Memphis Reigns
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DrForester said:
Gorgeous.
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Space: The Final Frontier
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Gorgeous.
No it isn't. You seem to be assuming that everywhere on earth sustains life equally well, or maybe you are forgetting that different countries don't like to share land and resources? Shit is getting crowded mang.Shorty said:
That said, I agree with everything else you said.
You do realize that his little statistic is taking that into account right? I'm sure people don't only sample from the days when there was no war or famine to come up with statistics like this.Freshmaker said:
The way to solve overpopulation is to stop feeding people where there is not enough food. Thats how other creatures stay under control.
Unfortunately, we have too much compassion (myself included) and send food to places where people are starving. They have kids and then the number of starving people just got bigger.
Fuck the moon and mars, btw
kkaabboomm
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shuttle launch tonight if the weather holds!
kkaabboomm
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what is likely to be the last nighttime shuttle launch ever. go discovery go!
(there are only 6 shuttle launches remaining)
TacticalFox88
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:lol Wow...Shorty said:
Eaten By A Grue
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Goddamn rouge galaxy, get off my Nebula! *shakes fist in air*Dr Zhivago said:
TOM f'N CRUISE
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Sombrero Galaxy
TOM f'N CRUISE
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agreedNorante said:Indeed.
Amir0x said:man just looking at that fills me with a sense of unavoidable dread, knowing i am going to die before we can explore all these magnificent galaxies and their almost certainly diverse amounts of life on a endless amount of planets.
So beautiful
True. Thinking about the extraordinary progress we made in such little time during the Cold War... and seeing humanity not uniting their efforts into what is ultimately our final goal and destination fills me with anxiety.
It's difficult to convey entirely my feelings, but if I had to describe it, I'd say its almost a claustrophobic feeling. Not in the sense that I have limited movement or lack of air in our planet
lol) but in the sense that I'm "trapped", confined here, when there is so much more to see and explore. Being part of something much larger, in which we are simply mere products of randomness. Not being able to fully explore and understand all the chaos that surrounds us; Those are feeling that sometimes are almost too much to bear, when you spend some time thinking about it.<- I can only imagine what this man felt when he discovered he was going to die without ever setting a foot in space. A beautiful human being that poured his passion and soul into his work, inspiring generations with his love and curiosity about the Universe. :')
*Salute*
Miau said:True. Thinking about the extraordinary progress we made in such little time during the Cold War... and seeing humanity not uniting their efforts into what is ultimately our final goal and destination fills me with anxiety.
It's difficult to convey entirely my feelings, but if I had to describe it, I'd say its almost a claustrophobic feeling. Not in the sense that I have limited movement or lack of air in our planet
<- I can only imagine what this man felt when he discovered he was going to die without ever setting a foot in space. A beautiful human being that poured his passion and soul into his work, inspiring generations with his love and curiosity about the Universe. :')
*Salute*
Carl Sagan is my priest. The way he articulates his wonderment about our universe is so captivating that just listening to him can instantly make sense of subjects normally beyond my grasp of understanding.
I love space more than anything I can think of. It's interesting to me that I don't like most sci-fi shows at all, but I think it's part because I feel I am going to die before any cool shit like that ever happens. And it's partially because the fakeness of many sci-fi shows really puts me off in a galaxy where such amazing things take place every day on scales nearly incomprehensible
Memphis Reigns
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Miau said:True. Thinking about the extraordinary progress we made in such little time during the Cold War... and seeing humanity not uniting their efforts into what is ultimately our final goal and destination fills me with anxiety.
It's difficult to convey entirely my feelings, but if I had to describe it, I'd say its almost a claustrophobic feeling. Not in the sense that I have limited movement or lack of air in our planet
<- I can only imagine what this man felt when he discovered he was going to die without ever setting a foot in space. A beautiful human being that poured his passion and soul into his work, inspiring generations with his love and curiosity about the Universe. :')
*Salute*
Billions and Billions of salutes.
I read a series of interviews with Sagan where he was asked if he believed in an afterlife. He gave one of his objective answers, saying there was no proof either way. But that if there was, he hoped it would enable him to traverse the cosmos so he could learn and study the things he dreamed about.
abstract alien
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God, this is breathtaking...TOM f'N CRUISE said:
UltimaPooh
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Amir0x said:man just looking at that fills me with a sense of unavoidable dread, knowing i am going to die before we can explore all these magnificent galaxies and their almost certainly diverse amounts of life on a endless amount of planets.
So beautiful
Just believe in reincarnation and it will happen. Hell you might end up on another planet in a better position of life if you did good in this one.
abstract alien
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I really hope such a thing would happen. We could be blessed with an extra ten lives and still be short on time...it really is a bit melancholy. At this point, and probably for the next 150 years at least, it feels like we are being teased. We are constantly being tormented with new enlightenments, updated theories, and unbelievable photos that we will never see through to the end.UltimaPooh said:
:^/
Amir0x said:
The "Cosmos" collection is one of most precious possessions I have. I haven't seen them in years but this thread is tempting me. I googled a bit and discovered the series got a DVD release. Maybe I should hunt one of those before all those VHS's stop working.
And yes, its impressive how he conveys all that information and enthusiasm to the viewer. Even my mother, who isn't a big fan of astronomy would stop whatever she was doing and watch it with me. His narration, the imaginary journey aboard the star ship, and the beautiful soundtrack really makes it a magical experience. Schools should show this to kids while talking about space.
About sci-fi series, I'm exactly the opposite, I like them because they are inspiring and make me feel like it's the closest I'll ever be to experiencing space. Of course, theres only so much crap one can take. :lol
And although the sci-fi series I like the most focus more on the characters (BSG, Babylon 5), none of them, I think, have the same appeal, or are as inspiring as the ones who focus on deep space exploration.
I actually prefer the first Star Trek to Wrath of Khan, don't kill me.
Memphis Reigns said:
:lol
:')
Machado said:
Lord Sagan.
abstract alien
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He is indeed the man. Maybe we will get a bluray release one day soon.Miau said:
I've always found this odd about myself as well. I'm completely infatuated with space and its many facets, but sci-fi books and shows(and games) are completely uninteresting to me for the most part. Perhaps its also due to the fact that while many shows are based in space, they still are very much grounded in our reality. They never quite deliver on just how huge the scope of it is from our perspective, nor do they give us a taste of the truly amazing or other "worldly". For a place that garners a near unimaginable number of sights, sounds, and situations...most of the books, shows, and games leave me with a "meh" feeling.Amir0x said:
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Yeah, Sagan's my shortlist of people I'd be gay for.
abstract alien said:
I didn't even knew that Cosmos got a DVD release.:lol
Let's hope for a Bluray edition, though.
Since you talked about sci-fi games, one I really liked was Freelancer. It wasn't as fleshed out as they initially promised, but I think it was really an engaging game that capitalized on the space theme. Most of the time you were alone, traveling huge distances as you went to your objectives, with a soothing ambient music that fit very well the on-screen action. It has a very different feel to it than most of space games. I still play it regularly.
About the rest, well... It's part of the human nature to associate everything with the references we have. Even most alien designs we see are humanoid.:lol
So I do agree that sometimes it reaches a point were it seems so generic you can't take it anymore. One example are those sci-fi episodes that every Trek-Stargate series has; they somehow reach a planet that it's still on its Middle Age stage of development. Every time I see that shit I just change the channel.:lol
Amir0x said:man just looking at that fills me with a sense of unavoidable dread, knowing i am going to die before we can explore all these magnificent galaxies and their almost certainly diverse amounts of life on a endless amount of planets.
So beautiful
no need to be
about it.even by traveling @ the speed of light, no human being would live long enough to even cover the 100.000+ years (BTW good luck finding an energy source that can accelerate shit @ the speed of light for 100.000 years) that would be required to get a full view of our own milky way galaxy .... let alone traveling to the sombrero galaxy and exploring it (add another shazillion years). :lol
the distances are to big ...
our lives are too short ...
it's inconceivable.
abstract alien
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Maybe, just maybe, the whole "worm hole" theory will pan out into something noteworthy. That would then create the problem of getting the information back to us through said wormhole, since I highly doubt we would send humans through such a thing. There is no telling what the hell could happen if something passed through an object(or entity, whatever) like that.Taiser said:no need to be
even by traveling @ the speed of light, no human being would live long enough to even cover the 100.000+ years (BTW good luck finding an energy source that can accelerate shit @ the speed of light for 100.000 years) that would be required to get a full view of our own milky way galaxy .... let alone traveling to the sombrero galaxy and exploring it (add another shazillion years). :lol
the distances are to big ...
our lives are too short ...
it's inconceivable.
*sigh* We're screwed, at least for the next million years, or whenever the sun decides to croak and leave us its going away present.
Taiser said:no need to be
even by traveling @ the speed of light, no human being would live long enough to even cover the 100.000+ years (BTW good luck finding an energy source that can accelerate shit @ the speed of light for 100.000 years) that would be required to get a full view of our own milky way galaxy .... let alone traveling to the sombrero galaxy and exploring it (add another shazillion years). :lol
the distances are to big ...
our lives are too short ...
it's inconceivable.
Not necessarily true. Time dilation allows the distances to be shorted by substantial amounts, no, by enormous amounts. Einstein proved that time dilation at the speed of light exists. It would be possible to transverse large distances, such as the space between galaxies and even further in the span of a human life. You would live and survive the journey, but there would probably be no Earth left behind when you got back, and everyone you knew would be long since dead.
Neverender
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Extollere said:
Thinking about that just creeps me out.
GodfatherX
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I went to a laser light show at the University of Louisville planetarium tonight for Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon...totally sober/not high might I add...and prior to the show I was looking at some of the posters for their normal shows.
Anybody been to one of these at a planetarium? Is it worth the price of admission?
Anybody been to one of these at a planetarium? Is it worth the price of admission?
abstract alien
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Are you referring to the lightspeed/slower aging issue? I honestly forgot about that. Did he also make a statement about time travel being possible once speeds beyond lightspeed were attained? Maybe not time travel so to speak, but space/time manipulation of some sort?Extollere said:
Crazymoogle
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abstract alien said:
No, I think he's just suggesting that due to gravitational time dilation, you could travel pretty far (billions of lightyears) in one lifetime at 1g acceleration (Speed of Light) but when you came back, Earth (and the Sun) could be well past life expectancy as in their timeframe billions of years have passed.
Wikipedia suggests 1 year of 1g travel = 10 years of regular existence, FWIW.
The problem of hitting such speeds is the energy required, of course, which is why things like bending space-time (wormholes, "warp" engines, etc.) have at least some tenuous theoretical interest from time to time.
abstract alien
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How could something such as a wormhole even be productive if, upon reaching the other side, light speed would still be needed to navigate? Hmmm, the wormhole could get us there, but we would be "stuck", unable to explore even a minute section of space without completely destroying our way back to the life we left behind.Crazymoogle said:
*scratches head* What would an ideal situation be, if energy wasn't an issue?
Did anyone happen to see the Astronomy Picture Of The Day today?
An image of the Cosmic Background Radiation in our atmosphere (or something like that, I didn't fully grasp the wording). The similarities to a yin/yang are eerie. What do those crazy Taoist know that we don't?
An image of the Cosmic Background Radiation in our atmosphere (or something like that, I didn't fully grasp the wording). The similarities to a yin/yang are eerie. What do those crazy Taoist know that we don't?
Just to clarify that a little (while making a couple simplifications--bear with me physicists). What you're looking at is the radiation given off by galaxies. The galaxies in the red region are moving away from us (which is expected, the universe is expanding) and the ones in the blue region are moving closer to us. The fact that the ones in our direction of motion are moving faster than the relative speed of the expansion of the universe is just a little strange.pirahna1 said:
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RankoSD said:You don't need to accelerate the whole time.
You only need momentum-acceleration to reach the speed of light, as soon as you reach it you can turn off that energy source and you will travel at that speed for a looong time
I don't think this will ever be possible. In Star Trek, they use deflectors to move space debris, but in reality, if that were to ever happen, imagine pushing rock fragments in various directions at speeds of light. Who knows where they will hit.
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Yo Space GAF... Quick question.
I noticed in the Apollo 11 photos that you can't see stars from the lunar surface in the pictures. I'm just curious if there is an explination for this, especially if it's official. No I'm not insinuating that we haven't been to the moon, I'm just curious as to what the answer is for this.
I noticed in the Apollo 11 photos that you can't see stars from the lunar surface in the pictures. I'm just curious if there is an explination for this, especially if it's official. No I'm not insinuating that we haven't been to the moon, I'm just curious as to what the answer is for this.