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[Mammoth Jones]

This is a problem today, government refuses to raise minimum wage on the grounds it would kill small business (because they are so dumb to think there wouldn't be other stipulations attached, or they do know that said stipulations would take from the top), and companies would replace employees with machines.

Call their bluff. Most companies aren't going to replace their workers with machines. It's a lie they tell politicians so they don't have to pay their workers more.

 

[killer rin]

People said this 20 years ago and it still hasn't happened to the extent it was claimed it would happen. Sure. It may happen with increased frequency over the next 50 years but in the here and now people still do most jobs. Not machines.

Sure, machines have made jobs that used to take 40 guys only need 10. So I'm not saying it's not a factor but with any system people will need to adapt. We need our policies to adapt with the world as it changes.

20-30 years ago technology was nowhere near where we are now. Cellphones were large bricks. The internet was growing slowly, but basically non-existent (until it quickly exploded in the 2000's years later). Computers were large, bulky and slow. Because of that, Visual and Voice Recognition was almost non-existent or expensive as fuck and because of those limitations robots were limited.

..Now look at the kind of stuff coming out of Intel (Watson), Microsoft, Google(Boston Dynamics) and Apple. Programmers can write voice and visual recognition algorithms in their spare time because we have the tools and processing power for it. The NSA has a huge automated cloud of processing which they use to literally analyze and spy on the entire world. Computing power is basically being given away for pennies through services such as Azure or Amazon Web Services. The internet is everywhere... They are predicting Self Driving Cars within 7 years

Thats only 20 years. I'd say given another 20 years and the world will once again be near indistinguishable from now... and since we can waste processing like nothing, I can see Automation just taking off and businesses will try and go as far as they can.

 

[Chichikov]

For fuck's sake, we're still pretending there is a deficit crisis?

People said this 20 years ago and it still hasn't happened to the extent it was claimed it would happen. Sure. It may happen with increased frequency over the next 50 years but in the here and now people still do most jobs. Not machines.

Sure, machines have made jobs that used to take 40 guys only need 10. So I'm not saying it's not a factor but with any system people will need to adapt. We need our policies to adapt with the world as it changes.

Problem is government changes at a glacial pace in a rapidly changing technological world. Especially here in the US when there are some that do not want to see ANY change.

It is coming however, the switch to a service economy delayed the problem, but long term, it's something we'll have to deal with.
I think once you'll have self driving cars, the US is never coming back close to full employment.
We'll need to have a massive overhaul of the way we think about labor and having a job, but like you, I am very pessimistic about our government's ability to react to such rapidly changing world.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

20-30 years ago technology was nowhere near where we are not. Cellphones were large bricks. The internet was growing slowly, but basically non-existent (until it quickly exploded 5 years later). Computers were large, bulky and slow. Because of that, Visual and Voice Recognition was almost non-existent or expensive as fuck and because of those limitations robots were limited.

..Now look at the kind of stuff coming out of Intel (Watson), Microsoft, Google(Boston Dynamics) and Apple. Programmers can write voice and visual recognition algorithms in their spare time because we have the tools and processing power for it. The NSA has a huge automated cloud of processing which they use to literally analyze and spy on the entire world. Computing power is basically being given away for pennies through services such as Azure or Amazon Web Services. The internet is everywhere... They are predicting Self Driving Cars within 7 years

Thats only 20 years. I'd say given another 20 years and the world will once again be near indistinguishable from now... and since we can waste processing like nothing, I can see Automation just taking off and businesses will try and go as far as they can.

Yet there will still be manual labor jobs. Construction. Child care. Education. A vast myriad of jobs that can't and won't be automated. I get what you're saying but I think you're overstating the threat of automation. It'll continue to happen...absolutely. Which is why education so that people in the US can remain competitive in developing those automated processes and maintaining them. Those are jobs too.

 

[ElectricKaibutsu]

Got to widen that gap

This succinct post is my favorite.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Republicans fighting the hard fight for minority rights. That minority is the 1%.