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Spring Anime 2012 | Welcome Home, Space Cowboy

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frostbyte

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The anime's music was pretty forgettable but not terrible. There wasn't a lot of track variety though, so the 'dramatic emotional music' got used over and over at the end with diminishing returns. The music of the F/Z anime is far superior to the F/SN anime (like everything else), and I would have said that even if I didn't like Yuki Kajiura.

ah, thanks. and yes F/Z music > F/SN.

Someone was saying in this thread that ufotable isn't interested in remaking F/SN I think. They could still do Heaven's Feel if they wanted, I'm told that the Fate and UBW routes are fairly similar in many ways but the HF route is very different, making it a viable standalone project. After the sales of the F/Z box they would be crazy not to want to adapt more of the franchise, I think Mahou Shoujo Yandere Ilya is great and everything but I also think a lot of people would kill for an animated adaptation of F/SN's last route.

I'd kill for a HF anime adaptation although I realise how hard it would be to do. Moreso than both Fate and UBW.

Well, even if ufotable does work on Heaven's Feel, the biggest problem would be that the major conflict of that storyline
killing Sakura to save innocents from being killed
is dependent on an major aspect of Shirou's character that the previous two adaptations have completely skipped over, which is
how he mentally portrayed Kiritsugu back when he was saved from the fire, and what he thought of Kiritsugu's ideals
. While Fate/Zero does tie significantly into Heaven's Feel, moreso than any other storyline, without knowing about that aspect the entire storyline loses its impact and becomes worthless.

They could try to inject that early on into the story, but that was supposed to be a major revelation in Fate and one of the driving forces behind the conflict in Unlimited Blade Works. At the start of Heaven's Feel, the story already expects the audience to understand that this is a major plot element and twists it accordingly.

That's true, Heaven's Feel does rely on the backstory a bit more than the previous. It's tone is also arguably darker and edgier than the previous two routes. I remember being pleasantly surprised at how different HF felt compared to playing the Fate and UBW routes.

As you said, couldn't they establish
Shirou's portrayal of Kiritsugu as a hero and his own ideals regarding one
early on, relying on the viewers to know about the plot of Fate and UBW routes. Sure, it'll be too reliant on other works but if they bill it as a alternate world sequel, and connected with F/Z, I think it could be pulled off.
 
Buta

Fun family entertainment executed with the utmost of craft. Conception-wise it's a traditional samurai story, somewhat along the lines of Sword of the Stranger, but taken in a light-hearted, cartoony direction appropriate for the anthropomorphic animal characters. What stuck out to me the most was how richly detailed all the background art was; great care was taken in making the world of this short feel like a real place. Details such as layered clouds were much appreciated. I wish it had shown a little more action, but what it did have was nicely animated.

Good start for this year's Young Animator Training Projects.
 

frostbyte

Member
I have yet to see Code, but I'm going to guess Lelouch is a better character than Shoe.

Shoe had nothing going for him. Except the lack of a CLAMP noodle body. I did like his hair though.

GC did have Ayase and Tsugumi so I like it more than I really should. They were too good for this pathetic excuse of a main character and show. ;_;

Lelouch is one of the most awesome anime characters ever, for better or for worse. Plus Fukuyama Jun is awesome.

Can we be nakama?
 

survivor

Banned
K-On 1

Whoa, this is pretty good.

I watched the first 5 episodes when they aired and dropped it, but I don't remember the first one being soo good. And it looks pretty too.
 
That's true, Heaven's Feel does rely on the backstory a bit more than the previous. It's tone is also arguably darker and edgier than the previous two routes. I remember being pleasantly surprised at how different HF felt compared to playing the Fate and UBW routes.

As you said, couldn't they establish
Shirou's portrayal of Kiritsugu as a hero and his own ideals regarding one
early on, relying on the viewers to know about the plot of Fate and UBW routes. Sure, it'll be too reliant on other works but if they bill it as a alternate world sequel, and connected with F/Z, I think it could be pulled off.

Well, the problem isn't getting that information to the viewer, the problem is making the viewer understand just how significant that information is. I mean, that is essentially the basis of Shirou's entire identity, and he fights tooth and nail for that in the previous two routes. HF challenges it almost right from the start, and it'd practically be impossible to portray that to the viewer without some serious rewriting, to the extent where they'd just be better off writing an original storyline or something.
 

wonzo

Banned
Smile Precure 2

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I can't say i'm a fan of the compact cosmetic transformation sequences. The ED's still horrifyingly transfixing and I just can't work out why.
 
K-On 1

Whoa, this is pretty good.

I watched the first 5 episodes when they aired and dropped it, but I don't remember the first one being soo good. And it looks pretty too.

K-ON is one of the best animated TV shows... ever. No studio can top Kyoto Animation when it comes to production values.
 

zeroshiki

Member
On rewatch, the start of the first K-On Season is kinda janky. K-On S2, you can tell they had a flood of money coming in and the animation quality went way up.

Cool beans. Looking forward to getting to it one day, already on mah listeses.

Drop whatever you're doing right now and go watch Geass. You will not be disappointed.
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
On rewatch, the start of the first K-On Season is kinda janky. K-On S2, you can tell they had a flood of money coming in and the animation quality went way up.

Yes, it's immediately apparent that the 2nd season had more money and time behind it. ^^;
 

cajunator

Banned
OreImo AC 4



now who was it again that said oreimo was representative of a perfectly normal sibling relationship?


it better be kikansha thomas and train hero

Are these included in the aniplex set? I honestly havent even checked.

I'm quite shy, but if I know someone, or when I was in classes in school, or somehow a conversation starts, I can talk a lot, sure. But otherwise... unlikely.

The hyper genki would be me for sure.

K-ON is one of the best animated TV shows... ever. No studio can top Kyoto Animation when it comes to production values.

No denying this show has ridiculous animation.
 

frostbyte

Member
Well, the problem isn't getting that information to the viewer, the problem is making the viewer understand just how significant that information is. I mean, that is essentially the basis of Shirou's entire identity, and he fights tooth and nail for that in the previous two routes. HF challenges it almost right from the start, and it'd practically be impossible to portray that to the viewer without some serious rewriting, to the extent where they'd just be better off writing an original storyline or something.

hmm...yeah. It's hard to get viewers invested in the characters and their ideals that has been expounded using copious amounts of text and over multiple routes, compared to the relatively short anime medium. Seems pretty hard to do unless ufotable makes all three routes under the same director/writer, planting all the needed foreshadowing and character development that's needed for HF. and that's such a immense and impossible undertaking.

I guess there isn't much chance of an adaptation for HF, or at least a good one ;_;

Cool beans. Looking forward to getting to it one day, already on mah listeses.

Remember to give your episode impressions whenever you watch it!

Yes, it's immediately apparent that the 2nd season had more money and time behind it. ^^;

Now I'm imagining how glorious the K-ON movie will look. Movie + Kyoani production values. *faints*
 

cajunator

Banned
On rewatch, the start of the first K-On Season is kinda janky. K-On S2, you can tell they had a flood of money coming in and the animation quality went way up.



Drop whatever you're doing right now and go watch Geass. You will not be disappointed.

This. Code Geass is ALWAYS a good decision to watch.
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
It's a shame they waste it on tripe like K-On and not on S3 of Haruhi.

Salvage yourselves with Hyouka KyoAni!

They need more source material to work with. The light novels were on hold in Japan for over 3 years due to differences between the author and publisher. The 10th book FINALLY came out last year.
 

frostbyte

Member
It actually kinda felt similar =/ There's only so much animation you can give High School Girls eating cake.

:( Hype deflated...

There's at least a good looking concert scene right? Cause if they walk around London just eating cake and drinking tea, I'd be mad still watch it...

Sigh...

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/desmondt006/Bonta-kun.gif[img]

The world needs more bonta kun.[/QUOTE]

I didn't really like FMP. It was okay I guess but nothing special. Am I a bad person?
 

jman2050

Member
They need more source material to work with. The light novels were on hold in Japan for over 3 years due to differences between the author and publisher. The 10th book FINALLY came out last year.

Well after disappearance they have what, 5 novels left to work with? Is there not enough material there for a full season?
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Well after disappearance they have what, 5 novels left to work with? Is there not enough material there for a full season?

The first two seasons cover material from books 1-6, with the movie doing all of 4. That would leave 7-9 before, but now that 10's out (and it's 2 books), I'd have to imagine they're in pre-production for more Haruhi now. I'm guessing 2013.
 

Narag

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G Gundam 34

Rain's scary as shit when she gets mad. Episode had this crazy good rooftop chase that went all out to embrace the shounen tropes present in the show. Episode had some more Sailor Moon nods since Allenby was a large presence.
Really wasn't expecting a wedge to be driven between Wong and Master Asia either. This should lead to good stuff. Episode was excellent and ending it with announcing his futures matches to be against the Shuffle Alliance was a fantastic idea.

Koutetsushin Jeeg 3

Old Jeeg callback? Aw yeah. Eyecatches are phenomenal too. Series is directed by Jun Kawagoe who did episodes 4-13 of Getter Robo Armageddon among other things so I shouldn't be surprised the episode felt like something out of that. I feel a little silly for never realizing (or simply forgetting) Imagawa did the first 3 episodes of Armageddon either. Can that man do no wrong?

Sailor Moon S 94

Bringing back Motoki's sister? What a wonderful sense of continuity.
Being targeted? That's some bullshit. Will rage if/when Naru is targeted.
Interesting to see the case of prolonged absence of the heart crystal too aside from, y'know, death.

This is becoming more and more standard. I should go back and count how many times flower petals and postcards mark them exiting a scene.

Buta

Somewhat standard story but everything else about this was friggin' gorgeous and a reminder why I love animation.

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Oreimo 2

Kuroneko's dissection of Saori was hilarious. Her argument with Kirino doubly so. Although it has no basis in truth or reality this is how the battle between Jexhius and Cajunator was enacted in my head when I just lurked the thread (and even then for a while after).

Demon Lord Dante 4

I still can't comprehend how something like this was made. Premise is decent enough and yet nothing is really going on. I don't see how a rampaging monster destroying a city could under deliver but I now have proof in this episode. What in the fuck is with this dialogue too?

Demon: I don't want to go to Hell!
God: Fine.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Heh... evolution, or devolution? It's hard ot say...

Seriously though, it would be nice sometime if something was a bit more accurate about the costumes... none of those four modern ones look very close at all. So the only "decay" would be from the top, original one to any of the latter four; I don't think there's any decay from those male ones to their recent female counterparts, no.

Can't they agree on whether she should have pink or green hair, though? :) You know, like how Ikkitousen and Koihime Musou use the same names for their female versions of Romance of the Three Kingdoms characters. That can't be a coincidence.

I think that there's a pretty linear decay in how the characters reflect the persona of the actual Tokugawa. The grizzled, armor-plated, cannon-wielding Tokugawa of the Sengoku Musou games still looks convincingly like someone who had the military might to unite all of Japan under his name. Basara's Tokugawa still exudes might but is much more bishounen (and in the game is a perfect idealist who prattles on about the power of "bonds"), Otome's Tokugawa is a young girl, and Collection's Tokugawa is an even younger girl.

I don't need total historical accuracy in how Sengoku-era figures are portrayed in games and anime, but I do prefer designs that reflect something about the character of the actual historical figure. Even genderswapped characters are fine in theory, but instances of genderswapping that serve a purpose beyond mere sexualization are rare. If Oda Nobuna was going to be a story about Nobunaga falling in the Spring of Drowned Woman, emerging female, and rising above doubts about a female's fitness to lead an army, I would probably be interested.

As it stands, every genderswapped Sengoku/Sangokushi show ever has been a blatant fanservice vehicle attempting to reconfigure a genre generally dominated by fujoshi to appeal to male otaku. The highlight of everything that we know about Oda Nobuna so far is that there's a character whose armor has breast jiggle. That's pretty sad.

I would assume that characters sharing names in Ikkitousen and Koihime Musou are probably the result of their being named directly after the historical figure they're meant to represent.

But in Sengoku Otome it was all just a big misunderstanding of sorts (Akechi was jealous of how much attention Nobunaga was giving the MC, not realizing that Nobunaga liked her too...), and Nobunaga doesn't die in that fire, she saves the MC and gets out fine! What, that's not how it happened in the history? :D

Sadly, there were no yuri confessions at the real Honnouji.
 
I doubt KyoAni wants to do more Haruhi, since the franchise doesn't have the mainstream appeal they've been at pains to give their more recent shows. Of course, the desire for more money may win out in the end.
 

Ultimadrago

Member
Steins;Gate 8

Lulz Daru, a perverted gentleman indeed.

Seems like I kind of got my wish for them to do little experiments for positive personal effects, even if they have all failed so far. Wouldn't mind one or two more before the larger plot moves forward.

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Do not pout ,Hip Hop Hipster Munoz, I'm on your side!
 
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