A Sheep
Ok. And....
It's a PS5 and games will look much better on it. And use the new features on the new controller. It is a new Generation.
SakkanartSilentJealousy
Member
Yeah. A lot of cross gen game that unimpressive. All dev still love PS4 Era.
Maybe we should wait for real next-gen only games.
Maybe we should wait for real next-gen only games.
ZehDon
Member
Great to see some new games - GOD:R was a big smile moment, not gonna lie. But oh boy... so much cross-gen. Microsoft was raked over the coals for it, but they were absolutely straight up honest about it from the start. Sony lied non-stop for months, and then stepped up to show me next gen... and showed me I don't need to buy a PS5 till God of War Ragnarok drops at the earliest - assuming that its not cross-gen as well! PC and PS4 good for at least another full year, and XSX for third parties and GPU. Console price was an "Oh shit!" moment. $399.00 for the DE is solid......
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but, the thing that really snatches defeat from the jaws of victory is the game price increase. That game-price increase shows the real cost of the hardware. That $399.00 DE locks me into their digital store, where AUD$120.00 will be the going rate for their exclusives. Microsoft is throwing so much value at me I literally can't play all the games on offer, and Sony just stepped up the prices of its next-gen versions to AUD$120.00. That's basically a deal breaker.
Need more time to process this.
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but, the thing that really snatches defeat from the jaws of victory is the game price increase. That game-price increase shows the real cost of the hardware. That $399.00 DE locks me into their digital store, where AUD$120.00 will be the going rate for their exclusives. Microsoft is throwing so much value at me I literally can't play all the games on offer, and Sony just stepped up the prices of its next-gen versions to AUD$120.00. That's basically a deal breaker.
Need more time to process this.
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fran.fernandez
Member
Las of us 2 still looks far next gen.
Still gonna get demon souls and ps5
Will take me months to finish that game again
Still gonna get demon souls and ps5
Will take me months to finish that game again
Price
Strider Highwind
Banned
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
The good news is that I think most if not all of Sony's big exclusives announced thus far have a really good chance at releasing in 2021 or sooner.
Maybe we get a State of Play in December showing actual next gen titles for 2022?
Arrowhead Games Studio has got to be sitting on an advanced PS5 game at this point.
Maybe we get a State of Play in December showing actual next gen titles for 2022?
Arrowhead Games Studio has got to be sitting on an advanced PS5 game at this point.
Alx
Member
For me the frustrating part was that they mostly showed the same games as last time, it gave a big « seen that already » feeling, even if some had more screen time.
The few reveals were actually ok and needed, but it's a shame they wouldn't demo the whole PS5 experience (dashboard, loading times, « create » features)
In the end it didn't feel like a dedicated event, more like an update of the previous one. Like when you watch the gamesCom demos a few weeks after E3.
The few reveals were actually ok and needed, but it's a shame they wouldn't demo the whole PS5 experience (dashboard, loading times, « create » features)
In the end it didn't feel like a dedicated event, more like an update of the previous one. Like when you watch the gamesCom demos a few weeks after E3.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
How quickly we forget the last gen's start.
nordique
Member
Prices are expensive in Canada. A console plus a game or two with tax will be close to a grand.
given most of these games are on ps4 and Xbox one, I might wait until either prices come down, black ps5 comes out, or first "slim" designs come
My first "must play" is God of War '5'
no must plays on Xbox but I have game pass
fine with the Pro and One X for time being
given most of these games are on ps4 and Xbox one, I might wait until either prices come down, black ps5 comes out, or first "slim" designs come
My first "must play" is God of War '5'
no must plays on Xbox but I have game pass
fine with the Pro and One X for time being
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Hawking Radiation
Wants to watch an Event Horizon porno
It happens after every show. Wether it be Xbox or PlayStation. The trolls come out of the woodwork in shifts. Just get used to it.
Jaguar Victory
Member
Only one hobby allowed at a time?
Sakura
Member
People keep saying this shit, but it's BS in my opinion.
N64 had at launch, Super Mario 64.
Xbox had Halo 1.
Xbox 360 had Kameo and PDZ.
Xbox One and PS4 had Ryse and Killzone.
Not to mention all the other games these consoles (and others) launched with.
Now for sure, some of these games weren't so great (and some were amazing!), but they were all clearly next gen. Titles that couldn't be done on the previous generation, and were great improvements compared to the last. Yes games improve as the generation goes on, but there were still always games that had that wow factor in a new generation. And now those games just aren't there any more.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Perfect Dark Zero and Ryse are two of the worst games I've ever played.
Hawking Radiation
Wants to watch an Event Horizon porno
Photography is a lot to take in and I'm enjoying it. Just going to focus more on that than gaming. Gaming is going to take a bit of a backseat.
I can't help myself to log in e wry now and then and play some Division 2.
Rivht,noe I have to be on someones shit list after mentioning that abomination of a game.
Jaguar Victory
Member
I will fight you over Ryse. It was a good game.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Uh... no... it's the most shallow and repetitive game of its ilk I've ever played.
Bryank75
Banned
Spider-man MM and Demons Souls are better than any of them IMO and Destruction All-Stars looks like a lot of fun. Godfall will be a serviceable coop game too.
SM64 was groundbreaking at the time and it's hard not to let nostalgia come into it there and for Xbox people the same with Halo. But with the rest, it's no contest. PS5 wins.
They also can't release everything on day 1 just to cannibalize each-others sales, that would be really foolish.
The 2021 lineup looks insane too. I hate Harry Potter and the game looked really interesting to me.
turtlepowa
Banned
Demon Souls must be a big thing. I think more people on the internet celebrated this game since weeks than people actually bought it in 2009
Business
Member
I seriously don't understand how they can fuck up so badly I went from dead set on getting a PS5 to not getting one.
On a broader view:
Cross gen games. I still haven't got my head around at Horizon being on PS4 too. HOW?
80eur games.
An almost DLC for Spiderman and a remake the only heavy hitters at launch.
No PS1 PS2 or PS3 BC
Regarding the event:
80% filler with games that may be fine for some but that are not even close to being the reason people tuned up yesterday.
No mention of release dates even for actual launch titles.
Typos / wrong slides
Introducing the PS + collection thing with barely any detail or explanation.
Talk nothing about BC until the day after when actually looks like 99% of PS4 will be compatible, but no mention then.
Nothing about if and how PS4 games wil be enhanced in PS5.
Not showing the console physically, not showing the user interface.
I don't think I could come up with something worst if I tried.
On a broader view:
Cross gen games. I still haven't got my head around at Horizon being on PS4 too. HOW?
80eur games.
An almost DLC for Spiderman and a remake the only heavy hitters at launch.
No PS1 PS2 or PS3 BC
Regarding the event:
80% filler with games that may be fine for some but that are not even close to being the reason people tuned up yesterday.
No mention of release dates even for actual launch titles.
Typos / wrong slides
Introducing the PS + collection thing with barely any detail or explanation.
Talk nothing about BC until the day after when actually looks like 99% of PS4 will be compatible, but no mention then.
Nothing about if and how PS4 games wil be enhanced in PS5.
Not showing the console physically, not showing the user interface.
I don't think I could come up with something worst if I tried.
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Sakura
Member
MM is a PS4 game, nothing about it looks next gen. And yeah, Demon's Souls is the best looking launch title the PS5 has. But at the same time, the best looking title is a remake of a game that game out a decade ago.
I'm not going to say you can't be interested in the games. I'm talking about whether anything looks next gen or not, and it doesn't.
Nico_D
Member
I liked what I saw, a couple of previously unannounced games I'll definitely be buying. But I'm unable to see how these need a new generation console, except for R&C and Spiderman. So far R&C seems to be the only one that wouldn't really have been possible without new hardware.
Not really sure if I'm getting PS5 at launch, there are not that many games for me there at launch. But when I see it on the store shelf, I probably won't be able to stop myself.
Higher game prices are really not a problem for me, i buy games day one maybe once or twice a year.
Not really sure if I'm getting PS5 at launch, there are not that many games for me there at launch. But when I see it on the store shelf, I probably won't be able to stop myself.
Higher game prices are really not a problem for me, i buy games day one maybe once or twice a year.
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Bryank75
Banned
Look at Spider-man again...look at the ray-tracing everywhere, snow deformation. The combat and lighting and particle effects.
We can compare the scaled back PS4 version when it's out if you're still interested. I'm still hyped to have a super hero game of that quality coming out when WB and Rocksteady are going GAAS with Batman etc.
MilkyJoe
Member
Remember that time i said the current fiscal climate would change their Cross gen stance?
genesisblock
Member
After confirmation on cross gen Horizon. All my next-gen console hype has been deflated.
NVIDIA was the best showcase this year BAR NONE! If I'm gonna play cross-gen, I'd better do it with the maximum glory possible .
Stupid Sony and their "generations" cap, I knew Jim Ryan was a snake.
NVIDIA was the best showcase this year BAR NONE! If I'm gonna play cross-gen, I'd better do it with the maximum glory possible .
Stupid Sony and their "generations" cap, I knew Jim Ryan was a snake.
Lethal01
Member
They highlighted them, by them not being there.
Lethal01
Member
I don't really see one or two cross gen games near launch as being them going back on their word. Especially when they are launching with Demon's Souls which look ridiculous and have shown several other games that are totally exclusive.
To me the issue isn't that they haven't shown that they don't believe in generations, It's that they acted like these two games weren't crossgen. That doesn't suddenly mean all the other next gen exclusives are lies, but it's just a shitty thing to do.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
They definitely should have mentioned MM and HFW being cross-gen before, I'd never deny it's weird they hid that information, I just don't get the claim that they lied.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
So happy I opted for PC in the end after the already immensely disappointing "events" preceeding this. I don't care if I have to pay significantly more for my hardware as long as I keep my freedom and my game prices low.
existensmaximum
Member
I agree with all of this. My PS5 hype really plummeted after this shit show.
Jerm411
Member
That's disingenuous and you know it...Jim Ryan has talked on numerous occasions about experiences that can only be had on PS5, moving customers over, and defining generations.
It worked though, everyone is defending it or hand waving it....not surprising.
Lethal01
Member
Nah I totally get people who are claiming that they "lied" about it being exclusive. It's was genuinely disingenuous.
But people are acting like this lie suddenly means "SONY IS CROSS GEN JUST LIKE XBOX" when it's really not.
Unless tomorrow we find out RnC, GoW or Project Athia is actually cross gen.
Lethal01
Member
He did, and it seems like we are clearly getting these experiences, as they have showcased several totally exclusive games that are launching this year and next.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
I have a certain definition of lie and I'd need to see them having said otherwise, I guess. NOT saying it's cross-gen isn't really a lie to me. Like it's no more a lie than there now being way more than 100 games that work on BC now. Honestly just like XBOX is a fine comparison, I mean, how many of their exclusives are actually cross-gen?
Klayzer
Member
This so much. Excitement is not allowed to happen ever. Either side will just drown you out with console war spam posts. For example, you had one poster trying to sell you that this presentation was the absolute worst out the four this year.
supernova8
Banned
As for launch, yeah I agree it seems pretty barren. I never really liked Demon's Souls but I'd probably get it to have at least something pretty to look at. 2021 seems like it'll be pretty packed though. I suspect E3 2021 is going to be mind-blowing. Maybe that's when third parties will start teasing their actual next-gen stuff.
Damigos
Member
1 week is not that important.
Lets be real
Ash Sparrow
Banned
Kinda surprised at how many Sony lied videos are popping up on Youtube. Man that was quick.
Timberwolf25
Member
At least with Series X, cross-gen games will come enhanced. No word yet on whether PS4 games, get an enhanced treatment or whether it will be a straight up port/emulation.