Yes those people are the type who are deeply entrenched and in fact a lot of them are the real fanboys who would not have bought one regardless even if games never came at all, like Bloodborne, Demons souls or GT7. A bunch of them never have any intention of getting one so why not sell them the game years down the line, it's not like you could convince them otherwise.Pcmr gamers will rather wait 5years for a game than buy a ps5
Whats the point of having a Xbox ? I can play all their games on PC day one with better quality and free online. Sure the pc its more expensive, but the graphical fidelity is much better , I can play other games that xbox dosent have and do other operations.So quick resume on the Xbox for example, isn't enticing you to buy one? How about Sony's haptic feedback in the dualsense? You guys are stuck in 1996 console wars. Nobody is buying a Xbox for forza. Nobody is buying a PS5 for god of soy 3. But if you port it to their platform, where they've built friends, games, and achivements up, they'll consider it. Forza just sold 2 million copies on PS5.
As someone who has purchased every Xbox console, I can say them porting to PC day one is the reason I will most likely not buy the next Xbox and why my XBSX has collected dust. The problem for Microsoft is they do not control the PC market. Steam has most of the pull and where I buy most of my games on PC. Including Microsoft games. They really need to come up with a compelling reason to stay in their ecosystem. I should add, Sony will need to do the same if they go down this road.You keep saying that, or is it because PS4 era digital lock in, and brand loyalty from Europe and Asia?
Do you think helldiver 2 will sell millions on xbox? Just look what happened to Ff16 on xbox. I have a feeling hd2 will not sell big in XBox. Even death stranding 1 was not that big on xbox and pc. Spiderman 2 was not big on PC. That is why Sony is making a stupid gamble.So quick resume on the Xbox for example, isn't enticing you to buy one? How about Sony's haptic feedback in the dualsense? You guys are stuck in 1996 console wars. Nobody is buying a Xbox for forza. Nobody is buying a PS5 for god of soy 3. But if you port it to their platform, where they've built friends, games, and achivements up, they'll consider it. Forza just sold 2 million copies on PS5.
No one is going to buy a Nintendo console just because it's the only platform with exclusives — you just disproved your own point by saying you don't care about Nintendo's games.They all had competition that did a better job than they did. And once Sony goes full 3rd party, Nintendo will be a much more atractive console to buy, as they get Nintendo exclusives that are not available anywhere else, but they also get Sony and MS 1st party games as well. I dont care about nintendo exclusives, reason i chose to go for PC as my main gaming platform going forward.
Whats the point of having a Xbox ? I can play all their games on PC day one with better quality and free online. Sure the pc its more expensive, but the graphical fidelity is much better , I can play other games that xbox dosent have and do other operations.
Xbox lack of exclusivity killed the brand little by little, sure there were other stupid decisions but all in all if xbox was pumping out great games 100% exclusive to their system the story could be very different
I thought PC and console were different markets? Consoles were for plug and play, no "hassle". So whats the deal?As someone who has purchased every Xbox console, I can say them porting to PC day one is the reason I will most likely not buy the next Xbox and why my XBSX has collected dust. The problem for Microsoft is they do not control the PC market. Steam has most of the pull and where I buy most of my games on PC. Including Microsoft games. They really need to come up with a compelling reason to stay in their ecosystem. I should add, Sony will need to do the same if they go down this road.
Helldivers 2 is a shooter game. It will sell on Xbox. Xboxes playerbase is mostly American. They don't really jive with JRPGs for the most part. Spiderman 2 wasn't big on PC because word got out how woke it was. And when you wait a year, to port games. People are more informed. And don't give into FOMO.Do you think helldiver 2 will sell millions on xbox? Just look what happened to Ff16 on xbox. I have a feeling hd2 will not sell big in XBox. Even death stranding 1 was not that big on xbox and pc. Spiderman 2 was not big on PC. That is why Sony is making a stupid gamble.
Different platforms with different expectations. Delayed release on PC is significantly different than being put out on the Switch 2. That's hardware suicide for Sony. Do we really need to wait and see how the Series numbers crater going forward now that Xbox games are coming to Sony?Sony 1st party games for PC also started as its only GAAS stuff.
they all have some weird proprietary formatI can give examples too: Dreamcast, Nintendo 64, PS Vita, Wii U. All of these consoles had solid lineups of exclusives, yet they still failed or fell far behind their competitors. How do you explain that?
And the exclusives didn't help save them either. Isn't the main point that people supposedly buy consoles solely because of exclusives?they all have some weird proprietary formatC used GDROM that nobody used,N64 stuck on high cost cartridge,PSVITA use gold-priced memory stick,and WiiU is underpowered even in 2012
those console/handheld failed is not because exclusives...
Microsoft has partnered with Asus for a handheld and it is looking like they are going PC hybrid for a "console" at some point. So what is the deal?I thought PC and console were different markets? Consoles were for plug and play, no "hassle". So whats the deal?
We shall see if you are right about hd2 or this comment will age like milk. So its just 60%, the success rate of Sony exclusives going multiplatform. That is not a good number.Helldivers 2 is a shooter game. It will sell on Xbox. Xboxes playerbase is mostly American. They don't really jive with JRPGs for the most part. Spiderman 2 wasn't big on PC because word got out how woke it was. And when you wait a year, to port games. People are more informed. And don't give into FOMO.
Weird how every single solitary time people said #SonyToo they were wrong, coping, and full of shit.
People predicted that the industry was moving this way for years. Imagine being wrong for years about it and people still can't figure it out.
I don't have to imagine. I can just look at Microsoft.Imagine Sony doing their own handheld while at the same time porting their entire games to others plataforms and Steam Deck 2 OLED launch.
Google Play and the app store as well as the Microsoft store (the shitties game stores)That new gummy bears game will probably be on switch day 1 since it's for a younger audience.
I bought an Xbox One last generation.Makes sense. More games on more platforms means more sales and more money. Not hard, not understanding why people get so worked up over this.
Does the fact that your game is also available on switch and Xbox make your game any less fun to play? Chill out man.
Sounds like MS knows PC and console gamers are different markets. With some small overlap. And they're trying to merge them. Like nintendo did with the switch.Microsoft has partnered with Asus for a handheld and it is looking like they are going PC hybrid for a "console" at some point. So what is the deal?
There has always been an overlap in the market. Second, and more relative today, there is a convergence happening in the market and it is being sped up by moves that Microsoft is making. Most likely on purpose and they are probably laughing as they watch Sony take the bait. Microsoft has the advantage in software and Sony is dumb if they chase them down the path of porting their games everywhere.
The average gamer normie is not building a PC. Most people these days dont even know how to navaigate a file explorer. Nobody is losing from PC ports.I bought an Xbox One last generation.
I sold it knowing that all of their games would release day one on PC. Spending the money on that console was pointless because I could've waited to play those games on PC
If all of their games launch day one on PC, then it would bring far less value to the PlayStation console itself.
you mean, they are trying to migrate the remaining Xbox fans to PC. way differentSounds like MS knows PC and console gamers are different markets. With some small overlap. And they're trying to merge them. Like nintendo did with the switch.
Are we going to pretend that we do not know why MS is making this move?Sounds like MS knows PC and console gamers are different markets. With some small overlap. And they're trying to merge them. Like nintendo did with the switch.
Price of entry for a gaming PC is much worse than an console, but after that everething is better. But the main reason is that since i can play Sony 1st party games on PC, i have no more need to buy a PS. Now on PC i can enjoy the Sony 1st party games + Xbox 1st party games + PC exclusive games, and i can even add mods to avoid bullshit censorship Sony loves to introduce from time to time and if i want to play a MP game i dont have to worry about paying an extra subscription fee.And I didn't quite understand why you switched to PC. What exactly made you do that? Are the prices better? Is the experience better? Is the ecosystem better?
I'm not talking about the majority, I'm talking about people who would see less value in a console if all PlayStation games are released day one on other platforms.The average gamer normie is not building a PC. Most people these days dont even know how to navaigate a file explorer. Nobody is losing from PC ports.
That never made sense - Activision has one game and it only makes sense as a multi-platform game.Predicted this?
No. People wanted Microsoft to compete with Sony with exclusives after they acquired Activision. The narrative didn't change until Microsoft announced its third-party plans.
You're not paying attention to what is happening right now. The average gamer will soon not need to build a PC. With systems like the Steam Deck and other PC handhelds, it is being done for them. It is only a matter of time before those OS go to mini/gaming /TV PCs.The average gamer normie is not building a PC. Most people these days dont even know how to navaigate a file explorer. Nobody is losing from PC ports.
they own crash tooThat never made sense - Activision has one game and it only makes sense as a multi-platform game.
Yeah an exclusive Crash game was going to have xbox's flying off the shelves.they own crash too
The Horizon games would be a good fit for Switch 2, I can see the BOTW/TOTK crowd eating those up.
the gaming crash that isthey own crash too
Phil already had their former Board of Directors member acquiring shares to push them towards market growth by going multiplatform:We have to protect Nintendo. Hopefully they dont have Rasputin type consultants which MS and Sony have right now.
Did the same after Quantum break announcement of it coming to PC.I bought an Xbox One last generation.
I sold it knowing that all of their games would release day one on PC. Spending the money on that console was pointless because I could've waited to play those games on PC
If all of their games launch day one on PC, then it would bring far less value to the PlayStation console itself.
why notYeah an exclusive Crash game was going to have xbox's flying off the shelves.
Not sure if shitpost, but those games would sell exactly 0 copies on Nintendo ecosystem.
PC / Steam users might give us an answer.Ask him how many copies Lego Horizon sold on NS.