Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]

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nckillthegrimace said:
It's fine if you disagree with the review or the score or whatever, but calling it a desperate bid for hits is kind of gross. It's getting dangerously close to that crazy Uncharted 3 post where the dude said that it flew in the face of objective criticism to give the game an 8.

Still, putting major spoilers in your review is a dick move.
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It does feel a bit like a poorly written bid for attention though.

Then again, I think most "gaming journalists" have the literary skills of a 7th grader, so perhaps I'm not the most objective judge.
 
There have been so many awful "professional" video game reviews lately that this doesn't even bother me. The amount of double-standards and all around utter garbage that has been spewed lately from these people made me no longer care.
 
Famitsu gives a Square Enix game a perfect score: moneyhats
Famitsu gives a Nintendo game a perfect score: BEST GAME EVER

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Re: Gamespot: Fuck yeah, finally some drama!
 
AniHawk said:
i dunno how they do it now, but back in olden times, gamespot had some sort of mathematical system in place that would determine the final score. graphics, sound, etc were all weighted to a different degree and out would pop the different score. i think it's one of the reasons people trusted gamespot's reviews to be tougher than ign's back then.

edit: yay, a thread title change.
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gamespot, except for a few recent examples, has traditionally been tough, which is a great thing.

I actually think the 8.8 review was a very honest opinion. Jeff caught a lot of things in his review that other reviewers simply ignored because the wii was so new.

The wiimote speaker implementation on TP was abysmal. Waggle was abysmal. Even if his score was a bit trollish seeming, the actual review was not unfair.
 
Guardian Bob said:
After playing TP, it probably deserves a 8.8. Not sure about SS, but it has to be better than TP.
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tp was an excellent game. round that score up to the nearest full point and that's what i'd give it.

it's kinda hard for me to imagine ss would be better given the dumb things with the motion controls nintendo's bound to do, the repetition mentioned in the review, and especially the quest for tears and whatnot. guess it'll come down to the dungeons and how much a fanboy the story can make of me.

also, the reason for the lateness of the review (spoilers: wasn't trolling for hits)
Probably not Monday. It'll be ready next week for sure, though. I'm playing through it just like I would if I weren't reviewing it: slowly exploring the environments and doing as many side quests as I can find.
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That's some hilarious shit. It seems that Nintendo just can't win... Change very little, people bitch, just more people bitch. What the fuck do this reviewers want from Zelda?
 
LOL 7.5? Wow. So did Gamespot basically wait until all the reviews were out and say "fuck this, we gotta get some attention, time for some epic trolling."
 
Oh well, it's just one guy's opinion.

Nintendo changed the traditional Zelda formula in a lot of ways. Some people will love it, some folks won't.

SS looks to be doing everything I've wanted in a Zelda game for quite some time so I'm really not worried about one less than glowing review.
 
Wow. Very odd indeed, I won't pass judgment until I play the game, but it sounds like (from the tagline), the reviewer has never much liked the series, so I guess the score is understandable. That said, it's sort of odd that they would have someone who doesn't much care for the series review the game. But they can do whatever they see fit.
 
One thing I don't understand is how Zelda's critical reception has started to noticeably decrease while the reception for the console Mario games has not.

Both Galaxy games are awesome, to be sure, but I'm surprised that they're immune from much of the backlash that Zelda seems to get.

I love both series, but I've always found Zelda games to be far more ambitious and satisfying. I don't get why critics have started to sour on Zelda but not Mario.
 
Mistle said:
Can somebody give a spoiler-free summary of the review? What they did/didn't like?
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some good things like graphics and music.

too similar to previous Zelda games.
Controls not perfect
fetch quests and filler content = bad.
 
If I'm being honest I was actually expecting a minimum of 8 from GameSpot.

A 7.5 is a bit surprising.

nckillthegrimace said:
Not entirely. You still have people trying to discredit the review.
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Discrediting the review is fine, so long as it is done with sound reasoning.
 
Gamespot's score doesn't mesh with the review at all. Even though it's probably a more accurate score than the 10s, it still doesn't match the text, which basically says it's a great game, just kinda stale. They still score most AAA games way too high, too, IMO.
 
amtentori said:
gamespot, except for a few recent examples, has traditionally been tough, which is a great thing.

I actually think the 8.8 review was a very honest opinion. Jeff caught a lot of things in his review that other reviewers simply ignored because the wii was so new.

The wiimote speaker implementation on TP was abysmal. Waggle was abysmal. Even if his score was a bit trollish seeming, the actual review was not unfair.
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They gave the GC version 8.9 though. It didn't have waggle, or speaker implementation... They gave MGS3 8.7 or something. It's good to be tough or opinionated, but there should be some kind of overall consistency. They can give 9.0 to CoD BOps Wii .
 
I understand the desire to discredit the review. It's not as if Gamespot is the purveyor of fair scores and makes an effort to use the full scale. They're generally just as bad as IGN or Game Informer.

Before my say is disregarded as fanboy defense force shit, while I am a Zelda fan I really really don't care what score it receives, I don't give a shit if it sells well or if it gets GOTY. I haven't played my Wii in over two years. Hopefully itll still work when I turn it on in December and play this game.

From someone who's essentially an outsider, to see a game get perfect marks from some of the industries toughest critics, and then several days later for GS to step in with a cynical (in comparison) scoring, my first reaction is indeed to be suspicious. Shame I can't actually read the review because it's apparently spoilertastic. The Edge review text sold me and I was highly skeptical.
 
BertramCooper said:
One thing I don't understand is how Zelda's critical reception has started to noticeably decrease while the reception for the console Mario games has not.

Both Galaxy games are awesome, to be sure, but I'm surprised that they're immune from much of the backlash that Zelda seems to get.

I love both series, but I've always found Zelda games to be far more ambitious and satisfying. I don't get why critics have started to sour on Zelda but not Mario.
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Motion control hate.

Yeah, Mario later games had some of it but in more subtle ways.

Plus, Mario is the better overall series.
 
BertramCooper said:
One thing I don't understand is how Zelda's critical reception has started to noticeably decrease while the reception for the console Mario games has not.

Both Galaxy games are awesome, to be sure, but I'm surprised that they're immune from much of the backlash that Zelda seems to get.

I love both series, but I've always found Zelda games to be far more ambitious and satisfying. I don't get why critics have started to sour on Zelda but not Mario.
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The Galaxy games were a major step up from Sunshine. They were a distillation of all the good parts of the previous two 3D games and none of the filler. Zelda hasn't had that game yet.
 
AniHawk said:
it's kinda hard for me to imagine ss would be better given the dumb things with the motion controls nintendo's bound to do, the repetition mentioned in the review, and especially the quest for tears and whatnot. guess it'll come down to the dungeons and how much a fanboy the story can make of me.
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yup. not enough streamlining and not enough change either.
 
Maffis said:
He's the same reviewer that gave Infamous 2 a 7.5, and if that's any indication then this game is really a 9/10.
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And gave SMG2 a 10. Were you trying to make a point, or did I just ruin that for you?
 
So yeah, since the game doesn't even use the sensor bar or infrared aiming, the review is invalid to me so... I'll just go back to waiting for the game to come out.

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EatChildren said:
Oh my.
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Put away the ban hammer, EatChildren. I'm sure you won't need it.
 
maeda said:
That's some hilarious shit. It seems that Nintendo just can't win... Change very little, people bitch, just more people bitch. What the fuck do this reviewers want from Zelda?
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Is this a serious question? It's impossible to please everybody. Some reviewers are fond of the game and others not so much. There will never be a perfect consensus among a variety of people on anything - Zelda is no different.

Also, is somebody going to cobble together a "Wall of Shame"? Because I'd love to cross-reference that list against those who complained about the Uncharted 3 8/10 complainers.
 
BertramCooper said:
One thing I don't understand is how Zelda's critical reception has started to noticeably decrease while the reception for the console Mario games has not.

Both Galaxy games are awesome, to be sure, but I'm surprised that they're immune from much of the backlash that Zelda seems to get.

I love both series, but I've always found Zelda games to be far more ambitious and satisfying. I don't get why critics have started to sour on Zelda but not Mario.
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Has it? Currently the MC of SS is 95, well, I guess it may drop to 93-94, but are you arguing over 3-4 points of drop as backlash that Zelda gets?

After playing the demo, SMG is at least more polished than SS.


And gave SMG2 a 10. Were you trying to make a point, or did I just ruin that for you?
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what's more stupid than meltowns, is people who are so eagerly trying to cause a meltdown.
 
maeda said:
That's some hilarious shit. It seems that Nintendo just can't win... Change very little, people bitch, just more people bitch. What the fuck do this reviewers want from Zelda?
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More warfare, preferably of the modern variety. A cinematic campaign and some killstreaks would also help.
 
Rez said:
The Galaxy games were a major step up from Sunshine. They were a distillation of all the good parts of the previous two 3D games and none of the filler. Zelda hasn't had that game yet.
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The Galaxy games are absolutely a step up from Sunshine, I agree.

But the control scheme for Mario games has changed very little since Mario 64 - far less than the evolution from Ocarina of Time to Skyward Sword.

So why does Mario escape the "more of the same" criticism while Zelda doesn't?
 
Because I haven't played the final version, we're able to still confirm that there is 100% no IR controls on it?

I'm pretty sure that's the case.
 
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