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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]
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FieryBalrog
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The market has grown, but the market for sub-based MMOs is not nearly as healthy as the market for F2Ps.Kosma said:
FieryBalrog
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What WAR community? I was there at WHA at launch (you can go look at the old threads now if you want) and people were jumping over each other to praise the launch and the game... reports from the Beta were "glowing" except for "minor issues with the combat and animations". WAR is one of the reasons I take all MMO betagasms with a grain of salt.BattleMonkey said:
And considering there were no official forums, it was either WHA or the VN boards, so...
Dinosaur Tamer
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FieryBalrog said:
What are you even talking about? I was in the WAR beta for more than 6 mounts and as soon as beta testers were informed the game will definitely release in fall (announcement was in early august IIRC) a lot of testers complained about the game not being ready by a long shot and people started to break the NDA in order to stop friends from pre-ordering the game.
Hell, I personally advised all my friends and guildmates not to buy the game, once I realized they are not going to get rid of the major flaws before launch - even though I have been a pretty dedicated and optimistic tester for the better half of a year.
FieryBalrog
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Dinosaur Tamer said:
The atmosphere and posts on the WAR forums at late beta and launch, obviously.
Anyway, back on topic:
http://www.betacake.net/2011/08/star-wars-old-republic-exclusive.html
Huttball!
MaddenNFL64
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FieryBalrog said:
That sounds crazy. And it's not faction based, so A Sentinel & a Marauder could be on the same team
.I'm digging the passing (30 meters too, good range) aspect, combined with the distance closing abilities put to use. If you have good teammates, you could dominate.
flyinpiranha
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Dechaios said:
Same time I registered but no dice. Sadface am I.
HarryDemeanor
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That sounds really awesome.FieryBalrog said:
Hawk269
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Billychu said:
From when I was helping testing Rift, the version the public beta testers played was about a month old or so. The internal beta testers are always testing the newest version. The older version gets pushed out to the public beta testers to find any bugs the internal testers did not find a month or so earlier.
The dev's of MMO's always are testing the versions of the beta that are 1-2 months newer than what the public tests..at least the ones i have been involved with. From what one dev told me is:
We basically test a beta version internally to fix any bugs/issues. We then begin work on the next version. When ready, the first version is pushed out for public testing, while we are internally testing a newer version. Feedback/fixes from the public version are analyzed and fixes put into place that are added to the current internal testing.
He basically said it is just a cycle, when version 1.0 is pushed out to public, they are on 1.5, when 1.5 is pushed out they internally are on 2.0 etc. He also explained like a game going gold which is usually 30-45 days out. when they feel the beta version is good enough, they push it out for testing while at the same time the next version internally is being tested.
Hawk269
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Measley said:
Only if the Content is there and they do a hell of a job at patching the game to ensure bugs are being fixed, balance issues, weopon/armor issues etc. The lifeblood of mmo's is the content and the developer support.
BioWare has said they plan to add a ton of planets and mroe things to do, the question is how much content will be available day 1 and how long would it take for the average player and advanced mmo players to hit the level cap and the end-game content.
The game will fail if support and content are lackluster. Who is going to pay 15-20 bucks a month for a game that has issues and them not being resolved and lack of content?
For me, I do beleive that BioWare will deliver and that they will have the content to back up the game, which for anyone whol plays MMo's knows that content is paramount to a successful and well supported game.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Valru said:
MaddenNFL64
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Anyone see those short vids on alterswtor? That guy... *sigh* "oh, looks like he answered correctly so he got to talk" "oh you get social points when you choose the correct answer".
What the fuck.
What the fuck.
MaddenNFL64
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Giolon said:
They have, we know how it works. it's a random roll, and the winner of the roll talks, there is no "correct answer".
BattleMonkey
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So the PVP has lot of WAR influence? That was the best part of that game, too bad it failed at most everything else.
bloodforge
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Every time someone posts saying they got an invite I check my email only to be disappointed
Why do you hate me Bioware?
Why do you hate me Bioware?
So, according to that latest Q&A on cakeblog, dude states the majority (75%) of the quest content is shared with your faction, with only a fraction of that (25%) being truly unique to your class. This seems to contrast with the "8 unique stories" I kept hearing from everybody when referring to the game's content.
Which one is right?
Which one is right?
BattleMonkey
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falastini said:
Every class has a unique story which is the class quests and unique companions and side quests they offer, but obviously lot of the game is going to have generic quests for everyone to do .... go kill 10x sith douchenozzles. Theres a unique story for each class, but not completely unique classes for everyone, it's still going to be similar to all other MMOs where lot of content is going to be made for everyone, especially when they add content to the game with future patches as it would be incredibly hard to add completely unique content for all 8 classes.
I would imagine they will not be updating character class stories until they do very big paid for expansion packs, with content updates being done as just general audience stuff.
Door2Dawn said:
Yes it is, but there is a very vocal diehard WoW fanbase who will do things like pay $25 for a super special awesome purple flying lion mount. These people buy shit like this and it offsets the revenue loss from the massive number of subscribers that are bailing out.
WoW best days are behind it and its all downhill from here in terms of subscriber numbers. That doesn't mean though that the franchise will stop printing money, because Activision has figured out how to milk hardcore fans for every dime they can get out of them.
BattleMonkey
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Azih said:
No, it's not really an alignment type of thing, kind of more like a D&D alignment but within the same category.
You basically will still be a "good" guy Jedi, but your choices will push you into a more nicer/subtle/calm character, or a more brash and tough character. Think more like Mass Effect where Sheppard doesn't become evil or such from his choices.... he just is a dick. Like D&D alignments, Lawful Good, Chaotic Good, Neutral Good. Any changes though will be really up to the writing of Bioware and how far they let your character "change"
Ok. That's what I assumed anyways.
It's just when game content was questioned, there was a lot of "you can level up several characters with their own unique content" being thrown around.
On that note, can you speed through or skip any cut-scenes? If previous Bioware games have taught me anything, when playing through the game a second time, I can't stand having to listen to all the dialogue again. Especially with their "illusion of choice"... where different answers result in the same conclusions anyways.
It's just when game content was questioned, there was a lot of "you can level up several characters with their own unique content" being thrown around.
On that note, can you speed through or skip any cut-scenes? If previous Bioware games have taught me anything, when playing through the game a second time, I can't stand having to listen to all the dialogue again. Especially with their "illusion of choice"... where different answers result in the same conclusions anyways.
BattleMonkey
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falastini said:
Yea well unlike most other MMO's, there is unique content and actual story for each class outside of the usual handful of class quests put in for "training", but obviously lot of stuff is going to be generic despite many of our hopes. Also each class has unique set of companions with thier own dialogues and some unique quests from those as well, so it should add a bit more re playability for doing alt characters. Those expecting a complete new experience like a whole new KOTOR game for each class are going to be upset.
It was mentioned before that you can skip through dialogue, I believe it was said that the game pretty much assumes you choose the default dialogue choices based on your current "alignment"
BattleMonkey
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Billychu said:I though everything but flashpoints and other group content was unique per class until you neared level 50
No, they had talked about it quite a while ago how it was going to have generic content along side the unique stuff. Obviously many hoped or expected there to be more unique content per class than what we are going to get. Expectations a bit too high perhaps, too much hype?
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