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Uchip

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Wait, so he was transforming his own universe to a different world-line every time he send a d-mail/when he travelled back in time? I was under the impression that he traveled to a different universe (which in turn, was part of a different world-line). Well, that changes everything.

If they were staying true to the MWI, though, wouldn't he be part of a different universe every-time the world-line changed, because of the fact that each universe's wave-function is different and cannot be changed? [Though, I think Steins;Gate uses it's own version of the MWI]

I thought the different world lines
were different universes
at least that's how i interpreted it at the time
 

Narag

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Sailor Moon R 82

This was sort of an unsettling episode between Pluto's existence, the space-time maze, how creepy that Droid was, and all the crazy backgrounds.

Sailor Moon R 83

Infodump episode but handled so much better than 44. Nice to get some answers about
Crystal Tokyo and Chibi-Usa. I mean the daughter thing was crystal (hyuk) clear but still handled well.
Black Moon history was pretty damn stylish.

G Gundam 29

Interesting, back to the older episode format of introduction framing the events of the episode and Domon's Gundam appearing out of nowhere to throwdown. Giving Sai Saici his own episode of focus where he's not inept was a great choice. He's much more likeable when he's given an opportunity to act his age. Soundtrack choices in this episode were a bit different than usual too using this song apparently sung by Rain and Domon and giving a theme for Sai Saici its own time to shine. This episode was a real highlight of the series thus far as it did a great job of capturing the optimism the show is embracing, had Sai Saici do a bit of growing up while showing an episode light on Domon can still succeed, and while I might be reading into it a bit, it seems he learned something from his fight with the Bolt Gundam so many episodes ago.

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Demon Lord Dante 2

Ugh.
 

Noirulus

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No,
he was definitely only switching threads each time, not erasing the ones he was previously on.

I thought the different world lines
were different universes
at least that's how i interpreted it at the time

In that case
There should've been two Okabe's when he went to Steins;Gate, unless Kurisu's machine really did only move back his "consciousness". I didn't get the impression that she did that from the visual novel, but you're probably right Miri.
 

iavi

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In that case
There should've been two Okabe's when he went to Steins;Gate, unless Kurisu's machine really did only move back his "consciousness". I didn't get the impression that she did that from the visual novel, but you're probably right Miri.

Ah, so the VN does give a different impression? Ahhhhhhhh! You're making me want to just go ahead with the current patch, haha. I just might. But, yeah, that's definitely how the show said it via
Suzuha's info-dump
 

Uchip

Banned
In that case
There should've been two Okabe's when he went to Steins;Gate, unless Kurisu's machine really did only move back his "consciousness". I didn't get the impression that she did that from the visual novel, but you're probably right Miri.

the headphone thing only moved
the data in his mind right? its just that he had the ability to recall the memory (the reading steiner), so hes not actually having two bodies, but a brain combined from two separate times or something

@ Miri, theres no way it would
leave a braindead okabe, since its making a copy, not moving it
 

Noirulus

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Ah, so the VN does give a different impression? Ahhhhhhhh! You're making me want to just go ahead with the current patch, haha. I just might.

I dunno, I might not have paid attention properly, but
when she was fixing the time machine, she didn't mention anything about how she re-worked it.
. But I probably missed something because that's honestly too big of a plot-hole for them to make (Not that Nitroplus isn't familiar with huge, gaping plot holes)


the headphone thing only moved
the data in his mind right? its just that he had the ability to recall the memory (the reading steiner), so hes not actually having two bodies, but a brain combined from two separate times or something

yeah, it
only copied his data. I'm talking about when he used an actual time machine to move to a different world-line, though
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I like Mahjong.

In terms of Chinese/Asian games I would have to say: Chinese Chess > Big 2 > Mahjong > Go
 
Daily Live of Nichibros: Bros to the end

Dat dumb Ringo always getting hit on! Dat frankfurter skit! Dat girl in the mirror!
Dat :firehawk troll ending!

I would pay good money to see the High School Girls are Funky Movie. And sunrise best not be trolling about a second season. My heart couldn't take it. ;_;
 

Instro

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Hakugei: Legend of the Moby Dick 23

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The women in this series really know how to use their wiles. The girls hanging out with Captain Ahab's group have the entire crew wrapped around their fingers, meanwhile all the women in the federation army seem to be having sex with the president to increase their rank and standing. The show is heading into its home stretch now, just a few episode left, I'm looking forward to how they close out some of these story lines particularly Dew's. His development as a character has been rather impressive; he has certainly changed quite a bit since the show started. I think its shame they didn't develop or give a bit more backstory on a number of characters within the show, the show has been rather spotty in that regard. When they have given us character backstory its been quite well written and interesting, like Dew or Murato. Even Barba has had some neat backstory scenes. Meanwhile other characters have been largely ignored, so while they are cool characters I've been left wanting to know a bit more about them. Moby Dick himself has been mostly behind the scenes in the show, although there have been some hints as to what it actually is. I suspect I will be getting that revelation in the coming episodes.

I'm a bit surprised at how complex(relatively speaking) the narrative turned out to be considering how the show started out. It seemed like it would be a rather straightforward romp of "whale-hunting" and such, but they've introduced more elements and themes over the course of the anime than I would have ever expected. Although I have to admit Shiro's cosmic energy powers are a bit silly.
 
Wait, so he was transforming his own universe to a different world-line every time he send a d-mail/when he travelled back in time? I was under the impression that he traveled to a different universe (which in turn, was part of a different world-line). Well, that changes everything.

If they were staying true to the MWI, though, wouldn't he be part of a different universe every-time the world-line changed, because of the fact that each universe's wave-function is different and cannot be changed? [Though, I think Steins;Gate uses it's own version of the MWI]

Yes and no. In the sense that the world line shifts, he is in a different universe than he previously witnessed. But remember, he is always bound to the same world line, so from his perspective it is always the same universe. If you think of the many worlds interpretation as a fork, what Okabe is doing is traveling back to the point where the handle diverges into tines of the fork. The handle of the fork is always the same, the tines are different. The many worlds interpretation states that your universe is always the same, you just travel along different paths diverging from the same origin. There are infinite universes but you can only inhabit yours, that's why there can only be one Okabe in his own universe. The universe from your perspective is like an infinite number of forks diverging from forks, they are all the same universe of which there are an infinite number but you can only inhabit one.
 

zeroshiki

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I like Mahjong.

In terms of Chinese/Asian games I would have to say: Chinese Chess > Big 2 > Mahjong > Go

Mahjong sucks. I'd take Go over Mahjong any day.

Sakura Taisen taught me how to play Hanafuda. We should totally do that. We can even recreate the Summer Wars scene.

Big 2 > *.

I will fight all of you to the death in it.

Does Yahoo Games or something have it? I should play and kick all of your asses in it.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Shit we're doing this aren't we?

We can actually play both Big 2 and Mahjong on http://www.viwawa.com

A few of us played Mahjong and Big 2 on this a few months back. Good times.
 
Fate/Zero 2:

Well, if Kara no Kyoukai is any indication, there must always be one psychotic serial killer type in every Nasuverse story. The final Master is revealed and the story is now beginning. There is still just a bit of exposition they needed to cover before the war begins I guess, and this episode wraps it up before starting to have some action right at the episode's end.

I really like this show's OP.
 

Jintor

Member
Its a semi-spoiler but not by much unless you're really anal about this stuff. The anime never gets into it, so you're free to ignore it as alternate reality.

Fair enough. I'm actually kind of curious, but I've been assured for my sanity I should watch the anime first.
 

Noirulus

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Yes and no. In the sense that the world line shifts, he is in a different universe than he previously witnessed. But remember, he is always bound to the same world line, so from his perspective it is always the same universe. If you think of the many worlds interpretation as a fork, what Okabe is doing is traveling back to the point where the handle diverges into tines of the fork. The handle of the fork is always the same, the tines are different. The many worlds interpretation states that your universe is always the same, you just travel along different paths diverging from the same origin. There are infinite universes but you can only inhabit yours, that's why there can only be one Okabe in his own universe. The universe from your perspective is like an infinite number of forks diverging from forks, they are all the same universe of which there are an infinite number but you can only inhabit one.

Huh, so they
did alter the MWI? Normally it doesn't make much sense for the universe's properties to adjust and obey an individual's point-of-view.
 

Uchip

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Huh, so they
did alter the MWI? Normally it doesn't make much sense for the universe's properties to adjust and obey an individual's point-of-view.

Is it really?
pretty sure that was the whole point of the divergence meter. Theyre not travelling to different times in one universe, its measured in a decimal representing a different realities of an infinite number (more than it can display)
 

Noirulus

Member
Is it really?
pretty sure that was the whole point of the divergence meter. Theyre not travelling to different times in one universe, its measured in a decimal representing a different realities of an infinite number (more than it can display)

I meant outside of Steins;Gate.
Works fine within the confines of their world. :)
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Isn't that the fat Go player from Hikaru no Go?
 
Fate/Zero 3:

OMG SABER IN A SUIT AS WHATSHERFACE'S KNIGHT YURI SUBTEXT

Well, I know what I9 was talking about now. Also, I see now why Saber somehow always inexplicably makes it into the finals of International Saimoe (and always proceeds to lose in the first round). She's the most unbelievably moe representation of King Arthur I've ever seen, but she's no match for other moes in the finals.

Actually, these 3 episodes have actually been mostly exposition and setup. Nothing has actually happened just yet. For some reason I'm completely enjoying myself though, there's a right way to do exposition and setup and there's a wrong way. This show is an example of doing it the right way. For an example of doing it the wrong way, see Boring Space Pirates.
 

cajunator

Banned
Fate/Zero 3:

OMG SABER IN A SUIT AS WHATSHERFACE'S KNIGHT YURI SUBTEXT

Well, I know what I9 was talking about now.

Actually, these 3 episodes have actually been mostly exposition and setup. Nothing has actually happened just yet. For some reason I'm completely enjoying myself though, there's a right way to do exposition and setup and there's a wrong way. This show is an example of doing it the right way. For an example of doing it the wrong way, see Boring Space Pirates.

Its ok to be wrong sometimes.
 

Jex

Member
As far as I'm concerned, noitaminA isn't back until we get season 2 of Wandering Son.
And Usagi Drop.

I feel that such a move would be quite unlikely. Then again, announcing a season 2 of Moyashimon totally came out of left-field, so what do I know?

Either way, I'm not particularly interested in more sequels. I'd like them to keep making shows that aren't sequels to existing works. Of course, that includes the caveat that these 'original' shows should not be otaku-focused works.
 

Thoraxes

Member
Fate/Zero 3:

OMG SABER IN A SUIT AS WHATSHERFACE'S KNIGHT YURI SUBTEXT

Well, I know what I9 was talking about now. Also, I see now why Saber somehow always inexplicably makes it into the finals of International Saimoe (and always proceeds to lose in the first round). She's the most unbelievably moe representation of King Arthur I've ever seen, but she's no match for other moes in the finals.

Actually, these 3 episodes have actually been mostly exposition and setup. Nothing has actually happened just yet. For some reason I'm completely enjoying myself though, there's a right way to do exposition and setup and there's a wrong way. This show is an example of doing it the right way. For an example of doing it the wrong way, see Boring Space Pirates.
Exactly right. So much has happened in those three episodes, and past the first (of which the exposition is really needed to set up the entire show's rules) none of it really felt drawn out to me.
 

Jex

Member
Yes, because it actually makes them money.

Soredemo was one of their few shows where they put some effort into consistently animating it, so I can only imagine how much money they lost when it totally bombed.

In the end, I don't know if that really matters. Overall, it doesn't appear that they spend that much money on their shows and so the few that go on to make silly amounts of money presumably counter-balance the ones that don't make any.
Otaku can't appreciate a SHAFT show without either excessive and tasteless fanservice or widefaces.

Well, Soredemo does feature fanservice and widefaces, so I don't know what they're complaining about!
 
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