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[Bellamin]

You know as much as I dislike Ford, it is pretty unethical for the press to ambush him at his home or his parent's home or stalk him while he's driving. If you want to talk to an elected official you should do it while he's on the job or at legislature, not corner them in their house.

Ambush? Stalking? The journalist very clearly made his presence known. Furthermore, you're talking about an elected official and public figure. That's what public service is. The unethical course of action would be to take Ford at his word, repeat his carefully constructed press releases to readers, and only hang around his office from the hours of 9 to 5.

I understand the disdain for journalists and the media, but I feel this is the one thing we were meant to do; keep elected officials accountable for their actions by showing people who they are.

 

[Roto13]

Media has been against him from day one. As said before if no better option is available will vote for him

A handicapped chimp would be a better option.

 

[AlphaTwo00]

Could someone explain the Subway thing to a non-Canadian?

Long read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_City

Short summary: 7 planned LRT/upgrades to existing systems were earmarked and funded by all three levels of government, to be built and completed by 2020, but was scrapped due to "THE RESIDENTS WANTS SUBWAYS". Everything was thrown out (save for one), and all funding had to be renegotiated, existing infrastructure and planning redone.

End result: one "new subway" which just replaced the existing, aging track (that was also to be replaced under the old plan), serving less people, costing more money, oh, and won't be built anytime soon because none of that preplan work has been done yet.

 

[jstripes]

Media has been against him from day one. As said before if no better option is available will vote for him

That's because the petulant child publicly stated "I refuse to talk to the Toronto Star" on day one.

He goes out of his way to make enemies, and whines when they "pick on him".

 

[Boogie]

So did Ford specifically drive outside city limits so that it wasn't a TPS station that he walked in to report on the photographer?

lol

 

[enzo_gt]

Mayor Rob Ford's approval rating ticks upward with news of crack video

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_ha...ng_ticks_upward_with_news_of_crack_video.html



uh huh.

How is this even possible? HOW

 

[AlphaTwo00]

And that's fine, but ultimately it's objectively the wrong thing to do for the city. Suburbs have absolutely no business having subways by design.

That's not the issue, the problem is having people who won't take the subways make such decisions.

I can tell you as someone who's in the suburbs, I'm all for the previous plan just because of more coverage and actual use. The key is to relief congestion to and from downtown, and Ford clearly demonstrates a lack of understanding what transit is about, both on street level (these damn streetcars are in my way) and underground (downtown has too many subways, who needs the DRL)

Does the suburb need subways? Debatable. I can tell you that the existing extension to York will cut down on the heavy rush hour jams on Steeles to the university, which is always going to be a plus.

 

[IISANDERII]

As said before if no better option is available will vote for him

What options on the horizon are worse than drunk driving crack smokers?

Spoiler

ok don't know if the drunk driving has been proven yet but I'll take the word of the chief of police over this dumbass

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

Ambush? Stalking? The journalist very clearly made his presence known. Furthermore, you're talking about an elected official and public figure. That's what public service is. The unethical course of action would be to take Ford at his word, repeat his carefully constructed press releases to readers, and only hang around his office from the hours of 9 to 5.

I understand the disdain for journalists and the media, but I feel this is the one thing we were meant to do; keep elected officials accountable for their actions by showing people who they are.

The question then becomes why don't journalist just go straight to politicians home all the time? Was anyone outside McGuinty's house? Harper's house? Wynne's house? They have had their fair share of scandals and police investigations., yet not one journalist outside anyone's house.

Even journalists know that cornering people in their houses, public figures or not, is unethical. They are making special exceptions for Ford and I personally don't approve of that.

And you can't say it's because of drug allegations. Journalists have been going straight to his house before that.

 

[crimzonflame]

I bet his popularity went up because people found out he made racist comments in the video.

The only reason reason I dont want to see Rob Ford in office again is because he is a slob and I hate looking at him. If it were a decent looking mayor with a crack problem vs a slob mayor doing a good job, I would pick the decent looking crack smoker mayor any day.

 

[DreamMachine]

The question then becomes why don't journalist just go straight to politicians home all the time? Was anyone outside McGuinty's house? Harper's house? Wynne's house? They have had their fair share of scandals and police investigations., yet not one journalist outside anyone's house.

Even journalists know that cornering people in their houses, public figures or not, is unethical. They are making special exceptions for Ford and I personally don't approve of that.

And you can't say it's because of drug allegations. Journalists have been going straight to his house before that.

I think it's because he uses his house for political purposes(Ford bbq). Once it's in the public spotlight there is no turning back.

 

[qizah]

I bet his popularity went up because people found out he made racist comments in the video.

The only reason reason I dont want to see Rob Ford in office again is because he is a slob and I hate looking at him. If it were a decent looking mayor with a crack problem vs a slob mayor doing a good job, I would pick the decent looking crack smoker mayor any day.

Regardless of how he carries himself, a Mayor with a substance abuse problem shouldn't be a Mayor...

 

[AlphaTwo00]

Regardless of how he carries himself, a Mayor with a substance abuse problem shouldn't be a Mayor...

It's not really a substance abuse issue, if he had fessed up, day 1, and said, "hey, yes I have a problem and I'm dealing with it", it might have even been ok; it's the "NO I DON'T, IT'S THE DAMN LEFT WING MEDIA OUT TO GET ME", blackballing anyone who says anything negative about him, and having it blowing up in his face that's the issue.

 

[Stet]

Media has been against him from day one. As said before if no better option is available will vote for him

This kind of thinking will get us a Mayor Doug Ford after Rob is in prison. "He's just like Rob but without the crack!"

 

[Divvy]

Supposedly there's a second video, and according to sources, it's worse

 

[Earthstrike]

Media has been against him from day one. As said before if no better option is available will vote for him

Just out of curiousity, do you still doubt the existence of the crack video?

 

[Stet]

Supposedly there's a second video, and according to sources, it's worse

In this one, his shirt is off.

 

[AlphaTwo00]

Just out of curiousity, do you still doubt the existence of the crack video?

Probably does, unless it's aired on TV, a lot of skeptics will continue to deny it's existance.

 

[joedan]

Long read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_City

Short summary: 7 planned LRT/upgrades to existing systems were earmarked and funded by all three levels of government, to be built and completed by 2020, but was scrapped due to "THE RESIDENTS WANTS SUBWAYS". Everything was thrown out (save for one), and all funding had to be renegotiated, existing infrastructure and planning redone.

End result: one "new subway" which just replaced the existing, aging track (that was also to be replaced under the old plan), serving less people, costing more money, oh, and won't be built anytime soon because none of that preplan work has been done yet.

Cool. Thanks.

 

[Roto13]

Supposedly there's a second video, and according to sources, it's worse

Where's this one?

 

[Divvy]

Where's this one?

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/11/01/what_will_the_second_video_reveal.html

Police have it

 

[Escape Goat]

when will we be able to see these videos? come on, canada. don't disappoint.

 

[Stet]

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/11/01/what_will_the_second_video_reveal.html

Police have it

Ugh gross. As soon as it's a real legal matter, Rosie DiManno gets the story.

 

[Divvy]

when will we be able to see these videos? come on, canada. don't disappoint.

With our slow ass court system, not for two years I bet, if even.

Anyways, I suspect the police revealed that info because they have quite a few more cards in their hands they can use. Might explain why they didn't just stop the car they were surveilling and look for drugs.

 

[Roto13]

when will we be able to see these videos? come on, canada. don't disappoint.

I'd settle for a detailed summary.

 

[railGUN]

People joked about a sex tape...

...

 

[Stumpokapow]

Blair didn't say that they had two videos that met the description of those reported by the media, he said they had recovered multiple videos off the hard drive including one that met the description of the one reported by the media. It may well be the case that other videos exist or are in their possession, but I think as-is there's probably too much being read out of the syntax of Blair's comments.

 

[Kinitari]

Supposedly there's a second video, and according to sources, it's worse

What would be worse than seeing Rob Ford smoking crack cocaine?

Oh god...

Sex tape?

 

[Divvy]

What would be worse than seeing Rob Ford smoking crack cocaine?

Oh god...

Sex tape?

I hope the next news leak isn't a sex tape. Dear god I hope it's not a sex tape

You've just jinxed it. D:

shit

 

[Bellamin]

The question then becomes why don't journalist just go straight to politicians home all the time? Was anyone outside McGuinty's house? Harper's house? Wynne's house? They have had their fair share of scandals and police investigations., yet not one journalist outside anyone's house.

Even journalists know that cornering people in their houses, public figures or not, is unethical. They are making special exceptions for Ford and I personally don't approve of that.

And you can't say it's because of drug allegations. Journalists have been going straight to his house before that.

I'm not familiar with McGuinty or Harper. I should take a closer look at Canadian politics, but as an American, we have our own weirdos to keep us busy. No journalist can "corner" someone. All we do is ask questions in order to figure out what the hell is going on. We can't trespass. If someone tells you to leave their private property, you leave.

Is it more unethical to ask a politician a question at his home or straight up ignore the story and leave the public in the dark? I'd rather bother one politician than keep the public ignorant about someone they entrusted with power.

 

[qizah]

Apparently, he'll be addressing the allegations against him on the radio tomorrow.

Toronto Mayor Rob Ford will return to the airwaves Sunday to discuss his scandal-plagued week on his radio show, a station manager says, in the wake of police revelations about an alleged crack-smoking video and a city hall security letter describing the mayor's "intoxicated" behaviour on St. Patrick's Day 2012.

Mike Bendixen, the station brand program director for Newstalk 1010, confirmed Saturday that Ford and his brother, city councillor Doug Ford, will resume their hosting duties at 1 p.m. — their usual slot for his show The City.

Link.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

Media has been against him from day one. As said before if no better option is available will vote for him

He has been the most staggeringly incompetent politician I've seen in my life. Forget ideology and media coverage, politics is about building consensus and getting deals done. Instead, this clown has been unable to get anything meaningful through and has chased away every competent person who was ever loyal to him.

I don't care whether anybody believes in silly fairy stories about gravy trains and saving money, this guy just doesn't have the basic ability to be a politician on that scale, full stop. He can't get anything through council, and his office is staffed by 23 year olds because everyone else ditched him.

Why would anyone want more of that? What is it going to accomplish?

 

[speculawyer]

In this one, his shirt is off.

Dammint, I laughed while drinking and got coke up my nose.

 

[Complex Shadow]

Apparently, he'll be addressing the allegations against him on the radio tomorrow.



Link.

just step/roll down goddammit.

 

[Dr.Acula]

Media has been against him from day one. As said before if no better option is available will vote for him

He has been the most staggeringly incompetent politician I've seen in my life. Forget ideology and media coverage, politics is about building consensus and getting deals done. Instead, this clown has been unable to get anything meaningful through and has chased away every competent person who was ever loyal to him.

I don't care whether anybody believes in silly fairy stories about gravy trains and saving money, this guy just doesn't have the basic ability to be a politician on that scale, full stop. He can't get anything through council, and his office is staffed by 23 year olds because everyone else ditched him.

Why would anyone want more of that? What is it going to accomplish?

No kidding.

When was Ford ever the "best option?" Even when he was a councillor, he was generally regarded as the worst councillor. Now you're telling me that guy's the mayor? If he wasn't rich, he'd be neck and neck with Zanta, Enza the Supermodel, and Jaymz Bee in the polls.

 

[jstripes]

The question then becomes why don't journalist just go straight to politicians home all the time? Was anyone outside McGuinty's house? Harper's house? Wynne's house? They have had their fair share of scandals and police investigations., yet not one journalist outside anyone's house.

Even journalists know that cornering people in their houses, public figures or not, is unethical. They are making special exceptions for Ford and I personally don't approve of that.

And you can't say it's because of drug allegations. Journalists have been going straight to his house before that.

Because they generally make themselves available to the media, and provide more of an answer than "anything else?"

 

[lamaroo]

Dammint, I laughed while drinking and got coke up my nose.

That's his next excuse.

 

[Simon Belmont]

Blair didn't say that they had two videos that met the description of those reported by the media, he said they had recovered multiple videos off the hard drive including one that met the description of the one reported by the media. It may well be the case that other videos exist or are in their possession, but I think as-is there's probably too much being read out of the syntax of Blair's comments.

He very specifically said there were two videos that were of interest to the investigation, with one of them being "the crack video". We can say there is a second interesting video for sure, but I don't know that anybody other than the police know what's on it yet.

 

[Dr.Acula]

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/11/01/what_will_the_second_video_reveal.html

Police have it

He very specifically said there were two videos that were of interest to the investigation, with one of them being "the crack video". We can say there is a second interesting video for sure, but I don't know that anybody other than the police know what's on it yet.

From DiManno

"What’s on the other one? Are we not to know? Because a few reporters have already been told by sources what its contents might be.

If true, believe me, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

Some want to keep it that way."

 

[Kave_Man]

Apparently Ford is going to make an announcement on his radio show tomorrow.

What could it be?

 

[Roto13]

Apparently Ford is going to make an announcement on his radio show tomorrow.

What could it be?

Same old song, I'm sure.

 

[jstripes]

Apparently Ford is going to make an announcement on his radio show tomorrow.

What could it be?

"Due to constant media harassment, I am unable to do my job. So, I am taking a month off for them to sort their problems out."

 

[Spring-Loaded]

Once they both go to/get out of prison, I want to see a tv show starring ford and Detroit's old mayor.

 

[Puppet Shadow]

I didn't realize he had his own radio show, this might explain his bewildering popularity. For some reason people blindly follow those with their own TV / radio shows.

 

[Zips]

You have got to be shitting me that there are people who support Ford still, or think he's done a good job.

Have they been under a rock with their fingers in their ears chanting gravy train for the last few years? Everything is just a huge farce at this point.

 

[jstripes]

Have they been under a rock with their fingers in their ears chanting gravy train for the last few years?

Yes.

 

[Zombie James]

Apparently Ford is going to make an announcement on his radio show tomorrow.

What could it be?

"FOREST HILL WANTS A SUBWAY."

 

[Divvy]

He wants a subway directly from his house to that place he got sausages from, so helicopters can't chase him.

 

[Zips]

Yes.

I just can't understand it.

His term in office has been one giant train wreck, and he just keeps sending in more trains.

 

[gabbo]

Have they been under a rock with their fingers in their ears chanting gravy train for the last few years?

it's the rock labeled 'Don't raises taxes, damn downtown elitists'

I just can't understand it.

His term in office has been one giant train wreck, and he just keeps sending in more trains.

Those trains have all the buzzword soundbites his followers want to hear, but never actually follow up on as their whistle.