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Spring Anime 2012 II | Welcome Home Eureka
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But they made Tristia of the Deep Blue Sea <3
Jex
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It's not hard to locate the two biggest problems with Hyouka, neither of which have anything to do with the actual quality of the production:
Problem the first: The show appears to be about solving extremely mundane mysteries which have no inherent 'weight' to them - nothing that would make an audience care about how they are resolved.
Detective stories aren't just popular because detective-type characters demonstrate their cognitive abilities to decipher mysteries. They're popular because crime and murder are interesting topics. When someone has been murdered most people would say that it's really important to know who did it and why. When someone borrows a book regularly from a library, or opens their windows to let air out a room, it doesn't engender the same interest.
Perhaps they're will be some radical event which forces him to alter his position on life at some point in the future, but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen anytime soon based on what I've seen so far.
Problem the first: The show appears to be about solving extremely mundane mysteries which have no inherent 'weight' to them - nothing that would make an audience care about how they are resolved.
Detective stories aren't just popular because detective-type characters demonstrate their cognitive abilities to decipher mysteries. They're popular because crime and murder are interesting topics. When someone has been murdered most people would say that it's really important to know who did it and why. When someone borrows a book regularly from a library, or opens their windows to let air out a room, it doesn't engender the same interest.
Problem the second: Our protagonist isn't just boring by virtue of being a flat character, he's boring because that's his goal in life. Branduil, perhaps correctly, points out that this is the point of the show, but it still doesn't make watching the show any more tolerable.
Perhaps they're will be some radical event which forces him to alter his position on life at some point in the future, but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen anytime soon based on what I've seen so far.
Ultimadrago
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Yes, though
Victorique > Eru
And dead people > Hyouka "spoilers"
library book patterns
Hmmm....tie.
I wouldn't call them mundane (lots of dead people), they just weren't good. And then apparently it turns into some weird genealogy action show with loli rape.
That's when it got good.
I have no idea how those words fit together to form an existing concept.
I guess I would consider murder mysteries to be mundane because thats what it almost always is. Its run of the mill stuff.
I don't know, GK Chesterton made it work pretty well. (Admittedly a lot of the Father Brown mysteries looked like murders at first glance)
Yeah, it's kinda weird. (And my description doesn't make much sense, true.)
I guess this is what happened:
In one of her many performances, she attracts the interest of Marquis Albert de Blois, who is interested in her bloodline. She is later kidnapped by Albert, who after keeping her inside the Blois Mansion for a year, impregnates her. On Christmas Day of 1910, a child was born: Victorique de Blois.
And then apparently there's like a
government conspiracy and things blow up, or something.
e: It's just really weird.
Femmeworth
Banned
I guess its best to just avoid mystery shows containnig the letters "GO"
hosannainexcelsis
Member
I can verify 7th's statement. It's quite good!
Well there's a lot of mystery in Un-Go... just not the mysteries themselves.
Now I wonder if there are going to be more works from the Anime Bunko (アニメ文庫
series... did ufotable and Aniplex Inc., confirm anything about this? They presented it as some kind of platform for releasing this OVAs that seemed it could continue in the future with the same label, but I don't know if those are their intentions right now...darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Don't blame you at all. The 300SL in Fate/Zero looks fine, it provides an added dimension that the 2D stuff doesn't. That 2D car just looks ridiculously goofy and not really in an intended way. I'm glad the greatest show in the history of shows Fate/Zero decided to not go that route.
Gosick doesn't have Inga, which is a huge point in its favor.
This type of post only works if your past post history wouldn't paint this as a serious post...
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Excuse me? I'm completely serious. The cars in Fate/Zero are fine. And it's certainly the best overall show in the past 2 years. I think it's a bit rude of you to be insinuating otherwise.
PdotMichael
Banned
Jormungand fanboy!
but the weapons are truly hot
good mechanical arts are the best kind of fanservice!
Femmeworth
Banned
Blood-C taught me to not trust 2D trains, so I can't trust 2D cars by extension. D:
CG has rotted your brain.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
The car in Minori Scramble is supposed to look goofy. It's slapstick comedy.
Jex
Member
Dead people is already less mundane by default.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Sure, why not!
Jex
Member
Un-Go is less boring, at least.
So you're saying that you are a propaganda agent for 7Th?
Theonik
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Dai Mahou Touge 3-6
Speak of CG cars:
I only have 2 more to go unfortunately ;_;
Speak of CG cars:
Very fun episodes, Punie-Chan continues to be scary and more wrestling action and we get to see
Potato-Dono again! I though he died back in that pot but Yay~
I couldn't stop laughing when this happened this show has so many gems.
Like the helicopter battle
I refuse to take this post seriously ;_;
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Bah, I was extolling the virtues of Minori's 2D car chase long before 7th.
Too many hipsters in this thread.
Ultimadrago
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Hyouka 3
I'm enjoying this.
I'm not particularly fond of Chitanda, Mayaka, or Satoshi, but I really like Oreki. I don't find his "lifestyle choice" as annoying as I thought I would before watching the first episode, and I really appreciate main characters with great observational skills. Even if the "mysteries" he solves are pretty minor, they're still interesting because of the way he unravels them by pointing towards things and facts the show hints at along the episode.
Since I appreciate Oreki, I end up having fun with the other characters as well because of the different ways they approach him. The interactions between them are interesting, and as a result we get simple yet cool scenes like the one in in which Chitanda and Mayaka start heading for the old clubroom in search of the Anthologies, and Oreki just stays there and picks up something to read, only to be called by Chitanda; or the one in which Chitanda unintentionally motivates Oreki by saying they'd have to search "the entire school" if their upperclassman didn't let them in.
Another reason why I feel it's a pleasure to watch this show: it is beautiful. There are interesting shots everywhere, and the different visual styles KyoAni uses to represent flashbacks or the mysteries keep things fresh. Everything moves so smoothly, too.
I also think the writing is pretty clever. They don't leave any blind spots. What made me realize that in this episode was when Oreki mentioned
And, finally, I want to know what her uncle's story is all about, because, honestly - there are no clues yet. This seems to be the most important point in the plot, though, so I guess we won't really understand everything until the final episodes.
I'm enjoying this.
I'm not particularly fond of Chitanda, Mayaka, or Satoshi, but I really like Oreki. I don't find his "lifestyle choice" as annoying as I thought I would before watching the first episode, and I really appreciate main characters with great observational skills. Even if the "mysteries" he solves are pretty minor, they're still interesting because of the way he unravels them by pointing towards things and facts the show hints at along the episode.
Since I appreciate Oreki, I end up having fun with the other characters as well because of the different ways they approach him. The interactions between them are interesting, and as a result we get simple yet cool scenes like the one in in which Chitanda and Mayaka start heading for the old clubroom in search of the Anthologies, and Oreki just stays there and picks up something to read, only to be called by Chitanda; or the one in which Chitanda unintentionally motivates Oreki by saying they'd have to search "the entire school" if their upperclassman didn't let them in.
Another reason why I feel it's a pleasure to watch this show: it is beautiful. There are interesting shots everywhere, and the different visual styles KyoAni uses to represent flashbacks or the mysteries keep things fresh. Everything moves so smoothly, too.
I also think the writing is pretty clever. They don't leave any blind spots. What made me realize that in this episode was when Oreki mentioned
Chitanda's cold prevented her from using her acute sense of olfaction to realize their upperclassman was smoking in the clubroom. Before that scene, we saw her sneezing at least a couple of times.
And, finally, I want to know what her uncle's story is all about, because, honestly - there are no clues yet. This seems to be the most important point in the plot, though, so I guess we won't really understand everything until the final episodes.
PdotMichael
Banned
But you watched 4 episodes. I don't know who is the bigger monster here. Production I.G. or you.
Crash Station
Member
Phi Brain S2 5
So the P.O.G. went from a murderous puzzle organization to
Interesting?
Gyamon episodes are always good. The guy is pretty much a deutragonist at this point.
How fast can you solve this?
So the P.O.G. went from a murderous puzzle organization to
an entertainment company?
Gyamon episodes are always good. The guy is pretty much a deutragonist at this point.
Have you tried the "Rick's bread" method of watching? Every time someone in the show says "Rick's bread" or just mentions bread in general, mentally substitute "bread" with "penis". You instantly have a ton of hilarious euphemisms per episode and it immediately becomes one of the best shows of the season. You just have to be willing to be a little juvenile.
Dedication Through Light
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It is hard to put Bread of Happiness in the worst thing ever category, unless one has been pretty great at evading certain anime.
The intermission images are nice and the ED.
Magical Witch Punie - 5 & 6
5
Bwahahaha, if I fail this test, I'll nuke the solar system.
Potato-dono returns, only to become a casualty again.
6
Anego scores a date with her first love... only for it to end in Ridge Racer, quite literally because those cg cars looked the part.
5
Bwahahaha, if I fail this test, I'll nuke the solar system.
Potato-dono returns, only to become a casualty again.
6
Anego scores a date with her first love... only for it to end in Ridge Racer, quite literally because those cg cars looked the part.
Jex
Member
I think a bigger problem is that really awful CG truck car from the latest episode of Fate/Zero.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
That's not a car. Thats a truck.
PdotMichael
Banned
the 2d arts are just bad or not on the same level as the 3D car
Well, that's definitely the excuse I'd use if I was the CG artist.
Jex
Member
I think something that's even more important is the excellent cinematography. As someone else has already eloquent said:
Not that I agree with everything that he's said.raito_kun said:
Hellsing321
Member
Yeah. I don't know about the comparison with Fate/Zero, but the directing is really overachieving here.
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