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Sony reach's values in Japan not seen since 2000

Ronin_7

Member
Sony is flying.



Mod Edit: Additional context (thanks Thick Thighs Save Lives Thick Thighs Save Lives )

Sony (NYSE:SONY) Group's shares soared to a historic closing high, fueled by optimism surrounding its gaming division and other entertainment ventures.

The stock concluded the trading session on Tuesday with a 4.1% gain, reaching 3,338 yen and eclipsing the previous peak achieved during the dot-com bubble's zenith in 2000.

The company's stock has seen a marked increase lately, following the announcement of robust quarterly results for the period ending in September. The performance was notably bolstered by profit growth in its gaming sector.
On Tuesday, an assessment by Macquarie adjusted its operating profit forecast for Sony's forthcoming fiscal year, which begins in April. The revision was partially credited to the anticipated higher earnings from game titles produced by Sony's in-house studios.

Over the past several years, Sony has invested billions to enhance its content creation capabilities in entertainment. The entertainment divisions, encompassing gaming, music, and film, accounted for nearly 60% of the total revenue in the most recent fiscal year, a significant rise from approximately 30% a decade ago.
In line with its strategy to concentrate on core entertainment sectors, Sony intends to separate its insurance and online banking division and pursue a public listing for the unit in 2025.

During the dot-com bubble's surge over twenty years ago, Sony's shares momentarily hit Y3,390 and attained a closing high of Y3,260. On Tuesday, the shares briefly reached Y3,343.
In the previous month, Sony disclosed a 69% surge in quarterly net profit, amounting to 338.50 billion yen, or about $2.24 billion, with the gaming segment contributing significantly to this increase. The operating profit of the gaming business more than doubled, driven by elevated software and network services sales and improved hardware profitability.

Looking ahead, Sony has updated its revenue projections for the fiscal year ending in March 2025, with expectations for higher gaming revenue.

 
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Griffon

Member
Xbox is crumbling, so yeah...

Or maybe it has nothing to do with gaming and it's about the Sony group itself. Maybe the buyout of Kadokawa having an effect?
 

ikbalCO

Member
Yeah. They have pretty much became monopoly on cameras/sensors, revolutionised the industry with mirrorless cameras and now that every car manufacturer is putting self driving features in their product, their camera initiative will only get bigger.
Ps is killing
Tv shows are delivering.
Movies are selling.
Tvs are glowing.

No suprise here
 
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STONK GO UP
 
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Elios83

Member
The market clearly expects the company to be much stronger after the Kadokawa acquisition "pie_tears_joy: 🤭

But no really it's probably just a general confidence in the company being able to deliver solid profits going forward.
 

Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
From today's WSJ report on Sony's stock:

The stock has been rising sharply in recent weeks after the Japanese entertainment and electronics company announced strong results for the three months ended September. Last month, Sony reported a 69% jump in quarterly net profit to 338.50 billion yen, equivalent to $2.24 billion, driven by the strength of its game business.

Operating profit for its games business more than doubled, thanks to higher sales from software and network services, as well as an improvement in hardware profitability.
Sony raised its revenue forecast for the year ending March 2025, expecting higher game revenue.

 
Operating profit for its games business more than doubled, thanks to higher sales from software and network services, as well as an improvement in hardware profitability.
Sony raised its revenue forecast for the year ending March 2025, expecting higher game revenue.
With the Pro releasing, i can see that "hardware profitability" increasing even more.

Operating profit was always something Playstation suffered. Like, Playstation always have record-breaking revenue numbers, but profit numbers Nintendo always beat them to the punch. Seems like things are turning nicely for them.

Ironically even the biggest gaming IP, Call of Duty, is something Sony doesn't have to spend money on marketing and have more sales now, lmao.

It's weird how business and stock market works though.

Concord flopping did nothing bad for Sony. Microsoft buying Activision ended up being even better for Sony while spending less amounts of money than ever and now with the hype of buying Kadokawa they are flying.
 
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Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Ronin_7 Ronin_7 Add this to your OP since that single tweet is not providing any context on why this has happened.

Sony (NYSE:SONY) Group's shares soared to a historic closing high, fueled by optimism surrounding its gaming division and other entertainment ventures.

The stock concluded the trading session on Tuesday with a 4.1% gain, reaching 3,338 yen and eclipsing the previous peak achieved during the dot-com bubble's zenith in 2000.

The company's stock has seen a marked increase lately, following the announcement of robust quarterly results for the period ending in September. The performance was notably bolstered by profit growth in its gaming sector.

On Tuesday, an assessment by Macquarie adjusted its operating profit forecast for Sony's forthcoming fiscal year, which begins in April. The revision was partially credited to the anticipated higher earnings from game titles produced by Sony's in-house studios.

Over the past several years, Sony has invested billions to enhance its content creation capabilities in entertainment. The entertainment divisions, encompassing gaming, music, and film, accounted for nearly 60% of the total revenue in the most recent fiscal year, a significant rise from approximately 30% a decade ago.


In line with its strategy to concentrate on core entertainment sectors, Sony intends to separate its insurance and online banking division and pursue a public listing for the unit in 2025.

During the dot-com bubble's surge over twenty years ago, Sony's shares momentarily hit Y3,390 and attained a closing high of Y3,260. On Tuesday, the shares briefly reached Y3,343.

In the previous month, Sony disclosed a 69% surge in quarterly net profit, amounting to 338.50 billion yen, or about $2.24 billion, with the gaming segment contributing significantly to this increase. The operating profit of the gaming business more than doubled, driven by elevated software and network services sales and improved hardware profitability.


Looking ahead, Sony has updated its revenue projections for the fiscal year ending in March 2025, with expectations for higher gaming revenue.

 
Ronin_7 Ronin_7 Add this to your OP since that single tweet is not providing any context on why this has happened.




Crazy to see how people interpreted this news vs what the news actually was...

I've been suggesting this for a long time, that Sony is evolving as a company and so is SIE. The funny thing is they're not evolving fast enough, but they're also evolving faster than gamers can accept.

They're still significantly behind big tech. They sill haven't fully recovered from the news that Microsoft was buying ABK, which devastated the stock, but I think long term Sony is in potentially a great position if they keep their foot on the accelerator.
 

Magic Carpet

Gold Member
In 20 years you would have lost less money due to the inflation. Japan has been a losing venture for retirement anything.
 
With the Pro releasing, i can see that "hardware profitability" increasing even more.

The PS5 Pro was probably what allowed Sony to be as aggressive as they were this holiday season with PS discounting. That and other cash positive accessories like the Dual Sense edge and PS Portal. And as you mention later the lack of CoD marketing.


Operating profit was always something Playstation suffered. Like, Playstation always have record-breaking revenue numbers, but profit numbers Nintendo always beat them to the punch. Seems like things are turning nicely for them.

Ironically even the biggest gaming IP, Call of Duty, is something Sony doesn't have to spend money on marketing and have more sales now, lmao.

The ABK deal created at least a 10 year profit boost for Sony as it relates to CoD and likely a longer term profit boost than that.

It's weird how business and stock market works though.

Concord flopping did nothing bad for Sony. Microsoft buying Activision ended up being even better for Sony while spending less amounts of money than ever and now with the hype of buying Kadokawa they are flying.

The failure of Concord is overstated because gamers who hate Sony or Sony's direction have decided that one rare failure somehow defines the company. The problem is the real world doesn't work like that. They never had a blip. Their portfolio is far more risk diverse than one game like Concord. They don't even primarily make their most money from 1st party software...

Imagine you won the lottery and your friends made fun of you because you stubbed your toe that one day... Every time I hear someone randomly bring up Concord that's what that it is. It's hilarious and pathetic.
 
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Hookshot

Member
Is that good or bad? What are other Japanese game companies trading at?
I googled it
When searching for Capcom it brings up these with Sony.

Capcom is 3,535, Square is 6,198, Bamco is 3,299, Nintendo is 9,037

Surprisingly low for Sony if that is correct.
 
yet, no showcase🙎🏻‍♂️

Sony has decided that they don't need a showcase right now. It's disappointing for gamers who want to see some things to get hyped about other than GTA6, but Sony knows that they're going to have a strong 2025 with or without a showcase.

I think you could have seen stronger PS5 Pro sales had they got people more hyped though. Sony these days doesn't seem afraid of leaving money on the table. They could have sold way more anniversary edition PS5 Pros than they did. The only thing I can think of is that they want to be able to show progression YoY and that was more important than short term operating income.

2026 is going to be an interesting year, but also why I think they will launch the PS Handheld in 2026. I think the PC launcher comes out by 2027, and the PS6 comes out in 2028.



Nobody is downplaying the failure of the Dreamcast.

Anyways all stocks are high. Call me in two to three months.

You realize that all indications are that Sony has had a pretty monstrous quarter right? Relative to people's expectations anyway.
 
I'd say trying to downplay the biggest gaming failure of all time in this manner is significantly funnier.
I mean...the stock market is downplaying it. It's not like it's a simple forum like neogaf.

Also, we don't know how much money Sony lost with that game. Helldivers 2 alone probably paid for all that flop and still made some bucks.
 

Tams

Member
They also have a massive deal with TSMC in the form of JASM, which has got a fab constructed and up and running in a ridiculously short space of time.

And the Japanese government is pumping billions of dollars worth into semiconductors. There's a company of sorts called Rapidus that is... well growing rapidly.
 

Klosshufvud

Member
Not surprising. Sony has gone to extreme lengths the past years to maximize profit margins. It was inevitable the shareholders would reward them for it. Expect more of it going forward.
 
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