Lucas-accepted maybe. Approved is far too strong in this context. There's no doubt whatsoever that the canonicity of the Disney sequels is higher than the EU, which has *always* been a separate canon.
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Star Wars Episode 7 - Thread of Pre-Production
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Lucas-accepted maybe. Approved is far too strong in this context. There's no doubt whatsoever that the canonicity of the Disney sequels is higher than the EU, which has *always* been a separate canon.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Looking at the actions Disney has taken already, and the direction they've already announced they're going in, I'd be surprised if the Prequel Trilogy gets referenced in any way during Episode VII.
They're not going to try to retcon it or anything - they just won't bring it up.
The Star Wars Holiday Special happened. Chronologically-speaking, that has more reason to be referenced in the sequels. Doesn't mean it should be.
Only if you believe in G-canon.
Count Dookkake
Member
I get your angle, but we will still see locations, vehicles and droids from the PT.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Weren't most of the PT vehicles devolved versions of the OT's vehicles?
Count Dookkake
Member
Some were.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I doubt that. I bet we're going to get "futuristic" (ish, I guess, long time ago & all that) versions of OT vehicles. Considering this thing is probably going to be set like, a hundred years after Episode I, I doubt too much of the vehicles/droids will be used.
Count Dookkake
Member
Closer to 50-60 years, but I get what you are saying.
I just don't agree. I mean we will get "futuristic" versions of some things, but some will be more or less the same, and some will be from the PT.
I just don't agree. I mean we will get "futuristic" versions of some things, but some will be more or less the same, and some will be from the PT.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It's definitely possible, you're right. It just seems to me that Disney's attitude regarding anything prequel/expanded universe is "we're just gonna pretend that never happened, and move forward."
Jables Swan
Member
It doesn't even have to be a matter of pretending they never happened I guess but they don't HAVE to tie them in. So much time has passed between the PT and the new movies, so why would they even need to mention anything? I would prefer them just to give us something new. Which I reckon will happen.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
I wonder if we're going to see Jedis acting like they do in the OT or whether they will be like the PT.
I think one of the best things those Plinkett reviews pointed out is that lightsabers were over-used in the prequel trilogy. I think seeing a Jedi pull out his lightsaber should be made to be a big fucking deal again.
I think one of the best things those Plinkett reviews pointed out is that lightsabers were over-used in the prequel trilogy. I think seeing a Jedi pull out his lightsaber should be made to be a big fucking deal again.
Have the lightsaber battles be as much a battle of wills (psychology and such) as whipping laser swords around. The PT trivialized lightsaber combat.
I really liked the way "Jedi-ism" (I have no idea what the official term is) and Force-users in general were referred to and talked about in the OT. It was almost referred to in the same way that Paganism was during the dawn of Christianty, as some form of silly black magic that only stubborn crazy people believed in. With characters referring to it as an "ancient religion" and whats-his-face referring to Vader's devotion to the Force as "sad".
If anything, I would think that by the time of Return of the Jedi rolled around, people would actually be frightened by the shear existence of the Jedi, and wouldn't exactly view them as peace-keepers.
So along the lines of what you said, if a non-Jedi sees a Lightsaber ignite, they would probably shit their pants.
Anticitizen One
Banned
No that was just episode 3. In the first 2 movies there vehicles unlike anything in the OT like Darth Tyrannus's solar sailor, the droid control ships, the naboo vehicles, and e Jedi star fighter.
I'm also hoping they don't do Jedi battles like the pt. I'm hoping its only a few Jedi in this trilogy and there more grounded and don't have crazy super powers like the ability to glide through coruscant and surf on lava
Ah shit...I'm not sure how I feel about that. There are many different roles in SW movies though, so who knows?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Nic Cage was interested in Superman, too.
Everyone's learned from that mistake.
Everyone's learned from that mistake.
Secret Fawful
Member
Quinto and Pine's responses made me laugh.
LOL he's not going to be in the movie. I'm just fishing.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Well, I mean, even with the prequels, we didn't have THAT MANY big name actors. So hopefully, the new ones won't be filled with stars.
I'm totally down for Nick Cage cheesing it up in Star Wars 7: Darth Face Off
Count Dookkake
Member
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BattleMonkey
Member
There is no proof that Disney is distancing itself from the prequels. Folks jumped on that because of the cancellation of Clone Wars, which really was because Hasbro had decided to drop that toy line at the end of last year, which was most of the shows revenue. They are having no problem going around and canning OT related projects as well from what we have seen. As it's been said, Disney is closing down any internal projects that have nothing to do with the new movie series. It's not just prequel stuff.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
So they're finally adding Jar Jar to the official Disney Princesses lineup. About time.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
the fact they're focusing on the new trilogy at the expense of everything else means they're NOT distancing themselves from the prequels, even though you admit they're distancing themselves from the prequels and other stuff, too?
I don't get the argument you're making. They're distancing themselves from the prequels.
I wonder how many people would die of joy if the version of Jedi they show is the theatrical version and the announcement was a new release of the Original Trilogy theatrical editions.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Or they'll officially be announcing Star Wars land. Which is why Lucas is making the announcement at Disneyland. Come on, son.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Ben Kingsley, Ryan Reynolds, Emma Stone, Nic Cage, can be in the movies. Those other actors don't seem very enthusiastic so fuck um lol
Lucas Land. One of the main attractions will be an editing console in which you can ruin the movies to your heart's content.
Anticitizen One
Banned
They are at Walt Disney World not Disneyland you goof
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I'm with this.
9:45 EST is when Lucas & Iger will speak followed by Star Wars fireworks apparently.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Disneyland is the original theme park in California
Walt Disney World is a huge resort in Florida
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Yes, I am aware. But for the sake of an announcement being made by Disney, both locations serve the same contextual purpose.
There is a new update that says not to expect anything.
http://www.theforce.net/story/front/Lucas_Iger_At_Disney_World_For_Huge_Announcement_151736.asp
Anticitizen One
Banned
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UPDATE #3: A Lucasfilm spokesman just told me that there is nothing he is aware of regarding Mr. Iger and Mr. Lucas at Disney World. In light of that information, it's unlikely that an announcement is coming tonight."
lmao
UPDATE #3: A Lucasfilm spokesman just told me that there is nothing he is aware of regarding Mr. Iger and Mr. Lucas at Disney World. In light of that information, it's unlikely that an announcement is coming tonight."
lmao
Well, if the announcement tonight is indeed for a Star Wars theme park then having it at Disney World most likely means it would be located in Florida rather than California.
Anticitizen One
Banned
I don't think it's for a Star Wars land though. Disney park projects usually take at least 2-3 years in preproduction (called "blue sky" phase) before they finalize the plans and either get the red or greenlight. That's why the big Cars ride didn't open until just this last summer and we haven't even seen a concept for avatar land. Good things take time.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Lucasfilm spokesman declines to spoil the announcement the former owner and current owner are planning on making at 9:45. Therefore, we at TheForce.net are safe in assuming there is no announcement.
BattleMonkey
Member
The point is you keep saying they are distancing themselves from the prequels, yet there is no proof of that. Whatever logic is being used with that thinking also says they are distancing themselves from OT and all Star Wars? So why would they ignore the prequels in the new films? There is no proof of some kind of anti prequel agenda going on.
The only one that matters
Anticitizen One
Banned
Dude give up on the prequels. They sucked. Lucas knows it, we know it, and most importantly Disney knows it. Clone Wars should have never existed in the first place and Disney was smart to cut that off. Enjoy the 5 seasons you got and all the other Prequel related merchandise and move on with your life.