Not sure what the authorities goal is here. If they are trying to save face, I'd say they aren't doing themselves any favors. We've seen enough media about various occurrences that it's cemented as a place I'd never visit, simply due to petty crime and random danger like the bus being shot at. Now we can check the authorities off as dicks too. It all goes into hurting tourism imo.
Ryan Lochte, 32 yo drunk "kid", pees in public, tried to bribe a dude, guns(?!?)
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Calamari41
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The two taken off of the plane are under investigation? For what?
spiderman123
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so they lied?
This story is just the best, the way the internet has been reacting from both sides is just gold. There's been name calling, finger pointing to police related problems and the justice system from both sides and much, much more. But it all basically boils down to what the WSJ mentioned:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/two-u-s-olympic-swimmers-detained-by-police-at-rio-airport-1471487169
In the end, the only reason why this became such a big story is the fact that the majority of people from both countries don't know much about the other one.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/two-u-s-olympic-swimmers-detained-by-police-at-rio-airport-1471487169
In the end, the only reason why this became such a big story is the fact that the majority of people from both countries don't know much about the other one.
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Roland_Gunner
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This may blow your mind but the Brazilian government and people do have some pride in their country and legal system. When outsiders claim that someone dressed as a police officer committed armed robber thats very serious and needs to be investigated. Pretty much any country in the world is going to treat charges like that very similarly. Call your local PD and see what happens.
Somebody somewhere said that in a tweet with an unnamed source so that must be the case.
Nah, I'm pretty sure it still says a lot about you. I don't have all the facts, you don't either, so I can't imagine how you know for sure civil liberties are being abused instead of proper procedure being followed.
Story is still developing.
Calamari41
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I suggest that people actually do this, because they will see that they need to file a report before it moves forward.
Literally, if you're mugged and call the cops, they come out and you file a report on what happened. If they come out and you say you're shaken up but fine, and don't want them involved anymore, they will leave.
As I said before, I've been in this situation. Most recently, the cops nabbed someone breaking into cars and they found some of my mail on him. The cops pounded on my door to let me know and tell me to make sure my car was ok, and then gave me some forms and said to call if I wanted to press charges. I didn't, obviously (since the guy had my address and would know who provided evidence), and when he was convicted there was nothing about mail theft. Even though they had the evidence themselves and could have easily charged him.
From the article: "Bentz and Conger were not named in the ruling, but authorities pulled them off a flight at the Rio airport as they tried to leave the country Wednesday night."
AP is "someone somewhere"?
SomedayTheFire
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Gold medal for storytelling. Good job, guys.
Tomasoares
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The swimmers lied about the robbery
Resident_UA
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What?! I don't know who is telling the truth here, but the job of the police is to investigate. And armed robbery is something that definitely should be investigated! Sure, police could be corrupt, but right now there's more evidence that the swimmers at least exaggerated their story...
Barra gas station owner says Lochte and friends urinated all over place despite appeals to use bathroom.http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/dono-de...res-americanos-praticaram-vandalismo-19947756
silver.tongue
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Well, turns out there was no robbery.
They made a mess at a gas station and made up the story for whatever reasons.
Peed on wall, torn some posters. Owner of the place pulled a gun on them.
Police has the camera footage.
They made a mess at a gas station and made up the story for whatever reasons.
Peed on wall, torn some posters. Owner of the place pulled a gun on them.
Police has the camera footage.
Try leaving the US when wanted for questioning in connection with a Felony.
spiderman123
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Personally, if they are found to be lying then strip them of their medals. But the IOC would never do that.
silver.tongue
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Why?
Lionel Richie
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Are you fucking kidding me? Lying to the police is a crime, it doesn't matter if the place is good or bad to live or any weird shit like that.
Jag
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Well, as long as Brazil is ok with it...
Nastrodamous
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who knew that Ryan Lochte was such an asshole.
If those people were Germans this would be the shitstorm of the century in Germany holy shit.
The AP tweet refers to a "Brazil Police Official"...is that really enough for everyone here?
So you think Brazil needs to detain and jail some athletes for exaggerating a story? Is that the endgame that needs to happen in this case? That potential outcome and the resulting media storm will just further cement the negative impression that this Olympics has already placed into people's minds.
It may be the letter of the law, but it won't do them any favors.
Mattlikewhoa
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So what will happen to the two swimmers, that are currently held in custody?
You're saying the Brazilian police is lying?
andythinkpad
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So it's actually pretty close to the Lochte's version. I am not saying I believe it until I see the video. But this is basically a uniformed personnel (not cop) show them a gun to make them pay up, and didn't take their phone and id.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
This story has been fishy from the jump, so I can't say I'm shocked things are unraveling. Like initially didn't they deny being robbed but then the story gained steam because of a swimmer's mother talking to the media? Robbery doesn't have the same stigma and victim blaming that sexual crimes do, not sure why people even took it there...if you get robbed, you're probably not going to cover it up. Maybe rarely because of embarrassment, but then where would the story come from to begin with?
They probably told a lie to family or whoever close to them to cover up something they got into, but didn't want the media and police involved. Family talks to media, media runs with it, now there has to be a proper investigation. That's why there were conflicting stories about them getting robbed at first but then once it got out they had to ride it out.
They probably told a lie to family or whoever close to them to cover up something they got into, but didn't want the media and police involved. Family talks to media, media runs with it, now there has to be a proper investigation. That's why there were conflicting stories about them getting robbed at first but then once it got out they had to ride it out.
StarCreator
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Not sure if sarcasm, but I'm pretty sure mainland China is king in that regard right now.
Calamari41
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We'll finally know the real story when the authorities release that gas station video. I for one can't wait to see it.
andythinkpad
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If your country has a shitty legal system...you can to be put in the same box as Saudi Arabia.
Lol going by this thread and the actions of the swimmers I guess we can check americans as rude assholes.
Resident_UA
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Do you even know what you are talking about? As the poster above said, try leaving US when you are wanted for questioning. Plus they are at least responsible for all the resources spent on investigating this claim. I'm not a law professor here, but there has to be some kind of law that prohibits making up crimes that end up being investigated.
What if this armed robbery resulted in somebody getting injured or worse? Is police supposed to ignore it as well? You can't just ignore law because you feel like it. The whole reason why this investigation was so detailed is because it was such high profile case.
This is a joke right? American's don't have a monopoly on poor behavior abroad.
spiderman123
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Its the IOC, im sure someone somewhere will get paid off to say "inconclusive evidence, so there is no justification to..."
In Trinidad and Jamaica, they kindda do, next to the British lol
Calamari41
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This is covered in the US by requiring a police report to be filed by someone claiming to be the victim of a crime like this before they'll officially investigate. It protects both sides, the "victim" and the police themselves.
The police aren't watching Good Morning America trolling for new cases to open up.
silver.tongue
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They reported a crime that didnt happen. Thats a feliny in the US as well. If tables were flipped, brazilian athletes would get the same treatment.
That said, its not like they will go to jail or anything. A fine. Maybe some community service and thats it.
Filing a false police report is a felony in most US states. I imagine anyone doing the same there would be treated much the same. You can't just fabricate an alleged crime let alone an alleged armed robbery, requiring police investigative crime to cover up your own misbehaviour, They deserve everything they get.
entremet
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You must not travel much.
tedrotheredro
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Literally, huh?
silver.tongue
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No. Why they should be stripped of their medals? Makes no sense...
But the Brazilians would have deserved it! Our American boys don't deserve to be treated so harshly or questioned in any sense at all.
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