Phantasmal Repose
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I had a similar experience. I finished the first part, downloaded the game, and played through all of it before they uploaded the 3rd part. I'm really glad I did too. That game is a masterpiece.
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I had a similar experience. I finished the first part, downloaded the game, and played through all of it before they uploaded the 3rd part. I'm really glad I did too. That game is a masterpiece.
The study you linked makes sense, but for a real situation I feel like all it does is remove the suspense. People enjoyed the thing more because they felt more comfortable since they already knew the path the shit was heading on. I always felt like the people who don't care about a spoiler also never really cared about the thing in the first place. I also feel the experience of a spoiled thing is not dissimilar to a replay of a game when you have that knowledge. You can absorb more points by knowing the shit ahead. I feel like that's a cooler thing on a replay since I feel like I'm discovering things not everyone will.
I've sunk in 30-40 hours and I have 25% done. I do not know how they will make the game interesting at all for that long. There's so little story cutscenes and a lot of tapes. That's not conductive to an LP much at all. Maybe Liam will keep it interesting with his mission shenanigans. I know I'd be bored watching me play probably since I just tranq everyone I can.
Im an ultra despair girl
Plenty for a lot of people.
I tossed around playing Barkley for a bit and then their LP got me to finally sit down with it. Decided to start Parasite Eve when they decided to LP that. I still need to get back to it though. I forget if I played The Fall due to the LP or not. Bloodborne and Dark 2 were also nice little check ins to see my difference between their playthrough and mine.
Although most of the time I've held off watching certain LPs until I eventually play the game.
DXLelouch153
Banned
yo you too?
its a goofy game but i love it
also i saw right through the chapter 5 trap(Danganronpa)
There'll be a lot of time for random musings from Pat, at least. It'll be kinda nice to have stuff like that again like in Deadly Premonition, where there's a lot of traveling around and plenty of time for that kind of stuff.
There's also Deadly Premonition enemies too!
DeadPhoenix
Member
It may remove the suspense for whatever the thing that was spoiled, but there is likely plenty of other things you don't know yet that will provide suspense. And even then, knowing a thing a head can change the way you look at a piece of fiction completely, creating its own suspense as you are reading, looking for the signs that point to the spoiler and then finding out if you were right or otherwise changing the way you experience it.
Wow. This is so wrong. I mean, I can only truly speak personally, (although I probably have a better idea about what other people who don't mind spoilers feel) but when I care about something. Like, REALLY care. I will want to know as much as I can about it. I'll scrounge the internet looking for details and trailers, even watching them repeatably for more info. This kind of stuff is why I don't like the whole 'spoiler culture'...
As for being like a replay thing, knowing something like Aerith dies and experiencing that moment(not to mention the other 50+ hours of the game) for your self and playing the game again/for the first time are not even comparable, especially in the case of an interactive media.
Sorry if I came off a bit harsh, but... what would you say if someone told you how you feel about, well, anything?
I'm 50% in with 50 hours played and the second half of this game's LP is going need severe editing or will be un-LP-able. This isn't a spoiler but to make story progress now I either need to replay earlier missions on extreme difficulties (Full Stealth, Extreme which means no reflex, insta-kill and on-site weapon procurement or grind A LOT of side ops. It's tedious to do as the player so it'll be hellish to watch someone else do it.
I'm sticking to my guns (of the patriots) here. This LP is can only stay entertaining for so long and will need a format change down the line if they ever intend to finish it.
DoktorEvil
Banned
I like how Chip and Ironicus LP Metal Gear games.
They have dual commentary tracks, one for Cutscene audio and the other for commentary over reduced Cutscenes audio.
Then, Chip will explain all of the nifty little extras in the gameplay sections, and put the codec or tape conversation in a separate video. It's great and thorough.
I don't see these guys doing this at all :/
Ultimate_Trainer
Member
Does anyone have a link to the MGS4 lets watch? I can't find it on the site at all. :/
DXLelouch153
Banned
Danganronpa defeated
will Monokuma be defeated?
find out on the next episode of DBZ
Danganronpa 2 Monokuma defeated!
will Monokuma be defeated?
find out on the next episode of DBZ
Danganronpa 2 Monokuma defeated!
skLaFarebear
Member
Considering how much dialogue I've seen so far in the game, that'd only work for like the first hour. This game is much lighter on dialogue/cutscenes compared to other Metal Gears.
And if I want to watch an LP, I'd rather see commentary over the whole thing. I'll watch a walkthrough or play it myself if I really care about uninterrupted story/cutscenes
I really hope I didn't just read a spoiler posted by lelouch for the end of Danganronpa 1. Reading these little tid bits of a game I plan to play semi soon in the future isn't great.
I understand you're excited about the game, but at least spoiler the shit just in case.
Also
Best Friends Play Danganronpa: Ultra Despair Girls (Part 3)
Youtube Version
Website Version
My point was that it removes suspense and adds comfort. I personally feel people should be out of their comfort zone with fiction. Spoilers may make people more interested in a thing when they weren't at all interested before, but I feel like those impact surprises do hold weight when I look back on a game. I'm happy that devs seem to be hiding certain things like this now and not talking about it before release. It helps to create an illusion and prime me for the surprise even more.
I also think it's just two different ways of tackling something. One where you're ignorant on the events and the other where you're looking for the clues pointing to it. I would personally prefer the former because that's the normal experience that I want. I think the latter is something that can be mildly achieved by replaying the game. During a replay I think I would pick up on the more subtle queues and enjoy the effort put there. The same could be said of a person going in with the spoiler knowledge and them wondering if that subtle queue is pointing to the spoiler.
I'm aware there are people who want to gobble up all the info they can prerelease about games, but I personally try to ignore it if I know I'm going to be purchasing the game day one anyway. I'd rather experience it all fresh since that's just the way I like going into shit now. Discovery is a rarer thing nowadays and I try to get it anyway I can. Also Aerith dying is the worst example you could say because it's a very cheap death with little heads up to it. I'm referring to a more preferred scenario of a murder mystery where one person in the room is the killer. You get the experience the first time of maybe suspecting them or maybe not. You then replay and look at them intently for anything they do and how it benefits their case. It's not entirely similar to a spoiled first playthrough, but I think some of the same feeling of what you're doing is there.
Edit- Also to be clear, it's really all just up to personal preference. I'm not saying one way is better than the other since that depends on the persons viewpoints of media. I just prefer the normal method for taking in something rather than if it's spoiled beforehand. I just like surprises whether it be story or gameplay. My comment about people not caring about the thing in the first place was also meant more towards a person purposefully reading about who dies in thing just because they want to know now instead of playing the game. Or the other situation where they hear the spoiler by accident and now there's no incentive from them to play or read the thing. Some people are incentivized to play the thing since now it seems interesting, but that's not something you can easily judge beforehand so it's never something I'd purposefully do. I tell people to just play the Frog Fractions and don't look at anything else because I don't even want to mention it messes with your expectations. Again, that's just what I prefer and no one method is really wrong. I understand some people hate everyone getting upset over non spoilers or fake spoilers, but I don't think it's a thing anyone is going to stop doing any time soon.
The only place I know is the one guy's dailymotion.
I understand you're excited about the game, but at least spoiler the shit just in case.
Also
Best Friends Play Danganronpa: Ultra Despair Girls (Part 3)
Youtube Version
Website Version
My point was that it removes suspense and adds comfort. I personally feel people should be out of their comfort zone with fiction. Spoilers may make people more interested in a thing when they weren't at all interested before, but I feel like those impact surprises do hold weight when I look back on a game. I'm happy that devs seem to be hiding certain things like this now and not talking about it before release. It helps to create an illusion and prime me for the surprise even more.
I also think it's just two different ways of tackling something. One where you're ignorant on the events and the other where you're looking for the clues pointing to it. I would personally prefer the former because that's the normal experience that I want. I think the latter is something that can be mildly achieved by replaying the game. During a replay I think I would pick up on the more subtle queues and enjoy the effort put there. The same could be said of a person going in with the spoiler knowledge and them wondering if that subtle queue is pointing to the spoiler.
I'm aware there are people who want to gobble up all the info they can prerelease about games, but I personally try to ignore it if I know I'm going to be purchasing the game day one anyway. I'd rather experience it all fresh since that's just the way I like going into shit now. Discovery is a rarer thing nowadays and I try to get it anyway I can. Also Aerith dying is the worst example you could say because it's a very cheap death with little heads up to it. I'm referring to a more preferred scenario of a murder mystery where one person in the room is the killer. You get the experience the first time of maybe suspecting them or maybe not. You then replay and look at them intently for anything they do and how it benefits their case. It's not entirely similar to a spoiled first playthrough, but I think some of the same feeling of what you're doing is there.
Edit- Also to be clear, it's really all just up to personal preference. I'm not saying one way is better than the other since that depends on the persons viewpoints of media. I just prefer the normal method for taking in something rather than if it's spoiled beforehand. I just like surprises whether it be story or gameplay. My comment about people not caring about the thing in the first place was also meant more towards a person purposefully reading about who dies in thing just because they want to know now instead of playing the game. Or the other situation where they hear the spoiler by accident and now there's no incentive from them to play or read the thing. Some people are incentivized to play the thing since now it seems interesting, but that's not something you can easily judge beforehand so it's never something I'd purposefully do. I tell people to just play the Frog Fractions and don't look at anything else because I don't even want to mention it messes with your expectations. Again, that's just what I prefer and no one method is really wrong. I understand some people hate everyone getting upset over non spoilers or fake spoilers, but I don't think it's a thing anyone is going to stop doing any time soon.
The only place I know is the one guy's dailymotion.
DXLelouch153
Banned
Nope no spoilers in that post
its just a joke about Frieza episode in DBZ
only Frieza is replaced with Monokuma
you wont guess the ending though i can promise you that much
even i didnt see it coming
its just a joke about Frieza episode in DBZ
only Frieza is replaced with Monokuma
you wont guess the ending though i can promise you that much
even i didnt see it coming
Don't worry. At the rate the lp will end up going you'll probably get caught up soon enough.
Ultimate_Trainer
Member
nvm
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Was the ultra despair girls game by the people who made no more heroes.
nope, same company as all the others
Crash Station
Member
Bah, they should play DR 1 and 2 first. They know people will watch them without knowing a thing about the series, and I'm pretty sure both LIam and Woolie love the series enough to not want to spoil people.
This is the hardest I've laughed at one of their videos in a while.
Might wait until they finish their DR:AE playthough to see if it improves before I watch it. So far, I'm not really enjoying it that much. I want to see their reactions to some of the reveals that happen later on in the game, that is if they don't talk over it and don't pay attention to it.
Crash Station
Member
Same composer. I think that's it.
E_Darkness
Member
Started watching their Ground Zeroes LP. Because I got it because I caved in and bought both GZ and TPP for PS3.
I'm already mad at this LP. How dare they say shit about Peace Waker. Especially Heaven's Divide. Urghhhh I AM MAAAAAAAD.
I'm already mad at this LP. How dare they say shit about Peace Waker. Especially Heaven's Divide. Urghhhh I AM MAAAAAAAD.
Hands of Stone
Member
This woulda made more sense. Fuck it, gotta power through this anime.
Crash Station
Member
It blew my doors WIDE open! Favorite new series in a VERY long time and IMO the height of the VN genre.
Quite easily a system seller, especially since it works on the now super cheap PSTV. If you already have a controller and know where to look, you could get a means to play the first 2 games for under $100.
RecursiveFault
Banned
I'm interested in how they'll react to MGSV since it's mostly Peace Walker 2
Isn't the game mostly missions with sprinkles of cutscenes every few hours?
There's a ton of gameplay but there's more gameplay than there is actual cutscenes. So basically the exact opposite of MGS4.
Granted, I guess in the documentary there's talk of an entire cut area. (Haven't watched it myself since I'm willing to bet it's filled with spoilers.) I guess that's when they finally told Kojima no.
God damn wheres the latest video? I check all their twitters and reddit and found no explanation.
Edit: Oh there it is Super Best Friends Play Metal Gear Solid V - The Phantom Pain (Part 2)
Edit: Oh there it is Super Best Friends Play Metal Gear Solid V - The Phantom Pain (Part 2)
Looks like they got some scheduling issues.
Statement and link here but YT link not working.
https://www.facebook.com/tbfprulz/posts/1048806141799184
Same here. I'm not watching Danganronpa or Until Dawn but I'm wayyyyyyyy ahead of them in MGSV. (which is the game responsible for me not putting time into either of them, although I just can't afford Until Dawn right now, I have Danganronpa already)
How About No
Member
So, guys
The Phantom Pain on PS3. Worth it?
Or,
The Phantom Pain on a 6-yr old PC. Worth it? (Most recent games I played were The Evil Within and Alien Isolation and they both ran relatively decent)
Super Spoiler Friends Play: You're Required To Play 1000 Hrs of Various Games Before You Can Watch Our Videos
The Phantom Pain on PS3. Worth it?
Or,
The Phantom Pain on a 6-yr old PC. Worth it? (Most recent games I played were The Evil Within and Alien Isolation and they both ran relatively decent)
Super Spoiler Friends Play: You're Required To Play 1000 Hrs of Various Games Before You Can Watch Our Videos
Not even Until Dawn?
TPP should be fine, you might need to turn some stuff down. If you tried GZ on your PC it's as good a port as that, but slightly more demanding because of the open-world nature.
How About No
Member
Played GZ on PS3, never got to on PC. Hopefully they release a benchmark eventually
Enigmatic Rainbow
Member
Same for me, except Until Dawn since it's the only one I've actually finished. Already beat Star Fox Adventures, but I'm not interested in watching it.
Don't plan on watching the MGSV at all since I'd rather play it myself and not spoil anything. Also haven't played Danganronpa 2 yet, so don't want to spoil myself with AE on that either.
I'm enjoying the Until Dawn LP though.
Ultimate_Trainer
Member
Bandwagon age. Launch day Danganronpa Another Episode: Ultra Despair Girls really annoyed me.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
I'm also not watching any of the LPs. Just no interest at the moment.
Not really watching anything either.
Not interested in Dangaronpa and even if I was I would have to play the 1st and 2nd game to get the whole experience which is a bit of an inconvenience. Dropped Star Fox cause it started to feel like a slog. Avoiding Until Dawn cause of spoilers but from what I'm seeing it looks generally good for everyone. Although MGS is looking good I won't follow it cause I'm not that big on long LP's.
Its okay though. Gives us college kids time to focus on our studies
Not interested in Dangaronpa and even if I was I would have to play the 1st and 2nd game to get the whole experience which is a bit of an inconvenience. Dropped Star Fox cause it started to feel like a slog. Avoiding Until Dawn cause of spoilers but from what I'm seeing it looks generally good for everyone. Although MGS is looking good I won't follow it cause I'm not that big on long LP's.
Its okay though. Gives us college kids time to focus on our studies
The "Let's not watch age" considering how many of us are apparently not watching anything. I'm genuinely surprised that so many of us our on the same page. I thought I was just being off by not being into any of the current stuff.
MillionStabs
Banned
Considering I can't remember them talking about Danganronpa ever, it really came outta left field.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Since 3 of the games they're playing right now are story heavy and recent releases it's not all that weird that there's a lot of people not watching anything.