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[mckmas8808]

No one with any sort of common sense thought that.

That's $150 less than they sell the Series X for. And unlike the Series X this handheld is actually cutting edge hardware at the time it's being released.

I had my the products mixed up. The leak expected the Xbox Ally to be $499 and the Xbox Ally X to be $799.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/noted-leaker-claims-to-know-the-xbox-ally-release-date-and-price-ally-499-ally-x-799-preorder-in-august-release-in-october.1685320/unread

 

[Klayzer]

But are you defending Asus only because they partnered with Xbox?

Sounds eerily familiar. I sense a pattern developing.

 

[TheMule1983]

I wonder How many people are going to flip out when they realize they can't access their FULL Xbox library on this thing smh...

Tons. Marketing for this has been extremely misleading.

 

[jm89]

I wonder How many people are going to flip out when they realize they can't access their FULL Xbox library on this thing smh...

Alot of them don't even care. They will defend whatever phil throws there way.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

No, it isn't. Asus' failures of late are well documented. But are you defending Asus only because they partnered with Xbox? Something to think about

This is what I said.

No pc manufacturer is 100% reliable. ASrock mobos are having some issues with amd cpus etc. It goes on, different manufacturers come under fire from time to time.

There isn't a pc part manufacturer that doesn't run into trouble from time to time. Including MS.

Asus and others make some premium stuff and price it accordingly. Which is issue here.

I have used their regular ROG Ally. Build quality, screen experience, controls etc is far away from regular Switch that I have.

 

[jshackles]

This price point is definitely not "mass market".

(Nearly) Nobody will spend this amount of money for a handheld. Not even for a Switch 2 Pro.

I usually buy anything gaming related, but at $900-$1,000 I'm noping out of this one. You're right that it's only a marginal improvement over the $400 Steam Deck or the $450 Switch 2. Hell, for this price you could buy both of those instead.

They would have to do something seriously innovative for me to even consider it, but so far this just looks like every other run-of-the-mill Steam Deck copycat.

 

[Topher]

This is what I said.

No pc manufacturer is 100% reliable. ASrock mobos are having some issues with amd cpus etc. It goes on, different manufacturers come under fire from time to time.

Yes, there are always defects. The difference is how you handle those defects. Asus has been horrible in that regard. GHG has provided a shitton of youtube videos here documenting this. Somehow Asus was lacking all this defensive effort when this was discussed here in the past.

 

[GHG]

Asus is some kind of especially unreliable brand - first time seeing in this thread. Maybe cause they partered with Xbox?

Something to think about.

Take note of the dates:

Community Hardware  Post in thread 'My 14th gen Intel CPU has degraded, time to switch to AMD i guess'

May 15, 2025

It did actually ,the problem was my ASUS motherboard, for some reason default settingss were not respecting Intel safety parameters, they only adressed it on the 1801 update.

Asus motherboards are such a pile of shit with their updates and default settings man. Same goes for the AMD side as well.

When you're putting together your AMD build go for anything other than Asus.

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Social  Post in thread 'Uh Oh: Brand New Ryzen 7 9800x3D was DoA'

May 23, 2025

You dont really excpet your motherboard to come dead, even if was from ASUS. Either way, i dont even know which one to replace with since all X870E are out of stock

When it comes to Asus motherboards your only expectation should be that everything that can go wrong, will go wrong.

When you send the motherboard in make sure you send it in with the socket cover in place.

• GHG

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Social  Post in thread 'Uh Oh: Brand New Ryzen 7 9800x3D was DoA'

May 23, 2025

I Was very happy that my new CPU and Motherboard arrived (x870E Asus ans 9 9800X3D) but my PC wouldnt turn on no matter what. Swapped to my old motherboard and CPU and PC came back alive.

I wasnt expecting this to happen but fuck me i guess, the rumors about bricked AM5 motherboards and CPUs are real.

So what you guys recommended: Nintendo Switch 2 or PS5 Pro?

Dude, what did I tell you about continuing to fuck around with Asus motherboards?

At this point you're just doing it to yourself.

Get a decent MSI motherboard and that way you can game...

• GHG

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Drama Hardware  Post in thread 'Gigabyte RTX 30 and RTX 40 GPUs Vulnerable to PCB Cracks'

Jun 11, 2023

Man Gigabyte and Asus really have been slipping of late.

It's funny because all of the AIBs have just come off a period where they've make the most money they might ever make but yet with the way they've been behaving and the standard of their products of late you'd think they are struggling.

• GHG

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Post in thread 'ROG Ally….did it bomba?'

Jun 13, 2023

Asus + Windows + poor battery life + they overhyped the performance.

It's a niche of a niche product for those who want the best possible handheld performance and are willing to put up with the quirks.

If you care about overall user experience the best bang for buck is the steam deck and it's still the best overall option out there.

• GHG

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Post in thread '"I Need a New PC!" 2024-2025. 240 Hz OLEDs, PCI-Gen5, Path Tracing & Ray Reconstruction.'

Mar 6, 2024

Ok GAF, surprisingly out of all of this, it took me the longest to pick out a PC case. The middle ground is completely gone and it's now just RGB puke with tempered glass fishtanks or plain monolith box. I had never heard of 'be quiet' as a brand before researching all of this, but they seem to provide good airflow and low noise. I was debating back and forth on going with a base 4080 instead of the 4070 TI Super but it just doesn't seem worth the extra money in this GPU market. I'm not shooting for pushing the bleeding edge graphically on games, I'd just like to play at native 4K...

• GHG

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I also had an extensive discussion via PM with Heisenberg007 where I helped him select parts for his PC towards the end of last year and I flat out told him to avoid Asus like the plague. If he wants to share those PM's he has my permission but I'll leave that up to him.

It's really sad that you along with DenchDeckard seem to think that people being critical of Asus is because of this Xbox partnership when people in the PC building community have treated them with extreme caution for a number of years now.

There's only one reason why you're attempting to sweep all of their well documented problems and reputation under the rug, and it's pretty sad to be honest.

 

[laynelane]

Oh, Phil. He just can't help himself.

 

[mckmas8808]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/1016...wing-the-market-with-1000-consoles/index.html

The crazy part about this quote is, there WASN'T any $1,000 console. So what was Phil even talking about?

There is a reason why Steam Deck 2 ain't releasing this year. At this point far to expensive to manufacture if you want decent performance gain. This Asus handheld will fail and further hurt Xbox reputation. At this point it seems like they want to fail the brand. (Nearly) Nobody will spend this amount of money for a handheld. Not even for a Switch 2 Pro.

I honestly think Xbox leadership isn't in control anymore and they are just doing stuff that MS Gaming would like to see them do. I think Phil has done a TERRIBLE job within the last 10 years, but even he would never do this on his own. This move isn't like Phil.

 

[GHG]

Yes, there are always defects. The difference is how you handle those defects. Asus has been horrible in that regard. GHG has provided a shitton of youtube videos here documenting this. Somehow Asus was lacking all this defensive effort when this was discussed here in the past.

Seriously.

Where were these guys when Asus needed them most? It's insane to witness.

Especially when you start seeing it coming from people who have previously had no interest or involvement in the discussions surrounding Asus in recent years.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Yes, there are always defects. The difference is how you handle those defects. Asus has been horrible in that regard. GHG has provided a shitton of youtube videos here documenting this. Somehow Asus was lacking all this defensive effort when this was discussed here in the past.

Seriously.

Where were these guys when Asus needed them most? It's insane to witness.

Especially when you start seeing it coming from people who have previously had no interest or involvement in the discussions surrounding Asus in recent years.

Not necessarily defending Asus here.

You guys are trolling.

Fact still remains, there is a chance one can get a lemon. I have no problem in taking chance with Asus.

 

[StereoVsn]

It's a PC. That talk comes from how there isn't a single Xbox MS game this generation that hasn't got a PC port. Or am I wrong? Is there some True Xbox exclusive that I've missed? What's this "Xbox" game you think people care about?

And every PlayStation Sony game this generation except GT7, Demon's Souls, Astrobot and for now Death Strading 2 is ported too.
So what's the PS game you think people care about? The assumption is that everything will come, sooner or later.

This is just how it is now. No point ignoring that a PC is very close to be that one device to do it all now.

Backwards compatibility is mainly what I use my consoles for. But that's not for everyone.

There are emulators that close the gap further on old games though, but I'm not aware if the Ally is powerful enough for that. I'll certainly give it a try.

I think this will all depend on marketing. Imagine someone with Xbox game library (mostly digital). Vast majority of 3rd party games aren't "Play Anywhere" so folks would need to rebuy them.

That said, vast majority of folks shopping in the very niche market for $900-1000 handheld devices are aware of the capabilities.

 

[Viruz]

Maybe this partnership between Asus and xbox will finally bring the RROD part 2?

 

[Topher]

Not necessarily defending Asus here.

You guys are trolling.

Fact still remains, there is a chance one can get a lemon. I have no problem in taking chance with Asus.

lol....you are the one who suggested folks were calling out Asus because they partnered with Xbox. Showing you the fact that Asus was being called out long before that partnership is not trolling. You just don't like the facts being presented.

 

[Heisenberg007]

I also had an extensive discussion via PM with Heisenberg007 where I helped him select parts for his PC towards the end of last year and I flat out told him to avoid Asus like the plague. If he wants to share those PM's he has my permission but I'll leave that up to him.

Yes.

Evidence.

 

[Topher]

Yes.

Evidence.

Also from 2024....

Unbelievable. Yeah........no more Asus for me if this is how they do business.

Kudos to Gamers Nexus for continued excellence in consumer advocacy,.

 

[Heisenberg007]

I mean....you are labeling another guy an alt so how is that any different? Fact of the matter is that GHG is right here. Asus has a shit reputation these days and it is well documented as he showed and you've called them out for it. You even said you wanted MS to make a handheld so you could get away from Asus.





So you can call out "sony fans", mods and whoever else you want, but would you be so damn triggered here if this thing didn't have "Xbox" in the name? Clearly not considering your past posts on Rog Ally.

 

[Heisenberg007]

I mean....you are labeling another guy an alt so how is that any different? Fact of the matter is that GHG is right here. Asus has a shit reputation these days and it is well documented as he showed and you've called them out for it. You even said you wanted MS to make a handheld so you could get away from Asus.

So you can call out "sony fans", mods and whoever else you want, but would you be so damn triggered here if this thing didn't have "Xbox" in the name? Clearly not considering your past posts on Rog Ally.

No, it isn't. Asus' failures of late are well documented. But are you defending Asus only because they partnered with Xbox? Something to think about

 

[Jigsaah]

That's over 1000 bucks for a handheld. My interest wanes somehow.

 

[iHaunter]

It's just an ROG Ally with an Xbox skin and some minor tweaks. Nothing special here.

 

[Jigsaah]

What's the difference between the Rog Xbox Ally and the X variant? Just more storage?

Nvm checked the announcement thread. That 60wh battery life is buttcheeks. And how much more powerful is this new processor? It's like a 300 dollar difference

 

[IntentionalPun]

I mean yeah it's just a PC handheld.

They weren't gonna drop the price because it has a slightly updated Windows with a game mode.

That'll be the interesting thing to watch to see how good those optimizations are.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

What's the difference between the Rog Xbox Ally and the X variant? Just more storage?

More powerful chipset, ram, storage, battery etc.

 

[kevboard]

What's the difference between the Rog Xbox Ally and the X variant? Just more storage?

Nvm checked the announcement thread. That 60wh battery life is buttcheeks. And how much more powerful is this new processor? It's like a 300 dollar difference

WAAAAY more powerful APU

 

[Three]

No one with any sort of common sense thought that.

That's $150 less than they sell the Series X for. And unlike the Series X this handheld is actually cutting edge hardware at the time it's being released.

The handheld has a lower cost to manufacture than a console. "Cutting edge hardware" just means it's newer but the RAM is slower and cheaper, the SoC is slower/smaller and cheaper. These are high markup products being sold for a large profit.

 

[SomeNorseGuy]

This part of the device is what's really interesting to me:

Article:

IGN - Hands-On With the Xbox Ally X, the New Gaming Handheld from Asus and Microsoft

"The Xbox Ally systems run a super-slim version of Windows underneath the newly built Xbox app. It's still a PC at the end of the day, but Windows has been modified to cut out unnecessary processes and defer tasks that don't contribute to running games while still allowing for wide compatibility for other applications."

Source: https://archive.ph/OdaTK

Going to be quite telling seeing how this version of their OS benchmarks.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

The crazy part about this quote is, there WASN'T any $1,000 console.

 

[Steve Holt]

Yes, there are always defects. The difference is how you handle those defects. Asus has been horrible in that regard. GHG has provided a shitton of youtube videos here documenting this. Somehow Asus was lacking all this defensive effort when this was discussed here in the past.

 

[hinch7]

What's the difference between the Rog Xbox Ally and the X variant? Just more storage?

Nvm checked the announcement thread. That 60wh battery life is buttcheeks. And how much more powerful is this new processor? It's like a 300 dollar difference

Yeah the battery is improved among better processors. On the non X its using the Z2A, which is a budget processor with last generation 4 core Zen 2 CPU and RDNA 2. The X comes with Z2E with 8 core Zen 4 and RDNA 3.5 and a much more powerful GPU.

It would be like comparing the Steam Deck OLED to something like the MSI Claw A8 here (same processor as the Xbox Ally X)

Which I'd assume is around double the performance

 

[mckmas8808]

I mean......how can there be one? Certainly all parties know and understand a $1,000 console is just asking for pure failure at this point. There's literally no signs that says gamers want that. Sony would never! And Microsoft to their credit wouldn't be this dumb to try it at this point.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I mean......how can there be one? Certainly all parties know and understand a $1,000 console is just asking for pure failure at this point. There's literally no signs that says gamers want that. Sony would never! And Microsoft to their credit wouldn't be this dumb to try it at this point.

IF MS decides to use 3rd parties like Asus to make one of their skus outside of their traditional next gen Xbox console that is coming then all bets are off what those guys might charge

 

[StereoVsn]

Yeah the battery is improved among better processors. On the non X its using the Z2A, which is a budget processor with last generation 4 core Zen 2 CPU and RDNA 2. The X comes with Z2E with 8 core Zen 4 and RDNA 3.5 and a much more powerful GPU.

It would be like comparing the Steam Deck OLED to something like the MSI Claw A8 here (same processor as the Xbox Ally X)

Which I'd assume is around double the performance

Nah, you won't have double real life performance in games.

You could get 50% more with say 20-25w TDP.

Edit: Vs. Steam Deck, not Z1E devices.

 

[Topher]

Nah, you won't have double real life performance in games.

You could get 50% more with say 20-25w TDP.

Edit: Vs. Steam Deck, not Z1E devices.

All these handhelds are fairly close to each other. Only really matters if you are playing AAA games, in which case none of them are ideal. A and AA games should run fine though and that's really where these handhelds shine, imo.

 

[StereoVsn]

All these handhelds are fairly close to each other. Only really matters if you are playing AAA games, in which case none of them are ideal. A and AA games should run fine though and that's really where these handhelds shine, imo.

Yep, and running these lighter games allows you to tweak a much better battery life.

 

[mayham2199]

I wonder How many people are going to flip out when they realize they can't access their FULL Xbox library on this thing smh...

Probably very few. Most will just return it and will form a negative opinion about Xbox. I don't get why MS has been so messy with their marketing. It's like they think they can lie there way into success.

 

[adamsapple]

This part of the device is what's really interesting to me:

Article:

IGN - Hands-On With the Xbox Ally X, the New Gaming Handheld from Asus and Microsoft

"The Xbox Ally systems run a super-slim version of Windows underneath the newly built Xbox app. It's still a PC at the end of the day, but Windows has been modified to cut out unnecessary processes and defer tasks that don't contribute to running games while still allowing for wide compatibility for other applications."

Source: https://archive.ph/OdaTK

Going to be quite telling seeing how this version of their OS benchmarks.

This 'updated' lite Win 11 variant is supposedly going to roll out to other Win based handheld gaming devices sometime next year as well, but until then, and when this Xbox ROG releases, it'll be interesting to see how much performance has been gained.

And wonder if this lite version will also be made available to desktop/laptop users.

 

[Parazels]

Can someone please explain all the laughing at this price point please?

We usually expect key benefits from a console: a low price or at least a good price/performance ratio.

Here we have just an ordinary windows handheld most likely inferior to Steam based devices. It doesn't even run Xbox games despite the sticker!

 

[Pop]

I wonder what Microsoft paid just to slap their logo on an already existing piece of tech

 

[hinch7]

Nah, you won't have double real life performance in games.

You could get 50% more with say 20-25w TDP.

Edit: Vs. Steam Deck, not Z1E devices.

Yeah I was going off theoretical benchmarks like TimeSpy. But yeah shouldn't that far off in real world games.

Still would be a big deficit coming from 16 CU at 35W (Z2) max as opposed to 8 CU at 20W (Z2 A).

 

[SomeNorseGuy]

This 'updated' lite Win 11 variant is supposedly going to roll out to other Win based handheld gaming devices sometime next year as well, but until then, and when this Xbox ROG releases, it'll be interesting to see how much performance has been gained.

And wonder if this lite version will also be made available to desktop/laptop users.

It's long overdue that they leverage the position they have in the OS market. It's wild that they haven't leaned more into the enthusiast gaming segment until now. I guess it took the looming threat of SteamOS to wake them up.

Hope they deliver on the "sleek" part and read the room when it comes to telemetry and Copilot in this space. At least make it easy to disable. But as long as it's less system resource hungry, it's ultimately going to be a win for everyone.

I'd guess yes when it comes to this "lite mode" coming to desktop next year.

Hope Valve is hard at work, as competition in this space would benefit gamers in the long run.

 

[RickMasters]

In other words, it's the same exact price as the existing ROG Ally X.

No drama to see here. But PC Gamer left that out for a reason…

I was just thinking that. I do t see myself trading in my Ally X for one but I would like that OS on my current ally X. And of course I'll be happy to have it on the next Xbox.


Console-PC hybrids here we come!

 

[Radical_3d]

They have different line ups.

ROG range tends to be premium.

Oh, I think I've only purchased plain old Asus.

 

[Kilau]

the thread lol

GHG ASUS isn't that bad but they are stupid over priced.

 

[adamsapple]

Leave my boy Dench alone you muhfuhs.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Seriously.

Where were these guys when Asus needed them most? It's insane to witness.

Especially when you start seeing it coming from people who have previously had no interest or involvement in the discussions surrounding Asus in recent years.

Look at the positive though.

We know that at least 2 people weren't fired in the recent Xbox layoffs.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Leave my boy Dench alone you muhfuhs.

Haha, its all good bro. Some of it was deffo self inflicted. I got triggered. I was tired of hearing the shill talk as id been reading some other posts where the claims were made on other users and it triggered me.

All good now and ive got a nice list of ignores, its not worth reading that stuff from the same people.

 

[Topher]

Leave my boy Dench alone you muhfuhs.

Not done yet. Five more minutes....

 

[DenchDeckard]

Not done yet. Five more minutes....

Im not a child, damnit!

 

[Durin]

Asus gotta make their money, they don't have a store to make the real money with a cut from every game sale.

All the waits to be seen is if the changes to Windows work well enough, and then Microsoft made their own actual hardware where they take the loss Valve was willing to.

Otherwise, the Steam Deck and the penguin will just keep on winning...which I'm fine with.