Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]
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Huevos de Oro
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Sounds like a reasonable approach.Yoshichan said:I finally learned how to deal with situations like these...
EmCeeGramr
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pick the worse cognitive dissonance:
- Review scores are bullshit, they're all just looking for hits and attention. Woah, a... a perfect score? This is... this is something special. I can tell. I can feel it. This is it. This is... The One. I always knew, you know. Haven't played it yet, but glad to see I was right all along.
- Review scores are bullshit, they're all just one dude's subjective opinions. Woah, a lower than average score? Glad to see a brave little David standing up for the Honest Correct Opinion against Big Goliath Fanboy. I always knew, you know. Haven't played it yet, but so sad that I was right all along.
Saint Gregory
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fuzzyreactor said:
You said it not me. Don't backtrack from the movement now, I just started printing T-shirts.fuzzyreactor said:
Angry Fork
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Feep said:
scitek said:
scitek said:
i love this
TheLastCandle
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Still can't frigging wait to play this damn game.
The only question I have left is what snacks I should procure for Zelda day. I THINK I want Utz Pub Mix and jalapeno almonds. I think.
The only question I have left is what snacks I should procure for Zelda day. I THINK I want Utz Pub Mix and jalapeno almonds. I think.
fuzzyreactor
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Im not saying the game deserves a 7.5. Im just saying its nice to see someone make note about the problems concerning the series and how this game is still having the same issues as the other games 10+ years ago. put down your pitchfork and settle down boySaint Gregory said:
Although I'm enjoying the game, I commend Gamespot for having the balls to call the control issues out. Trying to fly that damn bird is horrible, and combat will at times do shit that you have no intention of doing. I would have so much more fun with this Zelda if I could simply play it with a classic controller. Even my little 10 year old cousin who played it asked if he could use the "real controller" after having trouble throwing bombs.
I hope to god this motion control gimmick fades out with the next-gen, because I am more than sick of it.
I hope to god this motion control gimmick fades out with the next-gen, because I am more than sick of it.
I honestly don't care about the score, but the video review itself was just bad. The reviewer is trying to be excessively verbose by using words like "propensity" &"repore." There is absolutely no reason to use fancy words to get your point across and it really shows in that video review. While I haven't played the game itself, most of his complaints were not shared by the majority of other reviewers.
fuzzyreactor
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Zeal said:
lolSaint Gregory said:
Dr.Hadji said:
No...when Mario jumps in Mario Galaxy, he's fixed looking in one direction. You can't pivot his direction. You can slightly shift his position, but not turn him around in space. I also don't like his momentum. But whatever.
I'm also the kind of freak that had absolutely no problem with LittleBigPlanet physics and platinumed the game the day after launch. Realistic physics makes sense to me.
The_Darkest_Red said:
I like the fact that GT actually takes the time to point out all of the faults. I feel like all too often reviews end up being hype pieces that highlight features that the developer/publisher wanted to advertise without truly analyzing them. Then when I play the game, there are aspects that have major faults that I wonder how the reviewers missed.
Most of these games are sequels and it's a lot easier to quickly summarize aspects of a game that are nearly identical to its predecessor.
Saint Gregory
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I have yet to play the game or even the demo so as far as I know the review could be spot on but even I have enough sense to realize that if you feel a game series has been bad or having issues for 10+ years then perhaps you don't like the franchise.fuzzyreactor said:
I have issues with aspects of the Uncharted series gameplay choices but I wasn't in the UC3 review thread heralding its few low review score as reviews standing up for what's right. I understood then as I do now that there's always a certain minority that sees issues where others don't and it doesn't make me some kind of visionary if I do.
EmCeeGramr
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Shake the controller.The Lamp said:
Nicktendo86
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Having read the GS review I can't help but be confused. Specific elements of the game they say are detrimental other sites and publications say are huge plus points for the game. One example is the fact that you visit the same areas multiple times, GS states this is repetitive while Edge praised the way the areas alter, going as far as saying Nintendo mph have found the way to endless gameplay possibilities or something to that effect. Really confused about the control issues as well, there is no aiming at the screen so how ccan there be IR issues? Nintendo specifically highlighted how good the games feel because you don't have to aim at the screen for item selection. I really am not trying to have a go at GS CAN'T here but I can't work out how this review could be so against what others have said... We won't know of course until we play the final game ourselves and I hope mine will arrive tomorrow 
Steve Youngblood
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Let's assume that this might be true for one moment. Do you not see a systemic problem here?TyRaNtM said:
To me, when I look at the purpose of reviews in the general sense (i.e. not just about video games), there are two distinct target perpectives. One is that you're writing the critique from the perspective of someone who really appreciates the craft and are writing it more as a scholarly analysis. The other is that the review is written more as a buyer's guide.
Unfortunately in video games, it's become something of a spectacle wherein almost every participant is more than happy play along, and it's somewhat baffling to me. Basically, let's go back to my original question. Why have so many of us gladly allowed for the bastardization of critique into something where someone can garner so much attention for not doing anything aside from offering a crappy opinion? This assumes, of course, that you grant that premise, which I presume that you do. If someone can come along and throw a monkeywrench into the works so easily, what should that tell us about the system in place?
Their relevance is certainly diminished in a lot of people's eyes. Me, I rarely go there since I find their articles, reviews, layouts, etc. to be extremely bland, flat, and boring. These are games - yes, they're a big business too - but at least approach them in the context that they're entertainment.commish said:
butter_stick
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Yeah but The Onion is parody, guy.Ridley327 said:
Fine Ham Abounds
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lawblob said:
THE FROGURT IS ALSO CURSED
BUT IT COMES WITH A CHOICE OF TOPPINGS
THE TOPPINGS CONTAIN POTASSIUM BENZOATE
fuzzyreactor
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Saint Gregory said:
Well frankly, I'm not you nor do i care what you think is message board etiquette. I enjoy the Zelda franchise and plan to purchase SS eventually. Maybe my post came out bad but i wasnt heralding bad reviews for this game. I commended them for making a relevant(imo) point about the series and not being afraid to represent their criticism with their final verdict. Which is something i find to be a ongoing issues with the state of video game "journalism" currently
creid
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I don't know who posted the GameFAQs wasn't exploding, but 95% of the first 5 pages (250 threads) are complaining about Gamespot's review. They either mention 7.5 in the title, or refer to "the review."
To the people claiming that they are fishing for hits or trying to bring the metacritic score down, I don't understand how it is completely impossible that someone didn't like the game. It seems the notion is not even briefly entertained.
As for the review being "invalidated" because the reviewer doesn't realize the aiming doesn't use infrared - how is that important? The important part is that it didn't work right for the reviewer. Unless he kept getting up and frustratedly trying to point the remote at the sensor bar, I don't see how his lack of understanding about how the process works affects his evaluation of how well it works.
To the people claiming that they are fishing for hits or trying to bring the metacritic score down, I don't understand how it is completely impossible that someone didn't like the game. It seems the notion is not even briefly entertained.
As for the review being "invalidated" because the reviewer doesn't realize the aiming doesn't use infrared - how is that important? The important part is that it didn't work right for the reviewer. Unless he kept getting up and frustratedly trying to point the remote at the sensor bar, I don't see how his lack of understanding about how the process works affects his evaluation of how well it works.
It looks exactly like it is. We are seeing less personal attacks this time around, but there is still a subset of GAFfers who simply can't let one score go. Biased! Liars! Attention seekers! It's the same old story.BY2K said:
Nintendo Life has their review up. 10 out of 10 - http://wii.nintendolife.com/reviews/2011/11/legend_of_zelda_skyward_sword_wii
Haven't read it yet but the length of the review seems decent.
Haven't read it yet but the length of the review seems decent.
LumpOfCole
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It's Mario Sunshine all over again!
GregLombardi
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What? You gotta be kidding me. You're trying to defend a reviewer reviewing a product IF they didn't take the time to actually figure out how to properly use motion controls? How does that make any logical sense?creid said:
Additionally, my personal issue thus far with the review is specific to the fact that the reviewer seemed to change his opinion of the game based on what he had already said in his "pre" write up. That, to me, is highly suspect. Everything else people are complaining about or inferring may just be hearsay, as you imply.
EmCeeGramr
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I don't know about it being "invalidated" and disliked that one guy constantly harping on the misidentification itself as the problem, but buried in there was some honest speculation that the way aiming works in SS means that if you moved your Wiimote to point it at the screen every time you tried to aim (like IR), then SS's different aiming might cause the cursor to move around like it was "messed up."creid said:
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Davey Cakes
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Yeah, so I'm pretty sure all of these 10/10 scores are just from reviewers guzzling the kool-aid, and Gamespot's 7.5 is an actual trustworthy critique of the game.
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Jax said:
In some aspects, if you expect Skyward Sword to be like a single player Elder Scrolls with motion controls and a sky loft, then it probably would be a 7.5. Common sense included, a 10
Also, what is up with the "rushed" reviews? Gametrailers, Gamespot....WTF
Angry Fork said:
No. So far, the impressions for Skyward Sword(not rushed reviews) have it looking more solid than Twilight Princess, as far as original build and previews go. The problem with Twilight Princess was the crazy hype(LOL), so after the dust settles, sometimes a game that you were really pumped for doesn't stand the test of time. While excited, I feel much better about this one and don't have unrealistic expectations going into it.....
GregLombardi
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Agreed again. The last game I would deem worthy of a 10/10 score that I played was Resident Evil 4. There are so few that deserve the honor.jett said: