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Redfall | Review Thread

What score do you think Redfall will get?

  • 0 -10%

    Votes: 8 1.3%
  • 10-20%

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • 20-30%

    Votes: 2 0.3%
  • 30-40%

    Votes: 7 1.2%
  • 40-50%

    Votes: 27 4.5%
  • 50-60%

    Votes: 81 13.4%
  • 60-70%

    Votes: 239 39.6%
  • 70-80%

    Votes: 173 28.7%
  • 80-85%

    Votes: 44 7.3%
  • 85-90%

    Votes: 9 1.5%
  • 90-95%

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • 95-100%

    Votes: 11 1.8%

  • Total voters
    603
  • Poll closed .

FingerBang

Member
I'm a big Arkane fan and I was never into this game. Be it the gen-z characters or the fact it is a co-op shooter, it really feels like 10 years too late to the race.

It's because deathloop was a 7 at best.

The better question is how you go from dish and prey to loop and fall.
I swear I don't get the hate you people have for Deathloop. It's an amazing game, with cool story and characters and interesting gameplay mechanics.

I loved it and I'm happy to see Arkane experiment with new stuff.
 
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GymWolf

Gold Member
I'm a big Arkane fan and I was never into this game. Be it the gen-z characters or the fact it is a co-op shooter, it really feels like 10 years to late to the race.


I swear I don't get the hate you people have for Deathloop. It's an amazing game, with cool story and characters and interesting gameplay mechanics.

I loved it and I'm happy to see Arkane experiment with new stuff.
It's their weakest game since dark messiah by a long shot.

I mean, not anymore since redfall is a thing.
 

Varteras

Member
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I swear I don't get the hate you people have for Deathloop. It's an amazing game, with cool story and characters and interesting gameplay mechanics.
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No but seriously, the dogshit AI virtually ruined Deathloop for me... and this game somehow has even worse AI. It's unbelievable how Arkane has not only given up on improving their AI, but they've also somehow regressed from Dishonored 2's AI.
 
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demigod

Member
No my job is working with companies in gaming. When discussing at an event today a few people mentioned they think it will ultimately go through. I just said I wanted it to end.

Like, these people will no nothing. Who really knows what's going to happen.

I think MS should drop it and just go lock in some big third parties exclusive for a couple of years. Whatever it costs. Like a western studio similar to square with final fantasy.

Oh he works in marking now? Before it was logistics:

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Don't belive his lies, he's DarkMage in disguise.
This does not sound like logistics to me.
 

Hoppa

Member
A lot worse than I was expecting. I’ll give it a whirl over the weekend because I don’t want to contribute to their day one statistics
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
are there more reviews coming or this is it

A headline like that from a major outlet with some semblance of credibility is seriously bad news for Microsoft.

Bad news.

Fair play to Engadget for not being kowtowed.
 

ShaiKhulud1989

Gold Member
I was aiming at low to mid 60 but hardly happy or smug about my expectations. Played 2 hours of it on PC GP and it felt totally in-line with the average score.

I know that Redfall was that project that was too late to chancel for all parties involved, but with it's infinite resources Microsoft could've given Arkane more time for at least some polishing and maybe a few more art and asset passes.

Instead Phil and Bethesda threw my favorite team under the bus and I have this hunch that a lot of lead talent will leave Arkane after Redfall's disaster. Hammering 60+ title between Jedi and TotK didn't help either.

This is prime Gamepass fuel tho. Not offensively bad for a 'free' game, but the type of game that you won't miss in a second if it were cancelled or closed somewhere down the road.
 
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winjer

Gold Member
Nvidia sponsorship is expensive (allegedly), but they send engineers to help.

The wave of shit AMD sponsored games lately pretty much indicates they send money in for sponsorship and tell you to not enable DLSS (unless you’re big boy Sony). That’s it. I don’t think anyone looks at the game.

And here we have a game sponsored by NVidia in a terrible state.
Are you going to say it' NVidia's fault or the Devs fault?
 
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hemo memo

You can't die before your death
I expected this the moment 60fps was delays so you know where the developer priorities are. This is bizarre.
 

GHG

Gold Member
And here we have a game sponsored by NVidia in a terrible state.
Are you going to say it' NVidia's fault or the Devs fault?
And in this case, NVidia paid for the game not to have FSR2 or XeSS.

Considering all that we've been through in recent times with new releases on PC (going back to cyberpunk) it's myopic to point the finger at AMD or Nvidia as a root or contributing factor.

It's very clearly the devs and something in their development pipeline that's causing this mess.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I’ve never understood this argument. Number one, all of these games are available outside of the service. They don’t just need to be “just enough” to get people to sub. Most of the revenue from these games is still coming from traditional sales.

Secondly, why would people subscribe for a service full of “just good enough” games?

Lastly, posts like these just showcase how fickle and short sighted gamers are. This game could score in the 60’s and that sucks, but people will use it as console war fodder about how Xbox management sucks and Bethesda is done when in reality the game was in development for years before MS took over and from all accounts MS actually made it LESS GaaS. And it also ignores the fact that Bethesda just released HiFi, which IIRC is the best reviewing game of 2023, but that might have changed since I last saw that mentioned.

Is the bolded actually true though?
 

reksveks

Member
Me and some others on GAF have been saying this for years now. This was ALWAYS going to be the path that Gamepass was going to take. The lack of a true incentive structure makes it so that the platform holder doesn't have to truly make a great game anymore. Just do "just enough" to get your $9.99 a month.
And to the response, the real money is in the platform transactions.

Dependent on the budget, if a game is good enough to get 9.99 from an existing user but not convince a new user then it may be a failure. They still need system/platform sellers.
 

Mr Reasonable

Completely Unreasonable
Thinking about my brief play last night, I could have probably got some enjoyment out of it, the first few minutes were a pleasant surprise, based on the negativity surrounding this game.

Then, I noticed a very low Res texture. The sort of thing that you sometimes see for a second before the real texture pops in.

But it didn't, for a way longer than you'd think.

I don't think Redfall's environment looks bad, those opening scenes revealing the open world looked pretty good to me.

Then the AI. That's the deal breaker.

I don't know if this is a game they'll keep patching as with Cyberpunk and in some ways, this is a similar situation.

I wonder if discussions were had about how Cyberpunk bounced back and still made a lot of money. It even got withdrawn from sale.

Whatever the case, games shouldn't launch like this, especially first party titles that presumably can eat the cost of a delay and can pull in support.

It's obvious that shit loads of work goes into getting a game made, and Redfall clearly benefits from hard work of a lot of people, it's just not finished. It's really sad to see. I can imagine that some games come together at the last minute, and I don't actually think Redfall's problems seem insurmountable, given that the AI being fixed would seem to be the main problem - that actually changes gameplay. On the other hand, the AI is such a giant part of the game, how is it so primitive at this stage?

Either way, the noise about textures and framerates are the kinds of things that optimisation would solve (or from my perspective as a non-developer, anyway), they're not really a problem in the same league as the gameplay being broken by poor AI.

If they're allowed to put it back in the oven and create the necessary patches Redfall could end up being worth a look, as it is, it's probably 90% there, but destroyed by the AI and general lack of polish.
 
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