Seahawks offer Russell Wilson $21M/year; wants more

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MagicWithEarvin

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/25/seahawks-russell-wilson-moving-toward-deadline/

With six days to go until the artificial (but very real) deadline for pulling the plug on contract talks between the Seahawks and quarterback Russell Wilson, it’s still unclear whether a deal will get done.

The two sides have opted for silence regarding any discussions that are occurring. Word on the NFL grapevine is that the Seahawks have offered a package worth nearly $21 million per year, with significant guaranteed money. Whatever the current offer, Wilson, through agent Mark Rodgers, wants more.

The current high-water mark remains at $22 million per year, the new-money average given to Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers in 2013. The Seahawks currently don’t want to exceed that number.
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Is this guy serious? If he didn't have an elite defense and a great runningback, he'd be average at best on any other team. I can't see this guy making Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady type money, he just can't carry a team by himself.
 
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$21 million baby!
 
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Narag

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If he doesn't get it from them this year, he's going to get it from someone else next year barring he doesn't full on suck this season or get hurt.
 
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If he can get more, get it. More power to him. The NFL has worse things to spend their enormous piles of money on than an athlete that doesn't shoot people or beat the crap out of women.
 
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It doesn't matter what he's "worth." It matters how much teams are willing to pay for him. Negotiation is the process whereby his agent can find out what that sum is.
 
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Stinkles

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Um he's the most underpaid QB in the league and easily one of the best. Dunno if he's worth 21M a year but you can't dismiss him.
 
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FriedConsole

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Get it. He has been getting ripped off for the last couple of years. Seahawks gotta pay it. Ain't no QBs out there even if he isn't "elite".
 
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Jonm1010

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Good, pay up Seattle! The sooner they get to the point my Saints got where they are tying up a ton of money in a handful of people as a thank you for past performance the better.

Then they will have to feel the same sting from lack of cap space and flexibility.

Then they will come back down to earth.

Enjoy your cycle of underachievement in a few years Seattle!
 
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Once that contract is signed it will be the beginning of the end for the Seahawks.

What worked so well for them is that they were able to pay elite DBs and a top-tier RB while vastly underpaying for a good QB. Once they pay RW top dollar it will be very hard to keep the key pieces around him intact. Unlike Rodgers I think he really needs a solid team around him to succeed.
 
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kevm3 said:
Russell is a young QB that has been in back to back superbowls and won one. More people blame Carroll than Wilson, because that should have been a running play.
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Well he still decided to go with call. He could have laughed and changed the call to a run or call timeout to discuss the play.
 
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Paches

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Jonm1010 said:
Good, pay up Seattle! The sooner they get to the point my Saints got where they are tying up a ton of money in a handful of people as a thank you for past performance the better.

Then they will have to feel the same sting from lack of cap space and flexibility.

Then they will come back down to earth.

Enjoy your cycle of underachievement in a few years Seattle!
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All the playoff losses to Seattle and losing Graham must have fueled the salt levels.
 
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GoldenEye 007 said:
The Patriots can be first. Disband the team SMU/UAB style and save the bodies of 53 people!

They can get a plaque of remembrance in Canton.
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Ignorance at its finest. Can't see through gate to understand that Russell Wilson was drafted to play baseball and can still pursue a chance of playing.
 
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Paches said:
All the playoff losses to Seattle and losing Graham must have fueled the salt levels.
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Graham was a necessary casualty of exactly what I just talked about. We tied up a ton of money in a handful of guys and it has hamstrung our flexibility ever since.

What made our Super Bowl run work so well was we get elite performances out of a bunch of people but didn't pay elite dollars.

Now Seattle is slowly getting to the point a lot of winning franchises get where they are dishing out elite money for non-elite talent and will have to slowly hack away to make things work.

As another poster said, what made Seattle so deadly is they could afford all this elite defensive talent and an elite running back because they didn't have to pay for their good quarterback. Now they are overpaying for their quarterback and it will come at the cost of other areas of the team.

No salt, I have a ton of respect for Seattle but I can't hide my excitement that they are taking the first step toward taking a step back.
 
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3N16MA

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If Joe Flacco can get 120M over 6 then Wilson should hold out for more. Joe fucking Flacco the guy who people keep on saying will be elite one day. He is 30 and is not going to be an elite QB.
 
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3N16MA said:
If Joe Flacco can get 120M over 6 then Wilson should hold out for more. Joe fucking Flacco the guy who people keep on saying will be elite one day. He is 30 and is not going to be an elite QB.
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Have you seen him in the playoffs? Playoff Flacco is real beyond elite. Dude was suppose to be in the AFC title game this year if Pats didn't cheat with deflated balls and the ineligible receiver play.
 
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MetalFearSolid said:
Brady is way underpaid compared to a lot of QBs.
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Hard to say that when he chose to take cuts to help the team. His lower pay means better players can be brought in around him. It also easy to do when your wife makes millions by herself anyway. lol.

Anyway, regarding Wilson, it's a tough call. Yes, he has made it to two Super Bowls and yes he certainly has some talent, but he also has an elite tier defense and RB backing him up. Then again, he has a lot of leverage right now because, well, he made it to two Super Bowls, and who else is on the market that Seattle is going to want to pay, while simultaneously running the risk of letting a possible huge talent go to another team?
 
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3N16MA said:
If Joe Flacco can get 120M over 6 then Wilson should hold out for more. Joe fucking Flacco the guy who people keep on saying will be elite one day. He is 30 and is not going to be an elite QB.
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While I don't care for flacco he is pretty decent. Def in the top 10 right now. I would have him over a lot of qb's right now.
 
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I think people are having two separate conversations here:

(1) Russell Wilson is vastly underpaid, and Seattle is in a difficult spot to not pay a Superbowl winning QB the going market rate.

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(2) By paying Russell Wilson the going market rate, they will hamstring their ability to keep their defensive talent, and talent at other positions, and eventually end up like the Atlanta Falcons. (Yes, I'm salty about the Falcons having no damn defense.)

Both are correct, IMO.
 
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Give War A Chance said:
I think people are having two separate conversations here:

(1) Russell Wilson is vastly underpaid, and Seattle is in a difficult spot to not pay a Superbowl winning QB the going market rate.

and

(2) By paying Russell Wilson the going market rate, they will hamstring their ability to keep their defensive talent, and talent at other positions, and eventually end up like the Atlanta Falcons. (Yes, I'm salty about the Falcons having no damn defense.)
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I think they are two sides to the same coin tbh.

Wilson is underpaid and he has most of the leverage right now. Seattle can't afford not to pay him but paying him also means they give up part of the cap space that allowed them to be so deadly as a franchise.

For Seattle it is a lose/slightly less lose situation.
 
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Jonm1010 said:
I think they are two sides to the same coin tbh.

Wilson is underpaid and he has most of the leverage right now. Seattle can't afford not to pay him but paying him also means they give up part of the cap space that allowed them to be so deadly as a franchise.

For Seattle it is a lose/slightly less lose situation.
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I agree completely. I think this contract is the first step into the abyss of mediocrity. You can't give 1/6th of your entire salary cap to one dude and expect to be as strong at every position as you have been in the past... unless you're the best drafters in the history of drafting...
 
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