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Star Fox Zero & Guard - Review Thread
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If Sin & Punishment 2 only lasted you six hours, you haven't played it enough. Go beat Isa & Kachi mode on Hard right now.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Whether or not you agree with the lack of a score, he definitely played and reviewed it.
Except I'm not joking. Galaxy Force 2 isn't fun.
Doesn't even have any boss battles to attempt to redeem it.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
It doesn't invalidate his opinion for what it is: a reflection of an incomplete experience from someone who clearly had no interest in attempting to learn the controls.
I saw this as one who's totally fine with people bagging on the game--just play the damn thing first. That's your job, as a reviewer.
Yes most game sequels, even the ones from other companies have to have similarities with their predecessors. But IMO I think Nintendo abuses of that a bit too much sometimes. It was cool the first times but not anymore, because sometimes, I cannot tell if they are doing it on purpose or they are simply running out of ideas, especially with the latest Mario games such as Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, Mario Party 10, Mario and Luigi Paper Jam on 3DS, NSMBU and so on : /
Exactly, more ambitious so it can stand on their own and not rely too much on the fact that this is pretty much SF 64.5. Maybe it had to do also with those rumors about this game going into certain phases of development hell? But yeah it seems they run out of time and had to ship the game as it was.
True. The worst thing here is that according to reviews, it seems Zero didn't even turned out to be as good as 64 : /
Since this is Nintendo we're we talking, something of the caliber of Splatoon in terms of new experiences. It shows that when Nintendo proposes it, they can still deliver truly amazing (and succesful) brand new experiences.
dampflokfreund
Banned
The lack of quality and creativity in Nintendo's recent first party games is very worrisome. I hope its just because the Wii U sells bad....
Waluigilicious
Member
Review written by my good friend over at N Europe: (remove the space)
http://www.n- europe.com/reviews/star-fox-zero
http://www.n- europe.com/reviews/star-fox-zero
SlasherJPC
Banned
It's a 2 to 3 hour game one time through. I don't see how this is any kind of excuse even if he didn't like it, not to finish it.
Adam Tyner
Member
I always grouse and groan whenever a film critic does that (c'mon, the movie you hate is maybe two hours long, and you're already this far into it), but for a game, I do get it. If you're halfway through a game and absolutely hate it -- especially for something as fundamental as its control scheme -- I don't see any issue with bailing out. The reviewer should make that clear, and I would say it's not fair to assign a score based on that incomplete experience. I'm not a fan of Arthur Gies' writing, but I don't see a problem with what he did here. I wish he had made it clear how much time he sank into it, though, since it sounds like SFZ isn't much longer than watching a movie anyway.
chalkitdown1
Member
He's a reviews editor, which is absolutely nothing to do with journalism whatsoever.
I too love the asterisk website
The control scheme isn't fundamental. It is within your skillset as a human being to adapt to it.
lol, what are you talking about? stop the hyperbole pls
ok, Mario Tennis and the AC game really are bad.
Splatoon and Mario Maker are Nintendo at its best though.
Edit: Almost forgot Yoshi's Wooly World. What a gem
Should at least have some online modes. Too bad. What did polygon score, it read the headline and loled hard. Is the campaign really 3 hours? Judging from the reviews Star Fox Guard seems like its better than the main game lol
Is the campaign really 3 hours? Already passed due to Canadian price point anyways
Is the campaign really 3 hours? Already passed due to Canadian price point anyways
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
The problem with Gies's "review" (he actually says it's not a review) is that it's the ONLY one on the site. They had a month to find someone who could finish a 3 hour game and give it a proper review and they didn't even bother.
Why?
Oh, but they know. Any negative point is "right up my alley".
Dude, what?
That may be one of the most "out of touch" comments GB has made so far...
Neoleo2143
Member
He's poking fun at people ignoring the criticism, problem is, little of the criticism is detailed enough to give a damn about it.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
All these flavors and you choose ****.
As expected
This is amazing.
Ben "Fart in the wind(google it)" Kuchera was more annoying to me during that period.
Whoever runs that twitter handle, lololol
Why is eggman on the team?
dampflokfreund
Banned
Yeah, no. There are more examples of lackluster first party games than Mario Tennis and AC, and you know that.
For me, Splatoon and Mario Maker are no way Nintendo as it best though. Nintendo as its best are games like Metroid Prime, Mario Sunshine or Zelda Wind Waker. But I'm willing to see Splatoon is a creative and good IP by Nintendo, so you've got atleast one point.
Mario Maker is just a level editor though. Nothing special. Yoshi is just another 2D sidescroller.
It's a shame that Nintendo didn't get it. The Starfox formula was already dated by the time when the Gamecube was coming out and they did the right thing to move away from he old cheap gameplay of the 64 and SNES games and introduced worthy improvments like third-person shooter action and even making it a Zelda clone was a better choice.
Now it's 2016 and they need to adapt it into this generation. Yeah it's a Platinum game so it's bound to be ugly (just look at W101) but what about immersive QTE gameplay? There's even no open world! And they even didn't jump on the microtransactions train, pretty much unforgivable in this day and age.
I hope this game crashes and burns and Nintendo will learn to never make a game like Starfox 64 or SNES again. There aren't many ways to improve the anicent rail shooter genre anyway.
Now it's 2016 and they need to adapt it into this generation. Yeah it's a Platinum game so it's bound to be ugly (just look at W101) but what about immersive QTE gameplay? There's even no open world! And they even didn't jump on the microtransactions train, pretty much unforgivable in this day and age.
I hope this game crashes and burns and Nintendo will learn to never make a game like Starfox 64 or SNES again. There aren't many ways to improve the anicent rail shooter genre anyway.
ok, so I was mostly kidding but how could the old starfox be actually improved? All I read so far are some vague ideas. Like "Make the levels more interesting", just how?
I think the issues lie less with the overall quality and more with the perception that Ninty's efforts are lacking in creativity and and originality.
mrmickfran
Member
Can we revive the Sonic Twitter thread? Or just create a new one? It feels like I'm missing out on a lot of good shit.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Splatoon is debatable (I think it's top shelf) but saying Mario Maker is "just a level editor" is asinine.
Neoleo2143
Member
Probably, but the presentation of it is so damn unprofessional that it drags down the reputation of the site. Whether they have any reasonable sense of organization is not something a reader should ask.
That being said the review I'm looking forward to is the completionist review because he's played the game the most and tend to be more thorough about specific qualities of the game.
This is post SmallFox Command when Small Egg switched sides and joined Small Fox.
The creppy knuckles figure in the walker. I'm dying.
*salute*
JetSetRadio
Banned
So they basically pulled the plug after super mario maker, damn this company is icecold.
I understand, but the thing is he did not pass it over to someone else and he didn't do his job because even if he didn't like it the review would speak as to why in an official way.
He could have just made the review instead of the BS article which is why I call him out. That is a bs excuse and crappy journalism. So yeah people only reviewing games they like would make the concept pointless, but this shit Gies did is even worse.
I almost see what they're talking about. Almost. It's certainly felt like Nintendo is putting less effort into recent titles. Mario Tennis and amiibo Festival are obvious points. But then you consider that another Kirby game is on the way, which will probably be another great Kirby title, but they're generally low effort. Then you have Star Fox, which has left me with a sour taste because despite trying new gameplay mechanics, the story is, IMO, a cop out. Look at Mario Party 10, there's no single player mode to speak of.
So no, I don't agree, as Nintendo still has put out stellar first gen games this gen. But they've been few, and (very) recently, there's been very low output.
As expected
lmao
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Do people even care how they view games critically??? I always thought they were more for entertainment value. Hell, I'm surprised they even reviewed this game, they seem lazy in that regard.
But isn't Hero a reboot that retcons Command?
Neoleo2143
Member
I think part of my disappointment is that reviewers had a full month with the game which is honestly ridiculous. That's more than enough time to get more detailed reviews out than we have now.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Their arguably biggest game is still hitting the Wii U likely this year but they're not going to put everything they have into a system with no hope for growth.
Except it is, GFII is still an arcade shooter, so it's not for all. But it's a more polished shooter than the first star fox. Anyway I'm curious, why in your opinion GF2 isn't fun?