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Rob Ford: Still smoking crack. On video. Taking leave of absence.

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I'm not sure if this is as true in Canada as it is in the US, but "values voters" are often far less concerned with a person's actual actions than they are with the general sense of belonging.

This is a deeply subconscious, essentially tribal response: it is the sense that someone is part of your group, regardless of their actual actions. Once some people have decided you are "their kind of people," they will defend your actions aggressively in virtually all cases. It's very much like family in this regard, to a slightly lesser extreme; a daughter's accidental pregnancy is a slip up from a generally good girl, while other 17 year old girls who get pregnant are irresponsible and stupid.

Everyone suffers from this to some extent, but some more than others.

It's not as accentuated as it is in the States, but that's a pretty accurate description of the people supporting him. His actual actions have pissed all over everything they profess to believe in, but he seems like their kind of mensch so they just won't see it.
 

Divvy

Canadians burned my passport
I just wanna know what was the competition like when people voted for this guy, was the other guy black?

The other guy was kind of shitty too.

EDIT: I should clarify, he was kind of shitty back then. He was a paragon of light and justice compared to what we have now.
 

Dr.Acula

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I just wanna know what was the competition like when people voted for this guy, was the other guy black?


The other guy was kind of shitty too.

EDIT: I should clarify, he was kind of shitty back then. He was a paragon of light and justice compared to what we have now.

His big thing was that he was the minister of health during the e-health scandal, so Ford was able to attack him on fiscal irresponsibility. Plus it came out that Smitherman did a lot of "club drugs," in his youth. Guess what? Doing drugs in college really rubbed Ford nation the wrong way.
 

dubq

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John Parker explains why he voted against yesterday's motion: http://www.johnparker.ca/my-message-to-the-mayor-and-my-vote-yesterdays-council-session/

My message to the Mayor and my vote at yesterday’s council session.

Yesterday’s meeting of Toronto City Council featured a multi-part motion aimed (inadequately, in my view) at censuring the mayor for his now notorious conduct.

The condemnation of the mayor was universal.

I voted in the minority on one portion of the motion. Enquiries have flooded into my office demanding an explanation.

Here it is:

At the opening of yesterday’s council session I went on record saying I want the mayor gone. Pure and simple. I stood up in answer to the calling of my name and went clearly on record on the matter.

Later in the proceedings we considered the motion by Councillor Minnan-Wong that received most of the press coverage of the day (until even that story was scooped by yet further outrageous revelations from the police file).

Councillor Minnan-Wong’s motion urged the mayor to take a “temporary leave of absence” to “address his personal issues”, and then “return” to the office of mayor and “to lead the City”. I could not support that proposition.

My outrage over the mayor’s conduct goes well beyond “his personal issues”. I frankly don’t want him to continue as mayor whether he sobers up or not.

In other words, my message to Rob Ford is: You are no mayor. You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately. Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!
 

gabbo

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yyzjohn

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So does this mean that Ford will basically be voted down on everything from now until the election, because they can't toss him, and he won't leave unless he's dragged kicking and screaming in handcuffs?

Also, the RobFordJesuscomments. He really knows how to spin a victim complex up to the nth degree doesn't he?

They can't just vote against him out of spite. What if he's voting in favor of something good for the city?
 
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Beautiful.
 

Divvy

Canadians burned my passport
Can't tell what's funnier, the moustache, or the fact that he has to use two hands to drink from a cup
 
Not my councillor, but I've liked his approach to many subjects, especially this one.

He was my councillor when I lived in Toronto and he never listens to his constituents, just blames problems on the individuals instead of speaking up at City Hall. Honestly the only reason he won because the runner-up's platform was "I'm brown! Vote for me!", and the other was an inexperienced speech giver. And even then Parker won only by 1 or 2% despite being an incumbent.

And that's nice of him to distance himself but he's a part of Ford Nation lol he agreed with Ford on like 90% of motions.
 
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