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Rift: Planes of Telara |OT|
- Thread starter 1stStrike
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Kintaro said:
Check to see if the 20% off code from President's Day is still active (it was yesterday). It made the digital CE just under $50 and they have an exclusive pet (an undead kitten which is pretty win). I think the code was "Hailtothechief".
There's also a free hat for all your RIFT characters you can get for doing a TF2 achievement, which is really easy (killing someone within 5 seconds of exiting an Engineer's teleporter).
While it will be impossible to balance every single soul, they don't necessarily have to. They just have to balance 3-4 souls per calling because you can switch to them any time you want. Healers need a melee, spell caster, and healer balanced. Warriors need a few tanks and a few DPS balanced. And on and on.
Of course we want every soul to be balanced, but I just don't see it happening. I'd rather have 12 souls be balanced while keeping them unique rather than WoW's recent focus on homogenization and have all souls be balanced.
My brother and I are going Guardian, Deepstrike server. No guild, but the server sounds sweet. Deep strike? Hell yeah!
Of course we want every soul to be balanced, but I just don't see it happening. I'd rather have 12 souls be balanced while keeping them unique rather than WoW's recent focus on homogenization and have all souls be balanced.
My brother and I are going Guardian, Deepstrike server. No guild, but the server sounds sweet. Deep strike? Hell yeah!
Darkshier said:
I don't recommend Justicar for leveling purposes. It is the tank cleric class and as such offers more support and survivability than it does dps. I recommend using either Shaman or Druid for solo'ing/dps purposes. Both have high survivability as well. Cabalist or Inquisitor if you're looking to go caster dps.
Justicar: group support/tanking/survivability
Shaman: dps/survivability
Druid: dps/survivability/pet class/some range
Warden: HoTs
Sentinel: single target/group heals
Purifier: shields/heals
Cabalist: dps caster
Inquisitor: dps caster
I haven't had the chance to really try out Druid or Inquisitor. Based on what I've seen and the talents I think the Druid offers a bit more utility while the shaman is a bit more DPS.
For anyone looking for more info on particular classes and how they play, check out this channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/tgnRift I think it was posted a page or two back.
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
Concept17 said:
Awesome, thanks for the heads up. I'll probably try the Shaman out and see how it goes. Definitely going to watch some of those youtube videos to get an idea of how some of these classes work.
mxgt said:
They've already put out some more balances in the classes - it looks like discharge on the warrior is going to 10 seconds and they nerfed a bunch of skills on the marksman. They're pretty good at balance and while some things do take trial and error, I've been pretty happy with their adjustments thus far.
oktarb said:
Sure thing. Just join up on our forums and be sure to message myself or Ashodin for an invite on release day.
Wallach said:
*sighs* Sabo's aren't overpowered. People are just too dumb to look at their debuffs and either cleanse (the charges count as a poison) or get out of range. Also, it takes about 6 -7 seconds to build up the charges and then detonate them. It's spike damage, but the overall DPS isn't higher then any other class.
Plus, sabo's are squishy as hell by nature. You can't be an effective sabo with a riftstalker build and be all beefy - you pretty much have to make a lean, all or nothing, armor piercing DPS build which leaves you lacking on HP by quite a bit. In my sabo build it didn't take much to kill me and if someone got close it was very difficult for me to escape (almost never happened)
1stStrike said:
I'm not saying they are overpowered, really. I don't have a problem with the class mechanics in general. Just the case where the single type of charges only rolls crit chance a single time upon detonation. That winds up being a significant problem in their crit scaling and actually kind of hurts the class.
To be fair to Trion, there were only a few stand-out classes that sucked to go against in beta. Blast charge (sab) and those pew-pewing warriors in my case. All of which are being fixed in one way or another. My biggest concern is how easy it is to ride the flavor-of-the-month train. It's almost too easy to respec.
EDIT: And yeah, it's not that Sabs were overpowered per se...it was that their bombs were too hard to detect with Trion's messy interface. Next patch the "ticking" sound should help alot.
EDIT: And yeah, it's not that Sabs were overpowered per se...it was that their bombs were too hard to detect with Trion's messy interface. Next patch the "ticking" sound should help alot.
1stStrike said:
Well, all I mean is it will hurt the class down the line. Worst case scenario the damage gets nerfed to account for the regularity of high burst, or they limit the stack total from an individual charge type. They just need to make a stack of charges from the same type roll crit checks for each charge, like they do with different types of charges upon detonation. I think this is part of why people complained about Saboteurs so much, really. The way the numbers work I almost wonder if it's just a limitation they have yet to code around, because it's not something that is really viable to leave in the game.
1stStrike said:Congrats, you are far more analytical then I am when it comes to classes
Guilty as charged. Unfortunately I think if it is changed now it will likely be perceived as a nerf anyway, but I think it would be better changed sooner than later as to avoid problems with it down the line.
I know lots of you guys are playing this for PvP, but did anyone else think that the PvE encounters in the dungeons were amazingly simple?
Hardest thing I encountered was the last boss in DSM but this was mostly because most people were getting used to classes I suppose and not able to pump out high DPS, on top of the Rift bosses being pure tank and spanks I'm kinda worried PvE will be zzz.
Mind you I'm talking purely from the perspective of not seeing a lot of 35+ and not knowing what the Greenscale Blight bosses mechanics were, but from that video it seemed like throw tons of adds at you / Deal With It.
Hardest thing I encountered was the last boss in DSM but this was mostly because most people were getting used to classes I suppose and not able to pump out high DPS, on top of the Rift bosses being pure tank and spanks I'm kinda worried PvE will be zzz.
Mind you I'm talking purely from the perspective of not seeing a lot of 35+ and not knowing what the Greenscale Blight bosses mechanics were, but from that video it seemed like throw tons of adds at you / Deal With It.
Trying to spark discussion, I know I should wait and see
Sebulon3k said:
It's a common topic on the rift forums. Basically, the dungeons are mediium to mild difficulty (depending on your level and group - you can easily get wiped if you're not a high enough level or have a bad group so it's not like it's that easy).
Once you hit lvl 50 the expert dungeons unlock and you can go back into any of the previous dungeons to face new mobs/bosses and see new sections that were previously locked off. This is where you're going to see all the really hard boss fights.
Though, there are definitely some challenging ones in the 30's and 40's from what I experienced and they're still tweaking them a bit.
Projectjustice
Banned
So everyone is going PVE?? No PvP servers players here?
Sebulon3k said:
I hope Trion moves towards a better model than Blizzard. Blizzard is like, well, we need 2 tanks and 2 healers sprinkle in some dragons as the boss, add in some stupid lame ass ae dmg so healers feel like ripping their balls off add in stupid cleave so on top of healing tanks, ae dmg you need to heal all melee that much more then to top it all off make it drop loot that no one in the raid can use!
/bitter
I would love to have boss fights more puzzle like rather than just straight up dps everything you see. Let the healers and tank in on the fun sometimes too. The current model of boss fights is well over a decade old. How the hell have they not evolved yet? I'm speaking more of the raids rather than 5 man instances and the like. Hell, most dungeon boss fights are far more fun than raid bosses in WoW that is.
Projectjustice said:
We have some people that are going PvP only but they're in the vast minority right now. Maybe 5 or 6 of them vs about 35 - 40 of us going onto Belmont.
jersoc said:
The first raid in the game is a maze. After you find your way to the boss, the mage re-shapes and you have to find your way through to the next boss, and so on. Also, there's puzzles throughout the game that you have to locate and can solve for a blue/purple reward (the lvl 30 epic bow I got in the beta was from a hidden location on top of a mountain).
I think they're going to have some cool boss fights ahead for us.
Tesseract
Banned
re: our pvp server, my vote goes to briafcliff.
http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?79356-Briarcliff-1-World-PvP-server
http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?79356-Briarcliff-1-World-PvP-server
jersoc said:
I didn't wanna mention WoW in my post, because I knew someone else would reply using it as an example, I guess I was baiting.
Now then, although I have my criticisms with the WoW approach to PvE encounters, I think Blizzard for the most part does a good job at designing interesting fights, with interesting mechanics, even though if you break them down to their core they may seem fairly simplistic, majority of them are actually quite interesting and more then the Tank n Spank you described in paragraph one, Four Horsemen, Mimiron, Hodir, Yogg-Saron, Algalon, Faction Champions, Saurfang, Putricide, Lanathel, Arthas to name a few encounters from Wrath alone that don't apply to the mold of your complaint.
But I'd rather not turn this into a WoW focused discussion, I wanna talk about Rift. The puzzle based encounters would be a cool idea, but I'd imagine past the first time you clear it the novelty would wear off, and it would become trivial because you've solved it, the fun is gone unless you make it a dynamic puzzle which changes every instance ID.
Yeah the puzzle idea for GB is cool, but what does it actually do outside of change the dungeon layout, isn't it just adding new paint to the same car model ( Wrong analogy probably ), the bosses are still the same just their position is different, it's a nice new take on the dungeon design aspect but I don't really see the excitement behind it.
As for the enjoyment of a fight increasing being a DPS I think it's a little more complicated then your making it out to be, as a healer I enjoy the challenge of keeping everyone alive while still having to keep up with boss mechanics, similarly as a tank I enjoy being able to maintain a high TPS and keeping the fight controlled while dealing with the mechanics, DPSing can be one of the most boring aspects of a fight, because a lot of mechanics ( at least from my experience in WoW ) are targeted towards Tanks / Healers ( See; Infest, Unchained Magic, Mark of the Fallen Champion, to name a few )
Also Lore said it better then I probably ever could as to your complaint about encounter design
Big Papa Husker
Member
That would work for me.Tesseract said:
Projectjustice
Banned
Tesseract said:
I was playing on Seastone during beta. That server was jam packed!!! I had some que wait times from 4-8 mins at times. I loved it!
Weenerz said:
Sorry if I missed this, what are the TF2 weapons? Are they the one's you earn from doing achievements with I guess TF2 on PC? Are they any good?
I'll be going on a non-carebear server. Seastone sounds like there were a few Gaffers on before, so I guess that's the one for me.
arts&crafts
Member
Anyone know about a preload today? or do i have to wait til im off work tomorrow to dl 7gigs and patch
arts&crafts said:Anyone know about a preload today? or do i have to wait til im off work tomorrow to dl 7gigs and patch
Better off getting the client off the Rift Headstart Page
arts&crafts
Member
Sebulon3k said:
sweet that is exactly what i was looking for, thanks
arts&crafts said:Anyone know about a preload today? or do i have to wait til im off work tomorrow to dl 7gigs and patch
You can download everything now through Trion's launcher. I'm pretty sure Steam will only ever offer the launcher download, but really Trion's servers are faster than I have ever seen Steam offer anyway.
Just got my monthly issue of PC Gamer - Rift is their cover story and they have a 3 or 4 page article about launch day preparation and an overview of the unique aspects of the game for the uninformed. There's also a handful of suggested builds for each of the 4 roles aimed at people who don't really want to experiment and just want a solid build. Overall it seems like they're having a good time with it, hopefully that'll encourage more people to get it.
LowParry
Member
I know I'll be doing pvp and still joining the Belmont server. Will be doing a lot of....uh...battlegrounds or whatever the hell they're called. The others I'm bringing with will be doing the same. Overall, we'll probably do a good mix of pvp and pve. Just depends on what's going on, who's on, etc.
Projectjustice
Banned
Im killing time by playing Oblivion. Im in the need for some medieval setting gameplay till Rift drops. lol
AceBandage
Banned
Sebulon3k said:
Eh, I'd rather save $20 than get a few trinkets I'd never use, myself.