Guess its time to carefully buy some Sony stock. If they close some divisions and let a couple people go, it´ll rise for sure.
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Sony Reports Q3 FY12 Results - $2 Billion Loss, 6.5 M PS3's Shipped [Shares up 13%]
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Guess its time to carefully buy some Sony stock. If they close some divisions and let a couple people go, it´ll rise for sure.
Parmenides
Banned
Hardware Shipments (Unit: Million)
LTD
FY 2011
-For the current Fiscal Year ending March 31, 2012, Sony expects to sell 14 million PS3s, 6 million PSPs and 4 million PS2s
-For the current Fiscal Year ending March 31, 2012, Nintendo expects to sell 14 million 3DS, 10 million Wiis and 6 million NDS
-Microsoft's Fiscal Year starts in July
2011
Microsoft Q2
Nintendo Q3
LTD
Code:
PS2 154.4 --> (Software: 1528.9)
NDS 151.06
GB 118.69
PS1 102.49 --> Cumulative Production Shipments of Hardware
Wii 94.97
GBA 81.51
PSP 75.4 --> (Software: 324.1)
360 65.8
PS3 62.0
NES 61.9
SNES 49.1
N64 32.93
NGC 21.74
3DS 15.03FY 2011
Code:
(Ap-Jn)11 (Jl-Sp)11 (Oc-Dc)11 (Ja-Mr)12 FY 2011
360 1.7 2.3 8.2 - 12.2
PS3 1.8 3.7 6.5 - 12.0
3DS 0.71 2.36 8.36 - 11.43
Wii 1.56 1.79 5.61 - 8.96
PSP 1.8 1.7 2.4 - 5.9
NDS 1.44 1.14 2.06 - 4.64
PS2 1.4 1.2 0.9 - 3.5-For the current Fiscal Year ending March 31, 2012, Nintendo expects to sell 14 million 3DS, 10 million Wiis and 6 million NDS
-Microsoft's Fiscal Year starts in July
2011
Code:
(Ja-Mr)11 (Ap-Jn)11 (Jl-Sp)11 (Oc-Dc)11 2011
3DS 3.61 0.71 2.36 8.36 15.03
360 2.7 1.7 2.3 8.2 14.9
PS3 2.1 1.8 3.7 6.5 14.1
Wii 1.36 1.56 1.79 5.61 10.32
PSP 1.7 1.8 1.7 2.4 7.6
NDS 1.82 1.44 1.14 2.06 6.46
PS2 1.2 1.4 1.2 0.9 4.7
Code:
PS3 Retail Sales (*) PS3 Shipments
2011 11.0 14.1
2010 10.5 14.4
(*)EU+US+JAP (Source: Nintendo,NPD,Media Create)Microsoft Q2
Nintendo Q3
cyberheater
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Yep. Available via Steam. It would be great.
since there's no more exclusive ... except sony of course
And last gen? (sorry, at work so can't calculate them myself)
Allot less arrogance and better consumer gratitude this time around.
I only have rough shipments for XB (24) and GC (22), using those though with updated PS2 figures (154.4 PS2).
PS2 - 77.05%
XB - 11.98%
GC - 10.98
Kenshin001
Member
Wow, it's weird how it has completely reversed. Sony goes from 1st to last, Nintendo from last to first and MS seems doomed to always be second.
evertually,i think,wii is going somewhere below 40% and 360/ps3 will be 30+% each....
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
It's gonna be a squeaker!
March 31,2006 Cumulative Production Shipments of Hardware -> 17.03
Hardware Sales Ap-Jn Jl-Sp Oc-Dc Ja-Mr FY LTD
FY 2006/07 1.4 2.0 4.7 1.5 9.6 9.6
FY 2007/08 2.1 2.5 5.7 3.5 13.8 23.4
FY 2008/09 3.7 3.2 5.1 2.1 14.1 37.5
FY 2009/10 1.3 3.0 4.2 1.4 9.9 47.4
FY 2010/11 1.2 1.5 3.6 1.7 8.0 55.4
FY 2011/12 1.8 1.7 2.4 - 5.9 61.3
the psp isnt at 78mil? maybe im reading it wrong........
Hardware Sales Ap-Jn Jl-Sp Oc-Dc Ja-Mr FY LTD
FY 2006/07 1.4 2.0 4.7 1.5 9.6 9.6
FY 2007/08 2.1 2.5 5.7 3.5 13.8 23.4
FY 2008/09 3.7 3.2 5.1 2.1 14.1 37.5
FY 2009/10 1.3 3.0 4.2 1.4 9.9 47.4
FY 2010/11 1.2 1.5 3.6 1.7 8.0 55.4
FY 2011/12 1.8 1.7 2.4 - 5.9 61.3
the psp isnt at 78mil? maybe im reading it wrong........
Could happen by this time next year.
If Wii continues to drop (its dropped 5m each year for as many years) to 7m from 10m, and 360 drops to 13m from 15m, and PS3 from 14m to 13m, then they'll all (almost) be in the 30% range (PS3 will be at 29.30%)
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The first year listed there is 2006-2007. The PSP came out in December 2004. Sony changed their shipment reporting method from "shipped to warehouses" to "shipped to retail" around 2006. Presumably the LTD data combines the pre-2006 shipped to warehouses with the post-2006 shipped to retail.
Gap dropped 1.8m this past year, I don't think DS can do it now, not at the rapid rate it's dropping.
bigtroyjon
Member
You have to add the 17 million at the top to the 61.3
Nah, pretty sure there is overlap there. They announced 70m PSP at E3 last year (June Q)
el retorno
Member
I had no idea how much more the newer consoles have sold compared to the older ones of the 80´s and 90´s.
It won't be a very powerful machine however, they likely will emphasize profit over everything else. PS4 will have more in common with a Nintendo sort of piece of hardware than what Microsoft will be doing.
Revenue is meaningless if you are selling for a loss. They'll have to figure out how to make money out of their TV business or quit it.
bigtroyjon
Member
I'm just talking about where the 78 came from, look at the post up above to read about how they changed shipment methods.
If that *were* to happen, I think by the time they were absolutely certain it had happened with no hope of recovery, they'd already be pretty much committed to releasing the PS4.
Psychotext
Member
Wow, every single product is down year on year. Horrible performance.
Seraphinianus
Banned
That's not true-- if you saw the launch of the ps3 and the year or two afterwards, you'd be amazed they're still in the race at this point. They basically used all of their PS2 credibility for a "Get out of complete and total failure free" card. By all metrics, the PS3 should have been dead pretty early on...$599, blu-ray's of questionable quality and price, not many games, lots of little problems, bleeding exclusives, terrible online. It's now my console of choice over the 360...
It looks like PSP vs GBA is going down to the wire as well.
MikeE21286
Member
So PS3 and 360 (PS3 5 years after release and 360 6 years after release) both had their best quarters to date hardware-wise.
Software-wise as well for PS3 (can't remember if 360 software was record-setting as well).
Pretty remarkable if you ask me. Normally we'd already have had new consoles by now....
How big of a difference vs. the Wii/360? I'm assuming a much better tie ratio than Wii, but only slightly larger than 360. This is surprising since 360 is always touted as selling much more software.
Also, tie ratio growth is not linear, so that'll be one contributing factor to the Wii (most likely) haveing the lowest tie ratio.
PS3 Q3 FY11 > PS3 Q3 FY10.....?
Software-wise as well for PS3 (can't remember if 360 software was record-setting as well).
Pretty remarkable if you ask me. Normally we'd already have had new consoles by now....
How big of a difference vs. the Wii/360? I'm assuming a much better tie ratio than Wii, but only slightly larger than 360. This is surprising since 360 is always touted as selling much more software.
Also, tie ratio growth is not linear, so that'll be one contributing factor to the Wii (most likely) haveing the lowest tie ratio.
Wow, every single product is down year on year. Horrible performance.
PS3 Q3 FY11 > PS3 Q3 FY10.....?
bigtroyjon
Member
Great metric you are using for PS3 success in a thread about Sony's current financial situation.
It's not as if Sony had some massive turn around and caught up late in the game, it gave away the american market because of the problems you mentioned and has only managed to keep up with the 360 because Microsoft has done a bad job of stealing mindshare from them in continental europe. They're still running on their PS2 credibility in Spain, Italy, France etc.
DaSorcerer7
Member
Yikes....Sony had better make sure the vita succeeds.
Phonomezer
Banned
It's the same as the 360.
Wow, every single product is down year on year. Horrible performance.
They've sold 5.9m PSP's for the FY but only expect 6m? So they only expect 100k next q?! Wonder why they didn't adjust its forecast.
Wow, every single product is down year on year. Horrible performance.
Ya, this is bad. My company had it's FY2011 update and it was interesting seeing divisions offsetting losses for under performers. This is obviously not the case for Sony. Good luck Kaz in turning this around. If successful, you can be promoted to President of the World.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
all Sony needs to do is release the ps4 with 16 spu's jack that ram to 1 gb include a 500 gb hd and update to a last year video card and double the spped of bliray and sell it at $299.00
Improve the development tools and slightly reduce their costs to developers (kits) and you have a system that developers can easily continue to develop on and a system that's 5x as powerful. Its also profitable from day one
PS they should also slightly modify the controller and include a mic standard and allow other mics. stop the home stuff and focus and allow its type games on pan for the ps3.
Improve the development tools and slightly reduce their costs to developers (kits) and you have a system that developers can easily continue to develop on and a system that's 5x as powerful. Its also profitable from day one
PS they should also slightly modify the controller and include a mic standard and allow other mics. stop the home stuff and focus and allow its type games on pan for the ps3.
bigtroyjon
Member
That is the shipped tie ratio which includes bundled games and games sitting on the shelf. 360's NPD sold ratio is 9.1, shipped ratio will be much higher
Was never the point. Last gen Sony owned everyone with the PS2.. this gen MS just wanted to compete or chip away. They have done more than that.
But on the story here it looks like as a company Sony needs to make some changes. Not really on the gaming side so to speak just at their core.
Let's not forget Dreamcast - 10.6m
It's launch in America is going to generate some press bad PR, it's launching in the same launch window as iPad 3 which will overwhelm it. They will need a price cut here asap after launch likely to generate any interest like what was needed for 3DS.
MikeE21286
Member
3.8m
Opus Angelorum
Member
I must be misunderstanding. Are they claiming a price drop caused them to have lower sales?
Lifetime? No, that's about 3.8m. For the year X360 sold 800k more than PS3 though, which is probably where you're getting that figure from.
It was strategic because it was $50 and not $100 ...!
NemesisPrime
Banned
Black Lawn Finale
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Well that's it gentlemen. Show's over. Sell your PS3s and grab a Wii or a 360 on your way out.
Seriously though, I wish the best of luck to Kaz because his first big test is going to be sorting out this mess and getting Sony back on track. I would hate to see Sony drop out like some people in here are suggesting they will.
Seriously though, I wish the best of luck to Kaz because his first big test is going to be sorting out this mess and getting Sony back on track. I would hate to see Sony drop out like some people in here are suggesting they will.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
If only Sony had you in its ranks.
They're talking about losses so probably lower revenue (and perhaps profit if the cut made the hardware unprofitable again).
bigtroyjon
Member
Sales mean revenue in that context, PS3 revenue was lower due to them cutting the price, despite selling slightly more units.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Of course, thanks.