Adam Scott Aukerman
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He's obviously mo-capping an ewok.
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Star Wars Episode 7 - Thread of Pre-Production
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He's obviously mo-capping an ewok.
Been expecting this for quite some time and I am all for it.
Tim the Wiz
Banned
This trilogy is going to be based on a Michael Arndt treatment, right? I doubt him or the Abrams brains-trust have even heard of Thrawn. Hopefully, Kathleen Kennedy takes a page out of the Marvel play book and uses the best of the EU characters/archs in those spin-off movies they keep talking about.
YES PLEASE.
BattleMonkey
Member
Yea they could easily adapt the Thrawn trilogy and change it around to fit the later setting and older cast. They could also change various aspects of it to make it new and unique without just copying the books. While I loved the Thrawn trilogy, I don't think it would make for a proper epic SW trilogy, but think it would work as a good foundation.
Moff
Member
cumberbatch would be awesome, the only downside that he was already in star trek.
but I could easily see him as a jedi, sith, an officer or anything star wars related. I would probably enjoy him as a fallen jedi the most. although spoiler: into darkness
but I could easily see him as a jedi, sith, an officer or anything star wars related. I would probably enjoy him as a fallen jedi the most. although spoiler: into darkness
that would be too close to his star trek role, too
Count Dookkake
Member
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Great, great news. Had been hoping for that since Into the Darkness. If there's anyone JJ should bring over, it's him.
Although I doubt they'd follow the expanded universe, I have to echo the sentiment that he'd be a fantastic Thrawn.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
That's assuming a) the "actual" Lucas outline is worth anything, storywise and b) they feel like adhering to it even if it IS good.
Nobody on the production has contacted him since he handed over his stuff, according to Lucas, so it's entirely possible they aren't using much of his outline, if any. Or maybe they're using a couple stray ideas here and there.
Arndt only got the job to write Episode VII after he turned in a 40-50 page outline for the whole trilogy, correct? I remember that being the story that came out shortly after his announcement. Just based on that alone, I'm inclined to believe whatever this story is, it's more Arndt than Lucas, really. And once Kasdan & Abrams get involved, they're going to leave their mark on it. And I could see Abrams/Arndt looking to cherrypick any already existing ideas Disney owns. They're going to be reinventing/repurposing lots of the Star Wars universe anyway.
That said: It's really, really, REALLY improbable that Expanded Universe characters are going to make the jump
And yeah, the Cumberbatch thing is part of what I was referring to last week. It seems really on the nose, though. Like, REALLY on the nose.
Nobody on the production has contacted him since he handed over his stuff, according to Lucas, so it's entirely possible they aren't using much of his outline, if any. Or maybe they're using a couple stray ideas here and there.
Arndt only got the job to write Episode VII after he turned in a 40-50 page outline for the whole trilogy, correct? I remember that being the story that came out shortly after his announcement. Just based on that alone, I'm inclined to believe whatever this story is, it's more Arndt than Lucas, really. And once Kasdan & Abrams get involved, they're going to leave their mark on it. And I could see Abrams/Arndt looking to cherrypick any already existing ideas Disney owns. They're going to be reinventing/repurposing lots of the Star Wars universe anyway.
That said: It's really, really, REALLY improbable that Expanded Universe characters are going to make the jump
And yeah, the Cumberbatch thing is part of what I was referring to last week. It seems really on the nose, though. Like, REALLY on the nose.
Count Dookkake
Member
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shira
Member
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Possible, maybe even probable. It might also be possible his "outline" wasn't great. or detailed. or anything more than a loose pile of papers with disjointed ideas on them.
Again, I'm not suggesting they're going to start lifting plotlines from Timothy Zahn or whatever. I really don't think that's the case. But i'd give a sideways glance idea that Disney would handcuff themselves to something of Lucas' if it wasn't very well concieved. At which point, I can see Arndt/Kinberg/Kasdan/Abrams filling in their own blanks. And it's not as if Abrams isn't known for looking at what's available and repurposing it. That mmmiiiiiight mean a character or a concept from a pre-existing bit of publishing/merchandising.
It likely doesn't, though. I'm basically Devil's Advocating at this point.
LOL, bring on the whole cast. Chris Pine, Zoe Saladana, Zech Quinto
Fuck that
maybe the empire is coming back. All the empire actors were British after all.
CreepingFear
Member
Star Wars: Son of Tarkin Strike's Back
What if it is Tarkin himself, simply reintarkinated into clone body?
CreepingFear
Member
Enough of people being reincarnated through cloning!
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Tarkin was an interesting character. Even Vader seemed scared of him or at least obedient.
BattleMonkey
Member
Tarkin clone. Do it!
phazedplasma
Member
I just want Wedge to be in it
Tim the Wiz
Banned
Didn't Disney say they want to do a Star Wars film every couple of years forever? Once this trilogy is done, Thrawn and co. might get their chance at being repurposed a la Guardians of the Galaxy.
ryutaro's mama
Member
Thank goodness. I don't want that level of ugly ruining star wars for me.
Future PhaZe
Member
dammit
Cumberbatch/Rhys Meyers Sith combo would be fucking ace.
Cumberbatch/Rhys Meyers Sith combo would be fucking ace.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Sith Lord or bust
Thug Waffle
Member
Tarkin's the only member of the Imperial elite that can give Vader orders outside of the Emperor.
Anticitizen One
Banned
man fuck cumberbatch I want John Noble as the villian so bad
Also, why does it have to be sith?
could be new villian concepts (hopefully)
Also, why does it have to be sith?
could be new villian concepts (hopefully)
Anticitizen One
Banned
Cumberbatch playing as Thrawn would probably be the most perfect casting ever
Could be interesting casting, as others have said I could see them doing Thawn or a Sith of some sort with him, more likely to be a a non-EU character though if it is based off of Lucas scripts.
I thought it was that they wanted to do a film every year during the new trilogy, so we would get two side stories inbetween 7-8 and 8-9. But I haven't kept up with news so I could be very wrong.
I thought it was that they wanted to do a film every year during the new trilogy, so we would get two side stories inbetween 7-8 and 8-9. But I haven't kept up with news so I could be very wrong.
Some bets:
In summary, the whole thing will probably feel strangely familiar to anyone who has consumed Star Wars video games or EU in the last 20 years.
I really hope it will be more than rehashed fan service...i really, really hope so.
- son/daughter of Luke Skywalker will be the new Luke character
- new Han Solo type character will be a converted ex-imperial, like Kyle Katarn from the JEDI KNIGHT series
- there will be a Grand Admiral type character at the helm of the Imperial remnant forces.Probably not Thrawn but similar
- there will be a hunt after some ancient Sith/Jedi artifact or lost secret fleet/ship as the new doomsday device
- doomsday device might have to do with Ba-dam-dish The Emperor as Force Ghost
- there will be a more modern female C3PO droid character that will have witty dialogue with R2D2/C3PO - cause you know: IT RHYMES.
- No reason not to have R2D2 back, let's hope he doesn't have jet packs.
- MillenniumFalcon will be back - with upgrades!
- Before the adventure begins, there will be a sendoff ceremony by the old triumvirate Luke, Han and Leia to hand over the fire to the new trio
- New hero trio will be 1x female, 2x male. Think Obi, Anakin and Leia. A disciplined one, a hot shot and a girl. Let's pray it will not try to emulate TWILIGHT
In summary, the whole thing will probably feel strangely familiar to anyone who has consumed Star Wars video games or EU in the last 20 years.
I really hope it will be more than rehashed fan service...i really, really hope so.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Han Solo is also Ex-imperial. He joined the Imperial academy at a young age and was a tie fighter pilot for like 6 months.
EU stories aren't canon.
Young Han was in the early drafts of Episode III and was on Kashyyyk, so it's possible he could show up in Rebels, but it probably won't have anything to do with the EU "young Imperial" origin.
Thug Waffle
Member
not this shit again.
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Didn't every story arc, new character, backstory, character death, etc have to be approved by Lucas himself?
No. There were things there were off-limits for EU authors, and it changed once each movie came out.
Prior to Ep1 all Vader origin stuff, even relating to the suit, was off-limits. Zahn wanted the Nogri's faces to look like Vader's mask, but Lucas killed that for an example.
The only stuff that's 100% canon is what happens in the movies, and that trumps everything else.
You can call the books "C-Canon" if you like, but that's still not 100% official canon that trumps everything.
Before Episode VII was announced, Lucas said this:
Thug Waffle
Member
^rofl that same quote says no Ep VII.
Most of it, yeah. He got lazy with it at some points, though. iirc, he didn't know
until the book came out and people raged.
Robbler fails to understand that the official Star Wars website canonized much of the EU when the person in charge of maintaining the canon developed the "Holocron". It is known that film canon trumps EU inconsistencies, but that the EU itself cannot be dismissed. For every quote of GL saying the EU doesn't count, there's a quote from some other LucasArts executive or George himself saying it does.
Once Disney starts putting out their Star Wars, we can expect much of the EU to be ret-conned.
Read here and here to see how back-and-forth this whole debacle has been:
Most of it, yeah. He got lazy with it at some points, though. iirc, he didn't know
Chewbacca died
Robbler fails to understand that the official Star Wars website canonized much of the EU when the person in charge of maintaining the canon developed the "Holocron". It is known that film canon trumps EU inconsistencies, but that the EU itself cannot be dismissed. For every quote of GL saying the EU doesn't count, there's a quote from some other LucasArts executive or George himself saying it does.
Once Disney starts putting out their Star Wars, we can expect much of the EU to be ret-conned.
Read here and here to see how back-and-forth this whole debacle has been:
Anticitizen One
Banned
According to that Hidalgo guy who works at Lucasfilm everything is canon unless the movie explicitly says otherwise and even when it does someone comes up with a retcon explanation.
Disney CEO is even quoted as saying they want to take advantage of the thousands of characters from the movies, books, comics, etc.
Lucas lies all the time. He is constantly contradicting himself when it comes to Star Wars. According to him there would "never be an episode 7-9" LMAO did you even read the quote he posted?
Also, it's pretty funny that he disses Dark Empire in that quote when he A)Approved the comic B)Put visual homages and references in the Prequels based on it and C)Has previously said it was one of his favorite EU products
Disney CEO is even quoted as saying they want to take advantage of the thousands of characters from the movies, books, comics, etc.
Robbler said:
Lucas lies all the time. He is constantly contradicting himself when it comes to Star Wars. According to him there would "never be an episode 7-9" LMAO did you even read the quote he posted?
Also, it's pretty funny that he disses Dark Empire in that quote when he A)Approved the comic B)Put visual homages and references in the Prequels based on it and C)Has previously said it was one of his favorite EU products
So if that's the quote you're using to decide that the EU is not canon, then Episode 7 and beyond are also not canon?
That's interesting because the author of that book said he originally wanted to kill off somebody even more meaningful, one of the main trio, but somebody at LucasArts (I guess not Lucas himself) said no, and they gave him a list of characters that were okay to kill off.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
dammit
Cumberbatch/Rhys Meyers Sith combo would be fucking ace.
Except for the part where Meyers is a terrible actor and Cumbergod is a god.
Don't be a dick.
Sweet.
When it's at the director's behest, you tend to do that I think.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I thought Han being former Imperial was more canon than the usual EU... Wasn't it mentioned in that really early Han Solo book trilogy, or in one of the novelizations or something? If so it might imply that it was from Lucas' notes.
Thug Waffle
Member
You're right. That was uncalled for.
lol I would not be surprised if it did go by Lucas and he just forgot. At that point, they were transitioning into where they were about to let just about anything go (Karen Traviss...). I'm not surprised Chewbacca was on that list, though.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
since we are talking about canon(again), is the clone wars TV show G-canon? Considering that a movie was made for it.
BertramCooper
Banned
Cumberbatch will make a spectacular Gungan.
Yes and because some of the stories came from Lucas and his daughter wrote many episodes.