OricWindstar
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Wish more people would follow this mantra rather than try and figure out an equation to tell if reviews are legitimate or not.
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Star Fox Zero & Guard - Review Thread
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Storm Chamber
Banned
Eek!
TRIGGERED
It's hard to say that though.
It's a full priced game which makes it rather expensive. I'd rather a demo be released (unless there is one?) to try before laying down that money for a game you're not sure of.
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Deleted member 126221
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Heh, as someone with next to no expendable money these days, I can't disagree with the fact this game could've been cheaper. But that's something separate from the game itself though in my opinion. A good game's a good game, just like a good movie's a good movie no matter if you paid $20 bucks to see it in a fancy theater or streamed it on Netflix.
If fact, I think we could either see it as "the game should've been cheaper considering the content" or "the game should've had more stuff to justify the price" (which is in part why Starfox Guard is included). I'd go with the former personally.
Yeah, but I don't want to discredit reviews either. There's a value in reading a lot of them to figure out where you might stand, since it is a $60 dollar purchase. There's also good and bad reviews that are pretty poorly written and don't seem to have a lot of good analysis behind them. However, why waste the time complaining about a specific review when you can go read a wide diverse range of reviews and get a good idea of where you'll fall? And even then you might end up with a different feeling than you'd expect.
We get these threads and people wonder, "how in the world could anyone dislike this game!" and then a lot of those people go on to be detractors of the game in the future. I remember being this way when I was younger, especially with Twilight Princess. Embarassing, for sure. That was probably the turning point, for me.
TheDinoman
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I never considered Kid Icarus Uprising a pure rail-shooter, in a sense.
The thing is, only 1/3 of the game is on-rails, which is during the air battles. The other 2/3 is on-foot where the game plays like a third person action game. Almost all of the bosses are fought there and even the game's multiplayer modes are completely based on its mechanics.
The thing is, only 1/3 of the game is on-rails, which is during the air battles. The other 2/3 is on-foot where the game plays like a third person action game. Almost all of the bosses are fought there and even the game's multiplayer modes are completely based on its mechanics.
If the game were longer it'd ruin your ability to memorize it. The entire point of these games isn't your first run or your tenth run, it's your seventieth run where you're finally hitting everything absolutely perfectly with a sense of Zen-like emptiness. Your reflexes do all the work as your brain goes silent and there's nothing but HIT+4 HIT+7 HIT+5.
A Star Fox game long enough that you can't beat it in one sitting makes that impossible.
OricWindstar
Member
I'm not saying people are dumb for reading reviews or wanting a demo. More that they try and explain which ones are valid seemingly based on what they want to be hearing.
Agree, 100%.
The next big one is going to be the third port of Rez over the years, which is pretty telling.
Prevolition
Member
I'm surprised that Guard is generally getting better scores than Zero. It doesn't look fun at all to me, whereas Zero is what I want in a Star Fox game.
Ocarina_117
Banned
Isn't this very unprofessional. I mean it's his job to review the game is it not? Quite childish to throw your hands up and refuse to do it.
Candescence
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Okay, that's a more reasonable explanation, fair enough. I think it might have been better if they had actually gone for the more 'episodic' approach Miyamoto hinted at back when the game was first revealed. That being said, aside from aiming indepedent from where you're moving your ship (which is already what this game does) I honestly struggle to think of what interesting things other rail shooters do that would actually not really be suited so much for Star Fox. I mean, I loved Kid Icarus Uprising, but its on-rails sections were actually the lesser portion of the game and were hyper-linear to a fault, the real meat was the ground combat.
Honestly, there is merit to the idea of just having Star Fox decouple from the on-rail thing and be entirely a space shooter - Star Fox 2 would've done well with that had it been released, though people loathed Command even thought I thought it was actually pretty fun. A non-rails Star Fox that really committed to the idea probably fill the void that Rogue Squadron 2 left.
That being said, I'd totally take another Assault with redone ground controls. It was way better than people give it credit for, its multiplayer was incredible.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
There is also the possibility to sell a game for less than 60$ if you can beat it 7n 3 hours. Just sayin
DriftingSpirit
Member
I'm going to scream.As expected
mrmickfran
Member
I'm hyped for Zero, but... xDAs expected
all reviews mention motion controls......can they not be turned off? I thought you could
but I knew that feature alone was going to murder some scores. The whole second screen ordeal kills any game for me on the WiiU when forced to look at the pad for actual game play and not information. I still want this game though.....its fucking Star Fox
but I knew that feature alone was going to murder some scores. The whole second screen ordeal kills any game for me on the WiiU when forced to look at the pad for actual game play and not information. I still want this game though.....its fucking Star Fox
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Not saying I agree with Polygon but "Yeah the controls suck but after a couple of hours and replaying earlier levels a bunch I got used to then" doesn't sound that great either
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
It's Arthur Gies, the undisputed worst person working in the games industry. This is mild for him.
As expected
oh god xd
Milly Osworth
Member
Not looking good, disappointing and worrisome for a major Nintendo IP.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
As expected
Would be 10xs better when color splash come out
Spring-Loaded
Member
It's weird that this is still a "I hope I enjoy this," kind of title despite being so close to 64 in a lot of ways.
Galaxy Force II is awful so the original star fox must be the worst game ever for that to be accurate
Candescence
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I always did wonder what the hell happened to Shadows of Lylat. Should've figured it was cancelled, so not surprised.
As expected
This is the most accurate post in this thread.
Wow I agree this is bullshit. It is totally unprofessional that he did that and it is even more unprofessional and a dick move that he actually made an article about it.
What a pos journalist. It is his job, it is childish and I truly doubt the game is so bad as he says from the reviews. He is basically doing some stunt to call the game a piece of crap and that is not only unprofessional, but disrespectful and not cool at all.
Don't like it don't play it, don't review it, this stunt is bullshit.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Mixed reviews. Im gonna wait for gaf impressions.
OricWindstar
Member
Hahahaha, I think I'm going to like this game, but that's amazing.As expected
As expected
Fuuuuuuuuck! It's things like this that makes me feel like throwing my Wii U to the window. I like that lil console but honestly cannot wait till the Wii U era is over.
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Deleted member 126221
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Oh come on now.
You can just switch the display to the tv.
People only reviewing games they like would make the concept of a review kinda pointless.
As expected
This should have Devil's Third on it.
I'm not even sure Gies is the worst guy on Polygon. Ben Kuchera is still there!
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
That's not even a controversial opinion.
Nah, Kuchera is terrible too, but they guy that called us all idiots for rejecting Microsofts DRM is the worst.
Hmm...well I paid full retail for Sin and Punishment 2 even though it only lasted me 6 hours, and I didn't regret it.
On the other hand SP2 had a much better pedigree/reception than this game. I think I'll wait a little while and give Star Fox Zero a rent.
Arthur Gies is nowhere near the worst person working in the games industry. The worst he has done is write some stupid shit, which is peanuts compared to fiascoes like what happened at Crytek UK.
On Gies Review:
Some people will probably react to the game like this. Some of his points are spot on with my impressions. At the same time, the game is maybe 3 hours long at most. Just beat the game.
I don't think him not beating it invalidates his opinion, but it sure does read funny.
Some people will probably react to the game like this. Some of his points are spot on with my impressions. At the same time, the game is maybe 3 hours long at most. Just beat the game.
I don't think him not beating it invalidates his opinion, but it sure does read funny.
Kuchera was like the whole spearhead of that movement! I think Sony Too is directly attributable to him.
Damn, nice try
Got to love the Internet.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Really, I seem to remember a tweet from Gies that is referenced here a lot. Either way they are both awful and today they again reminded us just how terrible Polygon is.