Crash Station
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At least we should be getting to the semi-good part in 3 or 4 episodes.
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At least we should be getting to the semi-good part in 3 or 4 episodes.
dakkumauji
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Accel World 03
Exposition oh boy! Lots and lots of exposition. Still can't get over how the MC looks, so this show is definitely going to have an uphill battle in me caring about it.
Exposition oh boy! Lots and lots of exposition. Still can't get over how the MC looks, so this show is definitely going to have an uphill battle in me caring about it.
hosannainexcelsis
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Soredemo Machi wa Mawatteiru 12
Wow. That was a shocking place for something like this to go, and it was pulled off quite well. There was a surprising amount of emotional depth (played straight!) and it brought together the town in which Hotori lives to create a satisfying and meaningful conclusion.
Overall, I was impressed with the amount of variety on display. So many comedies get bogged down in one place or rely on the repetitive quirks of a couple characters, but not so here. The show had no problem shifting between wildly different scenarios: the maid cafe this is ostensibly about appeared much less than I thought it would, and there was an overabundance of charming characters. I had no time to get bored.
Certain Shaft budget-saving measures were noticeable, such as a lack of background pedestrians on the streets and unimpressive backgrounds, but the animation was incredibly consistent for the studio. The trademark weird camera angles, quick edits, and slow-motion pans were put to great use in enhancing the visual humor, especially in how it distorted the characters. Despite the "poko"s, this show is perhaps the best example of how successful Shaft style can be when the studio doesn't get too lazy. It did end up settling down a bit from the manic pace of the first episode, but I didn't mind. There wasn't a single episode I didn't enjoy.
I'd have to say this ranks among the all-time best anime comedies, right alongside something like Fumoffu.
Wow. That was a shocking place for something like this to go, and it was pulled off quite well. There was a surprising amount of emotional depth (played straight!) and it brought together the town in which Hotori lives to create a satisfying and meaningful conclusion.
Hotori may have been annoying and dumb, but in the end she was an irreplaceable part of her community, touching so many lives in an unforgettable way.
Overall, I was impressed with the amount of variety on display. So many comedies get bogged down in one place or rely on the repetitive quirks of a couple characters, but not so here. The show had no problem shifting between wildly different scenarios: the maid cafe this is ostensibly about appeared much less than I thought it would, and there was an overabundance of charming characters. I had no time to get bored.
Certain Shaft budget-saving measures were noticeable, such as a lack of background pedestrians on the streets and unimpressive backgrounds, but the animation was incredibly consistent for the studio. The trademark weird camera angles, quick edits, and slow-motion pans were put to great use in enhancing the visual humor, especially in how it distorted the characters. Despite the "poko"s, this show is perhaps the best example of how successful Shaft style can be when the studio doesn't get too lazy. It did end up settling down a bit from the manic pace of the first episode, but I didn't mind. There wasn't a single episode I didn't enjoy.
I'd have to say this ranks among the all-time best anime comedies, right alongside something like Fumoffu.
Outlaw Star has not aged well
Worth watching for whatever that awesome gun is called, though.
A Black Falcon
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Samurai Champloo is good, but Outlaw Star was pretty underwhelming.
It makes it look somewhat boring. Also I'm generally not much of a fan of modern art. Still, it is possible for anime to use stuff inspired by that and look interesting -- Madoka Magica, most notably -- but this is most certainly not that.
See above.
Angel Beats! Ep. 2
Is this show for real?
So you go into a show probably trying to dislike it, and then do? How shocking!
Seriously, why even watch, if that's the attitude you start with?
Femmeworth
Banned
I am actually trying to give this show a fair shot, but it is not doing itself any favors. So far it has only demonstrated itself as being emotionally manipulative and tonally bipolar.
Ultimadrago
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Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
The problem that I have with this analysis is that it implies that modern anime is "superior" because of the regurgitation of ideas established previously by more successful titles. Which is debatable since I don't believe Bebop had any particular influence on the medium beyond very few examples.
kiunchbb
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I watch the show because it was super hyped and like by the Chinese anime community. I watch the whole thing thinking it was good, Angel Beats have awesome moments, good set of comedy each episode, it was a fun watch.
I just felt so cheated on the ending, another show that set a good premise and story background, but have no creativity to conclude the story properly. It had "buy more drama CD, manga, and sequel" written all over it at the last episode.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Waka Waka was an awful song.
Only a hardcore videophile would notice that. Not a real issue!!!!
Sounds interesting. Gonna move it up higher on my to watch list since I'm in the mood for good comedy anime.
Jormungand 02:
I think that the show has been pretty competent so far. It has solid production values, is reasonably interesting, and scratches the military otaku itch without getting too bogged down in terminology. I still think that a lot of the characters have personalities that are fairly incompatible with their line of work, but I can live with it.
Koko is extraordinarily cute for a merchant of death. She also has an oddly serpentine look to her, but considering the title of the show I'm sure that this is intentional. Posters familiar with the manga seem to think that a really great story arc is imminent, so I have high expectations going forward.
The jelly filter has invaded anime. Get to cover, your health is low!
I think that the show has been pretty competent so far. It has solid production values, is reasonably interesting, and scratches the military otaku itch without getting too bogged down in terminology. I still think that a lot of the characters have personalities that are fairly incompatible with their line of work, but I can live with it.
Koko is extraordinarily cute for a merchant of death. She also has an oddly serpentine look to her, but considering the title of the show I'm sure that this is intentional. Posters familiar with the manga seem to think that a really great story arc is imminent, so I have high expectations going forward.
Femmeworth
Banned
Angel Beats! Ep. 3
How subtle.
Actually, yes.
Its honestly so bad its entertaining. Shit is so random and ridiculous you'll love it.
This is a correct ranking.
Oh but there is. For one thing, CAT EARS.
Honestly yeah she did set herself up for failure.
It seems to work better if you let it buffer an episode for five minutes first.
A Black Falcon
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Stop what, talking about Angel Beats? Why should I, when there's still more to respond to?
Beyond that, I didn't mention that there, but part of why I responded like that is because I don't like "reviews" which are a single, often-insulting image... it says so little. Actually say what your problems are if you dislike something.
Like, in that case, it's obvious Femmeworth doesn't like the show, but there's no hint of why in those images. Only now is there finally part of a reason given, after I responded with that.
But they're not followed by pantsu shots or boob bounces. They're innocent cat ears.
How's that any different from "OMG IT ROCKS!! FUCK YEAH."
MGX 2
I think I'd have a slightly less off-putting feeling when watching this if they didn't make the drool look like some thick gunk-like substance. I'm pretty sure saliva doesn't have the same consistency as industrial glue or something.
Other than the gross misrepresentation of the properties of saliva I'm still enjoying this a fair bit even though Tsubaki's character felt weaker than in the previous episode.
I think I'd have a slightly less off-putting feeling when watching this if they didn't make the drool look like some thick gunk-like substance. I'm pretty sure saliva doesn't have the same consistency as industrial glue or something.
Other than the gross misrepresentation of the properties of saliva I'm still enjoying this a fair bit even though Tsubaki's character felt weaker than in the previous episode.
A Black Falcon
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I generally prefer detail, sure, either way, as my reviews show... I will admit, though, it is often easier to criticize than to praise. That's too bad, praise is great and good shows should be praised, but it does often seem to be true.
Femmeworth
Banned
You could have just asked me to elaborate. Post like that are not meant to be reviews, they're (knee-jerk) reactions. Still, point taken.
One begets love, the other begets violence
Critique is critique. One sentence saying something was good is no different from one sentence saying something is bad. Life isn't a circle jerk.
A Black Falcon
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So you actually do have reasons that you dislike it? Images like that don't explain anything...
Anyway, though, "emotionally manipulative" is the pejorative way to explain Key's style of drama, I think. I'd call it more emotional than manipulative... the goal is to make a tragic story you'll feel something about, but "manipulation" in specific? While perhaps true, it's no more true than for most other things on film -- the goal is always to manipulate the watcher in some way, after all, in any medium. Key's only differences are that their stories are all centered on tragedy, and that they're pretty good at coming up with sad situations. But everything is trying to manipulate the audience somehow, of course.
You do know that this consensus against Angel Beats only exists on animeGAF, right?
I thought that the ending was one of the best things about the show, myself...
it's so much better than if it'd had a depressing ending, they really deserved a happy end after all that sadness.
I don't expect people to all write as much as I do, of course, just say something about their reasoning.
But yeah, sorry, those single-image responses kind of annoy me. (This is the one good thing about there being no smilies on GAF, no single-smilie post response chains...)
You're kind of right, but I do think cajun has a point if he means that people are more likely to react more strongly to the criticism than to the praise.
Haiyoru! Nyaruani: Remember My Mr. Lovecraft 1-11 (FINAL) + Special?
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I don't think this is that Nyarko-san show you guys have been watching.
Haiyoru! Nyaruani (ONA) 1-8 (FINAL)
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I don't think this is it either.
Nyarko-san: Another Crawling Chaos 1
This is it!
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Oh. Um. Okay. Well. At least that wasn't Medaka Box.
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I don't think this is that Nyarko-san show you guys have been watching.
Haiyoru! Nyaruani (ONA) 1-8 (FINAL)
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I don't think this is it either.
Nyarko-san: Another Crawling Chaos 1
This is it!
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Oh. Um. Okay. Well. At least that wasn't Medaka Box.
You always seem to fall back on this excuse for some reason. Who the fuck cares about that?
"Oh some other people somewhere on the internet like it so clearly anyone who disagrees is either lying or fails to conform to the larger consensus". It's a shit argument and it will always be a shit argument.
Now can we please stop bringing up Angel Beats for the umpteenth goddamned time?
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
The Knight in the Area 16
HAHAHAHA oh god this is so stupid. Heart transplants should be banned from the game.
I'm still liking the show despite all the awfulness, but it is not a football show I would recommend to anyone.
HAHAHAHA oh god this is so stupid. Heart transplants should be banned from the game.
I'm still liking the show despite all the awfulness, but it is not a football show I would recommend to anyone.
Ok that one was cool.
Nobody cares, we're on AnimeGAF. I'm not interested in seeing you compare one very small contingent of nerds to another very small contingent of nerds.
Femmeworth
Banned
It's emotionally manipulative because I can fully see that it's trying to push my buttons. That is not a good way to foster a suspension of disbelief.
That's perfectly acceptable, especially if it is in regards to a series that you like.
I really want to know the consensus on Angel Beats from a community that holds Code Geass R2 as one of the all time greatest anime
A Black Falcon
Member
That's not a fallback position, just a fact.
Somewhere else on the internet? Not too far, given that AB finished high in GAF's 2010 best anime of the year thread. That's why I specify animeGAF and not GAF in general.
I wouldn't mind moving on, once this discussion is done, but given how it seems to be a lot of people's favorite whipping boys, I doubt it'll go away for good...
I would be interested to know what else animeGAF has a strongly different position on versus general consensus, apart from Key hate... I think there are some things, but what are they?
(And yes, I know that obviously there isn't a consensus for everything. Of course there couldn't be, people are going to have different opinions on different things.)
That soccer anime music is similar to this song? That's pretty cool, gotta it check it out.
A Black Falcon
Member
But as I said, when is a story not trying to do something like that? I guess your issue is because of how it's all borderline-overdone tragedy for every character? That is kind of true, but they do it so well it works out fine overall.
What community would that be (I of course quite dislike Geass, as much because of my great dislike for evil main characters as for anything -- it's a similar reason to why I dislike Death Note)?
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Outlaw Star has not aged well
Worth watching for whatever that awesome gun is called, though.
That's pretty bad then, seeing as Outlaw Star wasn't even good to begin with. It's a mediocre anime that only had some degree of popularity because it aired on TV at the right time.
Femmeworth
Banned
Yes. The issue isn't whether or not a work is trying to evoke an emotion from me, it's how. The quick changes in tone don't help.
Basileus777
Member
You guys are really going to make me watch Angel Beats. I haven't actually watched a Key anime (only read Clannad, Little Busters VNs), so maybe I should just bite the bullet.
Well, if you'd listened to us you'd have known not to expect a lot of maids in this maid anime!
The show certainly wasn't afraid to test its boundaries, with things like
Hotori's little brother's date, aliens, time travel, and the afterlife.
Honestly, you should at least give it a try. Some people do actually enjoy it, so who knows?
Crash Station
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Accel World 3
This game sure does have a lot of rules. I still find them pretty interesting though. Another exposition-heavy episode, yet I find myself immersed; what the hell is going on!?
So just like Evangelion, we have the 15 year rule. At least the justification for it isn't so bad.
I really liked the scene at the end. Was pretty heavy. It is nice to know more about Haru's insecurities, though it didn't really seem like he displayed them to this extent before. Not so out of the ordinary I suppose. It also clarifies the meaning of Direct Linking a bit more (as in it's for people with deep relationships that aren't necessarily romantic). Will be interesting to see where this goes next week.
Also, Haru x Taku is best pairing.
This game sure does have a lot of rules. I still find them pretty interesting though. Another exposition-heavy episode, yet I find myself immersed; what the hell is going on!?
So just like Evangelion, we have the 15 year rule. At least the justification for it isn't so bad.
I really liked the scene at the end. Was pretty heavy. It is nice to know more about Haru's insecurities, though it didn't really seem like he displayed them to this extent before. Not so out of the ordinary I suppose. It also clarifies the meaning of Direct Linking a bit more (as in it's for people with deep relationships that aren't necessarily romantic). Will be interesting to see where this goes next week.
Also, Haru x Taku is best pairing.
i'd recommend kanon 2002. it's quite the experience!
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