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Spring Anime 2012 | Welcome Home, Space Cowboy

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Branduil

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Fate/Zero 9

Poor Kayneth, that's pretty fucked up what happened to him no matter how much of an asshole he was. Rider's such a fucking boss too but man, opening of this episode makes me long for a show based on Lancer's past. I'd so watch that.

I wonder if they're going to explain at some point why
Kiritsugu has such a brokenly powerful weapon.
 
Didnt Saber and someone else
discover Caster's Noble Phantasm while fighting against his summoned creatures in the woods? That's when they first showed his book.
Yes. When Saber and Lancer were fighting Caster's demons, Lancer got rid of them by using his anti-magic spear against the book.
 
Blood-C Ep. 12

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Since I knew what was coming, it wasn't as bad.
 

cajunator

Banned
kobato 3

oh... just noticed that kobato gets a new cute outfit each eps kinda like CC sakura.

kob.jpg


omnomnomnom.


Yes its kind of nice to see another show that pays attention to changing wardrobes. Sad that it took another Clamp show to achieve this. a very CUTE Clamp show.

Erika is the genkiest genki there ever was.

Oh god. My weakness. Genki girls. You just sold me on Heartcatch Precure, you monster.
 

Thoraxes

Member
t-minus 11 hours 40 minutes until moe cthulhu strikes
Mondays used to be my Another Day.

It will now become Loli Cthulu day.

My train ride home just got that much more agonizing.
Blood-C Ep. 12

ite00jVZvkPcK.gif

Since I knew what was coming, it wasn't as bad.
I was the same way, but man, I just could not stop laughing at the end. Basically like your gif. The
moodshift
was just too funny.
 
So 2012 is going to have two movies featuring pirate girls. Not sure how I feel about that.
I was the same way, but man, I just could not stop laughing at the end. Basically like your gif. The
moodshift
was just too funny.
The whole series is hilarious.
 

Jex

Member
Also, why are most of the Servants actual, historical people and some of them completely fictional? I don't get it.
 
Saber isn't even a fairly tale. Arthur is fair tale, Saber is some weaboo nonsense.

It's not really any more nonsensical than
Rider having a flying chariot and being able to summon his dead army, or Archer having an airship that shoots rockets.

Also, why are most of the Servants actual, historical people and some of them completely fictional? I don't get it.

Who is completely fictional in F/Z? It's a fantasy universe, I'm not sure why it'd hard to suspend your disbelief that some mythological figures are real.
 
Yurumates 3D - 3 minute series based on a 4koma manga. I've read a few chapters of the manga, and this is very similar, except, well, animated. It's generic but amusing stuff, a decent 3 minute entertainment. In this episode, our heroine arrives at her new home. Poor her...

The picture is pretty cute in a slanted sort of way. Maybe I'm just desensitised after seeing so many pictures of Toei Kanon.

Don't bother, wonzo is committed to watching eyecancer because he can. :p

edit: Now looking at the Toei Kanon pic above and Kyoani Kanon pic below, I don't believe it but the Toei one is now slightly cuter.

wonzo, what have you done?
He has shown you the light!

KyoAni Kanon's too moe. I know KyoAni's art is better from an artistic standpoint, but it doesn't fit the series quite as well...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36752322&postcount=10762
That barely even looks like her!

I mean, she's supposed to look more like this. :)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36752252&postcount=10756

Enough to bankrupt the company :(
It should have done great, it's always sad to see something so good do badly. Quite unfortunate. :(

Madhouse wasn't a studio focused on high-sellers. They had many, many shows which sold worse than Chihayafuru.

Just look at 2008: Allison and Lillia, Kamen no Maid Guy, Top Secret ~The Revelation~, Kaiba, Ultraviolet: Code 044, Casshern Sins, Kurozuka, Mouryou no Hako, One Outs, and Chaos;Head all sold worse.
Allison was a pretty good show, but I'd rather not talk about Lillia... too bad it didn't do better, unless everyone just bought Allison and then stopped buying at the worse second half (sadly I doubt it though). :)

Huh, I coulda sworn that infirmary scene was in there... But then, what's out there of the manga proper isn't much, so it could be drawing from an even later chapter.
Um, the whole point is to show that she likes him now, not at some later point. Even if that is drawn from somewhere else in the series, it doesn't excuse its inclusion here at all.

Also, as I said, the bath scene and nurse's office scene were both new, and the classroom scene, a version of the manga's sports field scene I guess, is expanded versus the manga.

Of course the manga is creepy too at this point in the series -- stuff like the guy imagining field-stripping the gun-girls, or the beginning shooting gallery festival booth scene, are pretty much the same in the manga -- but the anime's definitely worse and has more of it. I hope that changes in the future.

And I agree, there was a bunch of stuff in there that was put into different context (such as where FNC was thinking about such things), and some of it's just a fleshing out of what was in the manga (like that shed collapsing). What I meant was that the scenarios themselves are true to the manga.
It's true ot the theme, sure, but it adds a LOT more of it and I do think that difference matters. I mean, the otaku are more likely to like it with more creepy otaku bait content at the start, right? That must be the thinking...

Honestly, I feel like the show in general is staying pretty dang true, despite the obvious otaku baiting with all the fanservice, and it retains everything I loved about the manga with some added "gun porn" jokes. I mean, think about it, when they were explaining what every part of the gun correlates to on the girls and it was ripe for "Wait, this makes no sense" jokes, in the manga, they just showed a field stripping manual and then the obvious association the teacher made. They kept the spirit where it counts, so I'm happy enough with that. Just as long as the action is up to par and the gun jokes keep coming, I'm happy. :3
Yeah, I'm hoping that the next episode is better ofr sure. The manga is often an amusing series, when it's focused on the girls and the fighting and not the creepy elements, and the manga is more about the better side of it than the worse side, thankfully. Hopefully the anime is similar, after this.

Fate/Zero 10
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What a fantastic change of pace from the other episodes. I'm really glad Rin's awesome both as a kid and when she grows up, plus seeing Tokiomi in a different light was really nice. It was somewhat touching, too... good shit.
Considering the preview at the end, I'm guessing 11 is a battle between the Kings?
I do need to watch this series sometime. I've been holding off because of how dark and depressing I know it gets, and I often dislike that kind of thing... but I should sometime, yeah.

It's totally accurate, but I love Rin, so I'm biased! You really have to get used to her, though, because she doesn't grow out of her stubbornness. Out of the three main heroines in FSN, she was certainly the best, if that's saying much at all.
Eh, Saber's a good character too, but yeah, Rin is even better.

I don't really know anything about it either, other than what people have said about it. It simply sounds like a less interesting premise than Fate/Zero. The strength of F/Z is that it has a certain gravitas due to virtually all of the characters being mature adults who have strong personal identities and goals that come into conflict with one another. F/SN just sounds like dumb harem crap.

That basically is what FSN is, yes.

Just kill off Shirou and replace him with someone that isn't a dumbass like his original female form.

Bring them back:
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Sakura can just be lesbian for her.

If only they'd do that... FSN remake, with that plot concept? Sounds good.
 
Dusk Maiden of Amnesia 1

Eh... I can sort of see what this was going for, but it didn't work. It spent too much time with gimmicks - the double run of the invisible ghost gag, the disorienting direction of the elevator scene - and not enough time establishing the characters. When you're trying to sell a relationship, you focus on its start, its development, its chemistry - you don't give people fractured perspectives and throw the premise in at the very end. There's no hook for me to latch onto. It doesn't do a great job of establishing atmosphere either - the transition between serious and comedic moments is awkward and I rolled my eyes at the random blood dripping. The art is OK at times, such as the city scene or the classroom, but the mountain scenes look off:


Welp, this is Silver Link. It's not as bad as C3, but I still get the feeling the director is trying to be clever without actually knowing what he's doing.

As far as romantic shows this season go, this is inferior to Mysterious Girlfriend X and Sankarea.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Mai Ritoru Poni: Yuujou wa Mahou 6

Not to be a neigh-sayer but I don’t really like this Trixie gal. Like Gilda in the last episode she gets thoroughly owned and doesn’t really learn any lessons or change her way of life at the end of the episode, I guess that’s actually quite realistic.

Enjoyable episode and Twilight truly is the best. So humble and yet so awesome. The most powerful pony in all of Equestria and she never mentions it or brags about it in front of her talentless pony friends.

Mustaches are always awesome. Goatees not so much, but mustaches are always in. Unfortunately for Spike it will not give him the Magic to land a date Rarity, but I do hope “Friendship is Magic” isn’t oh so literal for little ol’ Spike for the entirety of the series.
The amount of wrong in this post is out of Ponyville.
Mai Ritoru Poni: Yuujou wa Mahou 7

Fluttershy is quickly tanking on the list of ponies I would like to take for a ride. After this episode it’s now:

Twilight > Rainbow > Applejack > Pinkie Pie > Rarity > Fluttershy
See?
 
It's not really any more nonsensical than
Rider having a flying chariot and being able to summon his dead army, or Archer having an airship that shoots rockets.



Who is completely fictional in F/Z? It's a fantasy universe, I'm not sure why it'd hard to suspend your disbelief that some mythological figures are real.
The existence of King Arthur as a real person is debated among historians. Seems people got confused by what Jex meant as fictional. He meant they actually existed not that they're orignal character do not steal.
 

frostbyte

Member
ahoges are overrated much like long hair
plus it kinda sounds like the infinitely superior ahegao

no, you ahoge non believer

ahegao only works sometimes, ahoge is always cute

why do they sound so similar

I don't think that Gilgamesh respects Kirei in the sense that he sees him as an equal, but Kirei is the only person that can spar intellectually with Gilgamesh and still hold his own relatively well. Because of that, Gilgamesh can't treat Kirei like a puppet as he does Tokiomi--Kirei understands Gilgamesh's intentions even when they're masked by ulterior motives and isn't going to grovel because he has no particular desire for the Grail in the first place. This forces a certain level of honesty and cooperation from Gilgamesh, though not to the point that Gilgamesh would hesitate to betray Kirei if he ultimately somehow becomes a barrier to Gil's ambitions.

You're also right about Caster's Noble Phantasm. It was probably only mentioned once, but I'm still surprised that I forgot.

I agree.

I don't think Caster ever uses any "spells," the book summons the smaller demons or turns him into that giant Cthulhu.

Hmm, I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure Caster used some spells without the spellbook during the first time we are introduced to him
where he let go of the boy and then killed him soon after
Noble phantasms are supposed to be
manifestations and symbols of the power the hero once had in real life, aren't they? Then wouldn't the book be just a symbol and concentrated source of Caster's power, not the book being of its own will, summoning Cthulus as it pleases?
 

Jex

Member
It's not really any more nonsensical than
Rider having a flying chariot and being able to summon his dead army, or Archer having an airship that shoots rockets.
Well, once you get resurrected by an omnipotent wish granting device for the purposes of having a battle, I assume you're going to get some powers. I mean, this show has people who know magic!
Who is completely fictional in F/Z?

Saber is
Arthur
and Berserker is (speculation)
Lancelot.
Whos fictional? They're either actual historical people or based off some myth/legend.

That would, er, qualify them as fictional!
 
Well, once you get resurrected by an omnipotent wish granting device for the purposes of having a battle, I assume you're going to get some powers. I mean, this show has people who know magic!


Saber is
Arthur
and Berserker is
Lancelot.

It's a fantasy world where these people were real historical figures, I'm not sure why it's so hard to suspend your disbelief on that detail, but not on all the magic and supernatural stuff.
 

Jex

Member
I think some of you are thinking about fate/whatever waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too hard.

I was just curious whether the world of Fate/Zero was full of fictional people and historical people.
It's a fantasy world where these people where real historical figures, I'm not sure why it's so hard to suspend your disbelief on that detail, but not on all the magic and supernatural stuff.

Those aren't historical figures!
 

Jarmel

Banned
Also, why are most of the Servants actual, historical people and some of them completely fictional? I don't get it.

It's based on the principle of belief. It's not so much whether they existed but rather if people believed they did.

Still want Merlin as a Caster. So broken.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
I didn't get into the loli cthulhu show that much the first time around. Maybe I'm not familiar enough with the mythos to get the jokes. It seemed cute but boring.

I think you read ahegao as ahoge again.

Also, why are most of the Servants actual, historical people and some of them completely fictional? I don't get it.

Somehow I thought that Heroic Spirits weren't actually the spirits of dead heroes that had been revived but were just magic given form and sentience for the duration of the Holy Grail War and that the manifested heroes were just representations of their legends as they'd been passed down through time. That's not really consistent with anything that we've seen in the show (like, if "legends" are really what matter then why is Saber female if
Arthur
is male in his legend), but if I didn't actually pick any of this up from the show, I suppose it's just my personal theory, then.

The game Fate/Extra for PSP has a really freakish explanation for all of this:
Heroic Spirits are manifested by a magical computer on the Moon that has recorded all of human history from the dawn of civilization to the present and can manifest historical figures and literary figures with equal accuracy.
 

Jarmel

Banned
It's a fantasy world where these people were real historical figures, I'm not sure why it's so hard to suspend your disbelief on that detail, but not on all the magic and supernatural stuff.

Not always true. FSN spoilers
Assassin in FSN was completely fictional and never actually existed
 

Branduil

Member
Well, once you get resurrected by an omnipotent wish granting device for the purposes of having a battle, I assume you're going to get some powers. I mean, this show has people who know magic!


Saber is
Arthur
and Berserker is
Lancelot.

Wait, when did they say that
Berserker is Lancelot?

That would, er, qualify them as fictional!

Plenty of mythological characters are based on real people. Obviously in this universe they are real.
 
Not always true. FSN spoilers
Assassin in FSN was completely fictional and never actually existed
That was an exception, an example of the grail malfunctioning and Caster breaking the rules. And even he wasn't a fictional character, but some nameless phantom/samurai.
 

cajunator

Banned
Ahegao and Cure Peace.

...



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NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO. Don't sully Peace with this ahegao shit. Please don't ;_;

He has shown you the light!

KyoAni Kanon's too moe. I know KyoAni's art is better from an artistic standpoint, but it doesn't fit the series quite as well...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36752322&postcount=10762
That barely even looks like her!

I mean, she's supposed to look more like this. :)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36752252&postcount=10756


Allison was a pretty good show, but I'd rather not talk about Lillia... too bad it didn't do better, unless everyone just bought Allison and then stopped buying at the worse second half (sadly I doubt it though). :)

Yeah I was talking earlier about how that specific picture right there is a hell of a lot cuter than the 2006 version.

As for allison and Lillia, I ended up buying that series based on the artwork and curiousity. I watched about half of the first set and kind of put it on hold, but I enjoyed that. I'll revisit it once I get caught up on some other things.
 
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